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Location: TN | Can anyone tell me about Frenchmans Boogie's offspring? What are they like and how are they doing in competition? |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Call AQHA. I believe Frenchemans Boogie (two o's) is PSSM1 N/P1. Confirm with them and do your research about this disorder. Make sure that's what you want to get because it's a 50% shot that the foal will get it. |
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Location: TN | OregonBR - 2016-01-23 4:37 PM Call AQHA. I believe Frenchemans Boogie (two o's) is PSSM1 N/P1. Confirm with them and do your research about this disorder. Make sure that's what you want to get because it's a 50% shot that the foal will get it.
Yikes! That's good to know. Thanks! I'll check into it. |
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| or are talking about frenchmans boggie. two different horses. |
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Location: TN | No I mean boogie. It's so confusing how similar their names are. |
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| daisycake123 - 2016-01-23 8:18 PM
or are talking about frenchmans boggie. two different horses.
I believe that is Frenchmans Bogie
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Location: TN | daisycake123 - 2016-01-24 7:22 AM is there a list of stallions that are pssm1 np1
Not that I can find. I'll call AQHA tomorrow to see. Is there anything else anyone knows about him or his babies? The breeder seems to produce a lot of foals to sell each year so I thought someone might know something about how they're doing. |
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Location: So. California | daisycake123 - 2016-01-24 5:22 AM is there a list of stallions that are pssm1 np1
A couple of websites are trying to gather the information in one place. Not complete, but at least it is a start.
http://bridgeequine.com/
https://www.allbreedgenetics.com/
Otherwise you have to call AQHA/APHA for the results (if tested)
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| KatieMac88 - 2016-01-24 11:06 AM
daisycake123 - 2016-01-24 7:22 AM is there a list of stallions that are pssm1 np1
Not that I can find. I'll call AQHA tomorrow to see. Is there anything else anyone knows about him or his babies? The breeder seems to produce a lot of foals to sell each year so I thought someone might know something about how they're doing.
Lance Graves rode one of the offspring at the Palomino World Show and the horse was world champion. I know that most people think their world show is a joke but Lance Graves does not ride junk. The horse stands about 60 miles from where I live. I really do not know much else. |
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Location: So. California | There is always embryo testing...
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Location: TN | streakysox - 2016-01-24 1:52 PM KatieMac88 - 2016-01-24 11:06 AM daisycake123 - 2016-01-24 7:22 AM is there a list of stallions that are pssm1 np1 Not that I can find. I'll call AQHA tomorrow to see. Is there anything else anyone knows about him or his babies? The breeder seems to produce a lot of foals to sell each year so I thought someone might know something about how they're doing. Lance Graves rode one of the offspring at the Palomino World Show and the horse was world champion. I know that most people think their world show is a joke but Lance Graves does not ride junk. The horse stands about 60 miles from where I live. I really do not know much else.
Ok thank you! I also saw that a son of Boogie won the Texas State High School Finals in 2015. I've e-mailed the breeder to try to find out more info on the 5 panel test, but no response yet. |
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KatieMac88 - 2016-01-24 1:36 PM Ok thank you! I also saw that a son of Boogie won the Texas State High School Finals in 2015. I've e-mailed the breeder to try to find out more info on the 5 panel test, but no response yet.
You can search this board for PSSM or PSSM1 there is a very large thread that has a ton of information.
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=433695&posts=287&highlight=pssm&highlightmode=1#M7237352
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http://www.goodwinquarterhorses.com/Understanding-The-5-panel--And-Other-Equine-Genetics.html
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Location: las vegas nv | I owned Frenchmans Boogie for his first nine years ,He has produced MANY top 1D horses ,I still own one mare by him she is a super nice mare ,runs 1D ,also I bred the palomino horse that won thePalomino world ,He was Boogie's first baby that I got when I bred Boogie once as a two year old. They are consistenty straight legged ,pretty faced ,and big butted ! Very sellable babies ,great dispositions ,I've broke and run several that have ended up top 1D horses ,I had to sell Frenchmans Boogie when both my parents were dying ,I couldnt manage all the mares and dealing with my family's care ,however he now stands at rattlesnake ranch in lufkin texas ,with Allison Lively ,who is doing a great job with him .I have never heard of him testing positive for anything ,so I would say that is not true or a different horse .
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Location: TN | kelly griffith - 2016-01-24 5:14 PM I owned Frenchmans Boogie for his first nine years ,He has produced MANY top 1D horses ,I still own one mare by him she is a super nice mare ,runs 1D ,also I bred the palomino horse that won thePalomino world ,He was Boogie's first baby that I got when I bred Boogie once as a two year old. They are consistenty straight legged ,pretty faced ,and big butted ! Very sellable babies ,great dispositions ,I've broke and run several that have ended up top 1D horses ,I had to sell Frenchmans Boogie when both my parents were dying ,I couldnt manage all the mares and dealing with my family's care ,however he now stands at rattlesnake ranch in lufkin texas ,with Allison Lively ,who is doing a great job with him .I have never heard of him testing positive for anything ,so I would say that is not true or a different horse .
That's wonderful! He is gorgeous and I'm interested in some of the foals that Allison has on her website, but I haven't heard much about it him so I wanted to check out what everyone else knew. I'm so glad you commented since you know him so well. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/frenchmans+bogie This horse is n/n on his 5 panel.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/frenchmans+boogie This horse is n/n on 4 of the 5. But he is n/p1 for PSSM1. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | kelly griffith - 2016-01-24 3:14 PM
I owned Frenchmans Boogie for his first nine years ,He has produced MANY top 1D horses ,I still own one mare by him she is a super nice mare ,runs 1D ,also I bred the palomino horse that won thePalomino world ,He was Boogie's first baby that I got when I bred Boogie once as a two year old. They are consistenty straight legged ,pretty faced ,and big butted ! Very sellable babies ,great dispositions ,I've broke and run several that have ended up top 1D horses ,I had to sell Frenchmans Boogie when both my parents were dying ,I couldnt manage all the mares and dealing with my family's care ,however he now stands at rattlesnake ranch in lufkin texas ,with Allison Lively ,who is doing a great job with him .I have never heard of him testing positive for anything ,so I would say that is not true or a different horse .
AQHA has begun to require testing of all stallions. He has been tested. I recommend everyone call AQHA to get the test results of any stallion they are considering breeding to. Or ask the stallion owner for a copy of the results. Some of the dominant disorders that are being tested for will have long term, many times serious consequences/effects. Some horses have died or had to be euthanized because the symptoms are too serious for them to live good lives. |
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Location: TN | If I was looking at a weanling instead of breeding I wonder if the 5 panel test could be done prior to purchase to see if the foal inherited the gene or not... just a thought. I definitely don't want one with PSSM, but I'm still interested in his babies. If I couldn't do the test though I probably wouldn't buy one... too risky. I find it strange that he would be bred and have so many babies (according to AQHA records 149) if he has PSSM.
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Location: las vegas nv | I stand corrected ,I researched the PSSM1 and it alone is not a fatal type of problem ,more of a discomfort in the muscles ,however if it is combined with the PSSM 2 which he is negative for ,I guess it can be worse . I would buy a Boogie baby anyday even with this information but it is something to think about for sure.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | KatieMac88 - 2016-01-24 3:55 PM
If I was looking at a weanling instead of breeding I wonder if the 5 panel test could be done prior to purchase to see if the foal inherited the gene or not... just a thought. I definitely don't want one with PSSM, but I'm still interested in his babies. If I couldn't do the test though I probably wouldn't buy one... too risky. I find it strange that he would be bred and have so many babies (according to AQHA records 149) if he has PSSM.
If you bought a foal already on the ground, you can get the 5 panel done and know what it's status is. If it's N/N, it would never have a problem.
As far as the rest of the comments, I don't know. That's for each person to answer for themselves. I couldn't stand a stallion that has any problems like these dominant disorders. PSSM1, HYPP and MH are serious dominant disorders. They can be horrible for the owners of the horses affected by them. They can spend thousands in vet bills to find the cause of the problems they having with the horse. Even after they find out what is causing the issues, the horse requires strict management and STILL might not be able to function. I have not only tested my stallion per AQHA rules. But I've gone the next step by testing all my broodmares. They are all N/N on their 5 panel. I don't want to cause anyone the heartbreak of having an animal that will be high maintenance and/or fail to do the job it's suppose to do, IF I can prevent it simply by testing. So I did. But other people think their horse is so valuable to the world in spite of the difficulties it can cause, they continue to breed that animal. They have that freedom in this country. But the buyer needs to be aware of the possibilities. The buyer can refuse to buy or breed to that animal. That's all I'm trying to do here. Make people aware.
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