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| So I see ERA guys are competing at PRCA rodeos, but apparently don't get the money if they place, and are not in the standings. Does anyone know when the court date is? |
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Location: The edge of no where | I think the judge sent them to mediation to work it out. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | I heard rumor the ones who placed at the NFR still haven't received their winnings.... 
I'm still on the fence about who's right and who's wrong in this instance but I know it isn't cheap to go to Vegas.... Expenses add up... |
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Location: That part of Texas | MS2011 - 2016-01-23 9:05 PM I think the judge sent them to mediation to work it out. +1 -- It's true that the judge sent the parties to mediation. As for court dates, I'm sure they won't docket the case (put it on a schedule to be reviewed again) until that is completed.
As an FYI, in smaller civil cases that I have been ordered into mediation on, it's typically a 1-2 month process at times to get this done. You have to match up attorney schedules to the mediator's schedule and to the client's schedules. So you have to find a day that all attorneys (or the one's with full authority to enter into an agreement), the clients (i.e., these rodeo contestants and PRCA reps), and the mediator can do it on. From that alone, I'm sure everybody understands why I say it may take them 2-3 months on just getting a date that everybody can be there for. Most mediations also can take 2-3 tries before everything is settled so multiply the above scenerio by that and it's easy to say that it may be summertime before we see any more court schedulings in this matter.
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| I was thinking PRCA and ERA came to an agreement with the mediation and that's why ERA guys are able to compete at PRCA rodeos now, (but the money is being held until after the court date).
As to NFR money being held that would be hard to believe since the NFR was based on 2015. |
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | run2run - 2016-01-25 6:16 PM I was thinking PRCA and ERA came to an agreement with the mediation and that's why ERA guys are able to compete at PRCA rodeos now, (but the money is being held until after the court date). As to NFR money being held that would be hard to believe since the NFR was based on 2015.
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| I know at Ft Worth, they have notices posted to ERA Contestants telling them they have to sign an additional waiver and if they don't then they can't compete. It further states it's the contestants job to get the form from the secretary and not the secretary's job to give it to them. |
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Location: That part of Texas | run2run - 2016-01-25 6:16 PM I was thinking PRCA and ERA came to an agreement with the mediation and that's why ERA guys are able to compete at PRCA rodeos now, (but the money is being held until after the court date). As to NFR money being held that would be hard to believe since the NFR was based on 2015.
I haven't seen the actual court paperwork, but I do believe the ability to compete is based upon a temporary restraining order issued by the court maintaining the status quo for now (i.e., allowing competition as beforehand) until a final ruling can be reached either through mediation or battling it out in the court. I don't know if this restraining order was agreed to by the parties or entered by the court on the judge's own power. This order has been place since the suit was initially filed or shortly thereafter so I don't believe it's a product of any formal mediation. At best, it may be something worked out between the parties at the preliminary court hearing in December but my gut says it was ordered by the judge. It's typical for the court to enter such orders maintaining the status quo and trying to keep things operating on a temporary basis as it was before the issues at the heart of the suit arose. |
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| well if the PRCA wins the NFR will have lots of new faces having looked ta the ERA's current roster. |
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| run2run - 2016-01-26 5:43 AM
What is the waiver for?
No idea since it didn't apply to us. I just saw the notice was all. |
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| RodeoCowgirl4u - 2016-01-26 3:47 PM
well if the PRCA wins the NFR will have lots of new faces having looked ta the ERA's current roster.
Unless they start to "jump ship"
Has anyone seen an ERA bull riding roster yet? Now I see the PRCA scheduled a Champions Challenge the same day as the American. From what I understand, any Cowboys that are under contract with the Champions Challenge that don't compete in the first Challenge, can't compete in any of the other Challenges. Can anyone shed some light on that?
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| run2run - 2016-01-27 8:51 AM
RodeoCowgirl4u - 2016-01-26 3:47 PM
well if the PRCA wins the NFR will have lots of new faces having looked ta the ERA's current roster.
Unless they start to "jump ship"
Has anyone seen an ERA bull riding roster yet? Now I see the PRCA scheduled a Champions Challenge the same day as the American. From what I understand, any Cowboys that are under contract with the Champions Challenge that don't compete in the first Challenge, can't compete in any of the other Challenges. Can anyone shed some light on that?
No idea as far as them not being able to compete in any other Champions Challenge events....but I do know that all of them signed a contract with The American saying they would be there. SO.....they will not be at the Champions Challenge that day. EEEEK!
I didn't know they were withholding winnings...this is the first time I have heard about it. This is all kind of crazy...I am ready for it all to be over with and I am not even competing in anything until the summer and have no dog in the fight. haha! BUT, I do side with the PRCA on this deal/ on the other hand I think its a shame that The American ended up being on the same day as the PRCA Champions Challenge. Last I heard that PRCA rodeo has always fallen on those dates for years now.....and The American shouldn't have scheduled on that day to avoid conflict.
No bull-riding roster yet.
RFD-TV's The American with Tammy Perkins Jaxon.
January 22 at 6:00pm ·
?#?BREAKING?: All of the top cowboys in the world have signed a commitment to compete on Feb. 28 at RFD-TV's The American, presented by Polaris RANGER ATV! For the third year, 100 percent of the best athletes in rodeo and bull riding will ride into AT&T Stadium on Feb. 28. For more, visit americanrodeo.com ?#?AMERICANbyRANGER?
Bareback:
1. Steven Peebles
2. Kaycee Feild
3. Seth Hardwick *Out due to surgery
4. Tim O’Connell
5. Austin Foss
6. Tanner Aus
7. Will Lowe
8. Jake Brown
9. Evan Jayne
10. Clint Laye
Header / Heeler:
1. Aaron Tsinigine / 2. Ryan Motes
2. Luke Brown / 6. Jake Long
3. Derrick Begay / 3. Clay O’Brien Cooper
4. Trevor Brazile / 5. Patrick Smith
5. Coleman Proctor / 7. Kory Koontz
6. Colby Lovell / 1. Kollin VonAhn
7. JoJo Lemond / 4. Junior Nogueira
8. Clay Tryan / 8. Jade Corkill
9. Erich Rogers / 9. Cory Petska
10. Chad Masters / 10. Travis Graves
Steer Wrestling:
1. Hunter Cure
2. Dakota Eldridge
3. KC Jones
4. Ty Erickson
5. Clayton Hass
6. Tanner Milan
7. Luke Branquinho
8. Seth Brockman
9. Baylor Roche
10. Casey Martin
Saddle Bronc Riding
1. Jacobs Crawley
2. Wade Sundell
3. Rusty Wright
4. CoBurn Bradshaw
5. Cody DeMoss
6. Isaac Diaz
7. Taos Muncy
8. Cort Scheer
9. Jake Wright
10. Heith DeMoss
Tie-Down Roping
1. Caleb Smidt
2. Trevor Brazile
3. Matt Shiozawa
4. Tuf Cooper
5. Monty Lewis
6. Marty Yates
7. Hunter Herrin
8. Tyson Durfey
9. Sterling Smith
10. Timber Moore
Barrel Racing:
1. Callie DuPerier
2. Lisa Lockhart
3. Sarah Rose McDonald
4. Michele McLeod
5. Cassidy Kruse
6. Fallon Taylor
7. Taylor Jacob
8. Jackie Ganter
9. Sherry Cervi
10. Nancy Hunter
Bull Riding:
1. JB Mauney
2. Kaique Pacheco
3. Joao Ricardo Vieira
4. Fabiano Vieira
5. Matt Triplett
6. Cooper Davis
7. J.W. Harris
8. Tanner Byrne
9. Stetson Lawrence
10. Nathan Schaper
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| MOTIVATED - 2016-01-27 10:43 AM
run2run - 2016-01-27 8:51 AM
RodeoCowgirl4u - 2016-01-26 3:47 PM
well if the PRCA wins the NFR will have lots of new faces having looked ta the ERA's current roster.
Unless they start to "jump ship"
Has anyone seen an ERA bull riding roster yet? Now I see the PRCA scheduled a Champions Challenge the same day as the American. From what I understand, any Cowboys that are under contract with the Champions Challenge that don't compete in the first Challenge, can't compete in any of the other Challenges. Can anyone shed some light on that?
No idea as far as them not being able to compete in any other Champions Challenge events....but I do know that all of them signed a contract with The American saying they would be there. SO.....they will not be at the Champions Challenge that day. EEEEK!
I didn't know they were withholding winnings...this is the first time I have heard about it. This is all kind of crazy...I am ready for it all to be over with and I am not even competing in anything until the summer and have no dog in the fight. haha! BUT, I do side with the PRCA on this deal/ on the other hand I think its a shame that The American ended up being on the same day as the PRCA Champions Challenge. Last I heard that PRCA rodeo has always fallen on those dates for years now.....and The American shouldn't have scheduled on that day to avoid conflict.
No bull-riding roster yet.
RFD-TV's The American with Tammy Perkins Jaxon.
January 22 at 6:00pm ·
?#?BREAKING?: All of the top cowboys in the world have signed a commitment to compete on Feb. 28 at RFD-TV's The American, presented by Polaris RANGER ATV! For the third year, 100 percent of the best athletes in rodeo and bull riding will ride into AT&T Stadium on Feb. 28. For more, visit americanrodeo.com ?#?AMERICANbyRANGER?
Bareback:
1. Steven Peebles
2. Kaycee Feild
3. Seth Hardwick *Out due to surgery
4. Tim O’Connell
5. Austin Foss
6. Tanner Aus
7. Will Lowe
8. Jake Brown
9. Evan Jayne
10. Clint Laye
Header / Heeler:
1. Aaron Tsinigine / 2. Ryan Motes
2. Luke Brown / 6. Jake Long
3. Derrick Begay / 3. Clay O’Brien Cooper
4. Trevor Brazile / 5. Patrick Smith
5. Coleman Proctor / 7. Kory Koontz
6. Colby Lovell / 1. Kollin VonAhn
7. JoJo Lemond / 4. Junior Nogueira
8. Clay Tryan / 8. Jade Corkill
9. Erich Rogers / 9. Cory Petska
10. Chad Masters / 10. Travis Graves
Steer Wrestling:
1. Hunter Cure
2. Dakota Eldridge
3. KC Jones
4. Ty Erickson
5. Clayton Hass
6. Tanner Milan
7. Luke Branquinho
8. Seth Brockman
9. Baylor Roche
10. Casey Martin
Saddle Bronc Riding
1. Jacobs Crawley
2. Wade Sundell
3. Rusty Wright
4. CoBurn Bradshaw
5. Cody DeMoss
6. Isaac Diaz
7. Taos Muncy
8. Cort Scheer
9. Jake Wright
10. Heith DeMoss
Tie-Down Roping
1. Caleb Smidt
2. Trevor Brazile
3. Matt Shiozawa
4. Tuf Cooper
5. Monty Lewis
6. Marty Yates
7. Hunter Herrin
8. Tyson Durfey
9. Sterling Smith
10. Timber Moore
Barrel Racing:
1. Callie DuPerier
2. Lisa Lockhart
3. Sarah Rose McDonald
4. Michele McLeod
5. Cassidy Kruse
6. Fallon Taylor
7. Taylor Jacob
8. Jackie Ganter
9. Sherry Cervi
10. Nancy Hunter
Bull Riding:
1. JB Mauney
2. Kaique Pacheco
3. Joao Ricardo Vieira
4. Fabiano Vieira
5. Matt Triplett
6. Cooper Davis
7. J.W. Harris
8. Tanner Byrne
9. Stetson Lawrence
10. Nathan Schaper
Did the PBR vote at the PBR finals to adopt the same bylaw as PRCA about not letting a bull rider compete in PBR if they are board member, have financial interest etc in another association? |
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| RodeoCowgirl4u - 2016-01-26 3:47 PM
well if the PRCA wins the NFR will have lots of new faces having looked ta the ERA's current roster.
They (the PRCA) are only trying to exclude the owners of the ERA, not everyone on the ERA roster is an owner of this association. So if the PRCA was to win the court case we would still some of these competitors just not those that formed the ERA. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-01-27 11:40 AM RodeoCowgirl4u - 2016-01-26 3:47 PM well if the PRCA wins the NFR will have lots of new faces having looked ta the ERA's current roster. They (the PRCA ) are only trying to exclude the owners of the ERA, not everyone on the ERA roster is an owner of this association. So if the PRCA was to win the court case we would still some of these competitors just not those that formed the ERA.
This is going to take quite a few out of the events......
The Elite Rodeo Association is owned by the sport's top 55 athletes, and 42 of those are world champs. |
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| NJJ - 2016-01-27 12:32 PM miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-01-27 11:40 AM RodeoCowgirl4u - 2016-01-26 3:47 PM well if the PRCA wins the NFR will have lots of new faces having looked ta the ERA's current roster. They (the PRCA ) are only trying to exclude the owners of the ERA, not everyone on the ERA roster is an owner of this association. So if the PRCA was to win the court case we would still some of these competitors just not those that formed the ERA.
The Elite Rodeo Association is owned by the sport's top 55 athletes, and 42 of those are world champs.
I said we would still see some of these competitors not a lot of them. I understand there a quite a few that own the ERA. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-01-27 12:53 PM NJJ - 2016-01-27 12:32 PM miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-01-27 11:40 AM RodeoCowgirl4u - 2016-01-26 3:47 PM well if the PRCA wins the NFR will have lots of new faces having looked ta the ERA's current roster. They (the PRCA ) are only trying to exclude the owners of the ERA, not everyone on the ERA roster is an owner of this association. So if the PRCA was to win the court case we would still some of these competitors just not those that formed the ERA.
The Elite Rodeo Association is owned by the sport's top 55 athletes, and 42 of those are world champs. I said we would still see some of these competitors not a lot of them. I understand there a quite a few that own the ERA.
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| NJJ - 2016-01-27 12:55 PM
miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-01-27 12:53 PM NJJ - 2016-01-27 12:32 PM miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-01-27 11:40 AM RodeoCowgirl4u - 2016-01-26 3:47 PM well if the PRCA wins the NFR will have lots of new faces having looked ta the ERA's current roster. They (the PRCA ) are only trying to exclude the owners of the ERA, not everyone on the ERA roster is an owner of this association. So if the PRCA was to win the court case we would still some of these competitors just not those that formed the ERA.
The Elite Rodeo Association is owned by the sport's top 55 athletes, and 42 of those are world champs. I said we would still see some of these competitors not a lot of them. I understand there a quite a few that own the ERA.
This was not intended in any way other than to clear up the wording of my original comment. Thank you. |
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