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Simons Stalker
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Location: Grandfield, OK | Well it seems that the veterinarian involved and the owner of the Can't Bully This Guy will not make this matter right. We have never been able to receive papers on the colt and the owner of CBTG has not released a breeders certificate so we can even have papers on the colt. The veterinarian involved ignored our letters and requests for almost a year. He turned it over to his insurance company and now we are forced to deal with it through the courts. They offered us $2,500. That doesn't even pay the vet expenses on having the embryo transferred. I have tried several times to negotiate with these people to no avail. Just be careful who you deal with this year during breeding season with your horses. |
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| Yikes! I have been wondering how this turned out. |
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  That's White "Man" to You
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| That really ticks me off. I had my doubts this would workout from the beginning. What was the vets name? |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | That is real BS..
I love it when people say they only use a vet for dentistry in case something happens they can go after the vet. I've never known one person that got paid from a vet for a wrong doing.
So sorry this happened to you.
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Good Ole Boys just Fine with Me
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Location: SE Missouri | OH THIS SUCKS!!!!! How can they get away with that and not at the very least get the paperwork square to register the foal. WOW.. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Can AQHA do anything due to it being both shipped semen and embryo transfer to help you get your papers? |
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 Namesless in BHW
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | WOW! A person would think with this being their screw up they would at the very least get your paperwork in order so you can register that foal. This just stinks. |
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| I've wondered how this turned out. I'm so sorry! |
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| TwistedK - 2016-01-26 2:34 PM
Can AQHA do anything due to it being both shipped semen and embryo transfer to help you get your papers?
I'm thinking AQHA won't step in. A breeders certificate pretty much states that the owner of the mare w/ the foal has paid all their fees and the papers can be released to them.
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Simons Stalker
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Location: Grandfield, OK | Dr. Leonard. He stands Can't Bully this Guy. It is in West Plains, Missouri. |
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Simons Stalker
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Location: Grandfield, OK | AQHA says all they can do is suspend the stallion owners membership due to the fact that she didn't put Coconut on the breeders report. She can not be forced to release breeding certificate. |
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BHW's Simon Cowell
Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | Well how is she going to file stud reports on her stud if she is suspended? I guess they will just transfer him into someone else's name? Sure wouldn't want to breed to that stud now.
Edited by ksjackofalltrades 2016-01-26 4:12 PM
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Location: Texas | WTH is wrong with people? Why don't they take responsibility and take action to make it right? |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | I was just wondering about this yesterday. Thank's for the update. I cant believe they are not working with you to right their wrongs on this catastrophic mix-up. They should be bending over backwards to fix this and cover all expences on the purchase of the embryo, the transfere, the care, and getting that colt registered!! Unbelievable. |
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| cowboytravel - 2016-01-26 4:05 PM
AQHA says all they can do is suspend the stallion owners membership due to the fact that she didn't put Coconut on the breeders report. She can not be forced to release breeding certificate.
I would ask them to suspend her membership, simply for the sake of this whole ordeal. Then anything she owns would have to be transferred to register any offspring. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Sounds like business as usual for an insurance company. They typically try to get you to settle for as little as possible. If you got an attorney, they would probably cover your losses.
Strange they won't just get you the dang paperwork, tho! Seems like any reputable breeder would at least follow through with that. |
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That's White "Man" to You
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| Nita - 2016-01-26 4:29 PM Sounds like business as usual for an insurance company. They typically try to get you to settle for as little as possible. If you got an attorney, they would probably cover your losses. Strange they won't just get you the dang paperwork, tho! Seems like any reputable breeder would at least follow through with that.
I think reputable is the key here! lol |
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The Advice Guru
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| cowboytravel - 2016-01-26 4:05 PM
AQHA says all they can do is suspend the stallion owners membership due to the fact that she didn't put Coconut on the breeders report. She can not be forced to release breeding certificate.
Do this.
Also lodge a complaint to the veterinary medical association for fraud.
He ai'd your mare told you he used the proper semen, took your money and now you are sol, it is fraud.
I would get nasty
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The Advice Guru
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| cyount2009 - 2016-01-26 4:28 PM
cowboytravel - 2016-01-26 4:05 PM
AQHA says all they can do is suspend the stallion owners membership due to the fact that she didn't put Coconut on the breeders report. She can not be forced to release breeding certificate.
I would ask them to suspend her membership, simply for the sake of this whole ordeal. Then anything she owns would have to be transferred to register any offspring.
My understanding is if an Aqha membership is suspended they won't even allow transfers. |
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