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| Anyone have any experience with this breeding? Are they easy to train? Any success in the barrel pen? |
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Location: Kansas | some....no actually most....will tell you they are broncs. Some can be, but once you get them past that stage, the ones I've ridden were smart, athletic and versatile |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I had a few and they were just to smart for their own good. |
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| Easy to train, but don't pick on them. Once they know it, they want to be left alone about it, that's where I think people get the idea they are broncy, they pick and pick on them. How close is Joe Hancock on the pedigree? |
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| Easy to train, but don't pick on them. Once they know it, they want to be left alone about it, that's where I think people get the idea they are broncy, they pick and pick on them. How close is Joe Hancock on the pedigree?
I was looking at a few horses for sale, noticed hancock breeding. I currently don't own any horses with hancock breeding |
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| When people are refering to Hancock, it rarely means the same thing. Joe Hancock was a 1923 model and is not even going to be within the first 5 generations of a horse. There are hancock breeders that try really hard to stick to that line, and that isn't because he was trash. The problem is that lots of line breeders get hung up on the name or color and not the quality. So just because a horse has Hancock in the name doesn't mean he is going to act like all the othe "hancocks" that people have touched. |
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Location: Kansas | Whiteboy - 2016-01-22 9:39 AM When people are refering to Hancock, it rarely means the same thing. Joe Hancock was a 1923 model and is not even going to be within the first 5 generations of a horse. There are hancock breeders that try really hard to stick to that line, and that isn't because he was trash. The problem is that lots of line breeders get hung up on the name or color and not the quality. So just because a horse has Hancock in the name doesn't mean he is going to act like all the othe "hancocks" that people have touched.
This, this statement is very true. |
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Location: SE KS | I currently own this filly, I realize Hancock is far back, as I think there are only a few left with him close up.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/highs+blu+goldseeker
She is laid back, is 14 hh & there isn't a horse on our place that stands their ground against her, and it has been that way since she was 2 yo. Gentle, stubborn, stands with her head over the guys shoulders while target practicing in the pasture, has had 30 days on her, can practice catching the dummy off of her. I can't wait to start riding her this spring!!! I do hope she grows a little taller!!! |
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Location: West Texas | I have never seen one with much Hancock that I really liked. We did have one mare that turned out nice, but she was still a hancock. They are tough bodied, but often time bullheaded. I just have no use for them in the breeding, personally.
Edited by Tdove 2016-01-22 9:50 AM
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Yes people get hung up on the name.
But I owned one. Only Hancock I've ever owned. And he became a dirty bucker real quick. I didn't pick at him. He did a spooked buck one time. Knew he could launch me. And he did it every ride from that day forward. He left soon after. |
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Location: West Texas | As implied earlier, nobody has Hancock close up. The problem is that most of the Hancock bred horses and breeders were, and still are, line breeders. I don't know why anyone would want to perpetuate Hancock characteristics so close.
As with any breeding, there are "some" great ones. Some of the rancher folks that really value, above all, a tough horse, really like them. I just think as a whole they don't bring much to the table. I don't mind a little hancock blood mixed in, at all. But I sure don't go looking for it.
I am not running down "any" nice horse that is Hancock bred. If they have proved their merit, then I could care less how its bred. I think hancock genetics could have been useful, but the linebreeders, really messed that up. |
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Location: Oklahoma | We like our filly from Cross Spur. They are gritty, smart, and don't forget. I prefer horses descended from the Joe Hancock line. |
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| As T DOVE said, they are really tough. I think thats what makes them popular in my area. A friend of mine has several that are all either full or half siblings. He ropes on all of them and uses them pretty hard. They are athletic, strong and have a lot of run. I wanted one of his for myself as a barrel prospect but I didnt get the deal done. You cant pussyfoot around too much on them. Not that they are broncy, they are just a "horsemans" type of horse. Great for ropers, ranchers and such. |
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Location: OH | Cowans built a lot of their program with daughters of John Red who was a Joe Hancock grandson---result of this was the great PC Bronsin and many many more. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | They are like any line-DFC etc depends on WHAT the Hancock is. There are lines more prominent to produce buckers and some that are kid gentle. I like the Red Man lines. Have had really good luck with them. My issue with Hancock is often you find the name Hancock, all over the papers. A bit much to me especially for a horse that is known to be a rank. |
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| Well in everything there are exceptions to every rule....these horses are said to be some hellva mounts "if" and "when" you get them broke. An old timer once told me they started out breeding these horse to be professional bucking stock, how true this i am not sure.....However, my experience has not been to far off from that statement. Tough, hard headed, broncs is what I have dealt with. I tell people I have a list of horses I will never own and I run from..... The list is as follows...
Impressive
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Palomino (anything)
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| Also, a lot of people really liked Fire Water Flit and don't realize that Joe Hancock is in the fourth generation of his pedigree. |
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| okkritter - 2016-01-22 10:34 AM Also, a lot of people really liked Fire Water Flit and don't realize that Joe Hancock is in the fourth generation of his pedigree.
Sun Frost has him in his 5th or 6th generation. |
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Location: Missouri | Warriors Mom - 2016-01-22 10:26 AM Well in everything there are exceptions to every rule....these horses are said to be some hellva mounts "if" and "when" you get them broke. An old timer once told me they started out breeding these horse to be professional bucking stock, how true this i am not sure.....However, my experience has not been to far off from that statement. Tough, hard headed, broncs is what I have dealt with. I tell people I have a list of horses I will never own and I run from..... The list is as follows... Impressive Hancock Palomino (anything)
I would add Sonny Dee Bar. 
and, any old foundation. I'm just not cowgirl enough.
My friend that has started thousands of colts says that if you can get by the Hancocks when they're young, you can get along fine with them. But, that's a big IF. lol!
My personal opinion is that I don't ride like those horses were bred to be rode. I do not need a tough-hearted, hard-headed horse that can last on the range all day, every day.
I want something kind and in-my-pocket, that I can't spoil with a treat or two, that won't buck when I haven't ridden him down because I'm running kids to 50 different basketball/baseball games...
But, I know people LOVE them. They just don't fit my lifestyle.
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Location: OH | Driftwood on Hancock was one of the first "Magic Crosses" for rodeo competition. |
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