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 Hawty & Nawty
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| I saw the email and in my opinion, he bended the truth to fit his agenda and I've lost all my respect for the man. I'd never thought I'd say this, because in the last election cycle I was all "Dump Trump" but now I say I hope Trump wipes the floor with these politicians. Ben Carson should do something about it.
And the flash in the pan that has been flashing since08 has not hurt Trump's numbers one bit. | |
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| Yep, he did-politics as usual, do what you gotta do, weather the storm then hope people forget about it. Cruz put out a misleading and false email regarding Carson
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Yes he cheated and he's now a last resort vote for me. I have no use for dirty politicians and he showed his true colors. Hillary and Bernie are the only worse options in my eyes. | |
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Location: North Texas | I've not seen the email. However, per News Reports I have seen CNN started that rumor. | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | foundation horse - 2016-02-04 8:40 AM I've not seen the email. However, per News Reports I have seen CNN started that rumor.
Don't care. He knew what he was doing. | |
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Hawty & Nawty
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-02-05 6:41 AM foundation horse - 2016-02-04 8:40 AM I've not seen the email. However, per News Reports I have seen CNN started that rumor. Don't care. He knew what he was doing.
That's it. He knew what the email implied. And when ABC confronted him, he went on the attack. NOPE. | |
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Location: Florida.. | Yes he did.. CNN just stated carson was going to fl... he was to a prayer breakfast . then cruz asap put out a tweet Carson was withdrawing..and he also put violation things in mail.. but the fact he did this is wrong on so many levels.. hes a weasel... there is dirty ways and there is dirty ways.. this is one of those Hillary ways..
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Location: West Texas | From what I can tell, the facts of the case show Cruz and team did nothing wrong. He was even so upstanding as to apologize to Carson, which I don't think he needed to do. | |
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I just read the headlines
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| Tdove - 2016-02-04 9:05 AM
From what I can tell, the facts of the case show Cruz and team did nothing wrong. He was even so upstanding as to apologize to Carson, which I don't think he needed to do.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | GLP - 2016-02-04 9:09 AM Tdove - 2016-02-04 9:05 AM From what I can tell, the facts of the case show Cruz and team did nothing wrong. He was even so upstanding as to apologize to Carson, which I don't think he needed to do. I agree.
^^^^ THIS.......of course it WAS on the internet so it MUST be true.....Cruz isn't my first choice but really folks, one of my favorites, Carson, wasn't going to win in Iowa and your favorite Trump was NOT going to get his voters anyway!
Do you REALLY know if or how many of Carson supporters swapped support....NO.....
IMO, you will see a big shake-up in the next month (after NH & SC) due to those dropping from the race. Huckabee, Rand Paul and Santorium have already dropped. Santorium has thrown his support behind Rubio. I don't think Trump will pick up support from the Paul camp but he "might" get a few of the Huckabee supporters.....
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | NJJ - 2016-02-04 9:16 AM GLP - 2016-02-04 9:09 AM Tdove - 2016-02-04 9:05 AM From what I can tell, the facts of the case show Cruz and team did nothing wrong. He was even so upstanding as to apologize to Carson, which I don't think he needed to do. I agree.
Do you REALLY know if or how many of Carson supporters swapped support....NO.....
IMO, you will see a big shake-up in the next month (after NH & SC) due to those dropping from the race. Huckabee, Rand Paul and Santorium have already dropped. Santorium has thrown his support behind Rubio. I don't think Trump will pick up support from the Paul camp but he "might" get a few of the Huckabee supporters.....
I don't think it had anything to do with Trump losing, but that's not the point. | |
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Hawty & Nawty
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-02-05 7:44 AM NJJ - 2016-02-04 9:16 AM GLP - 2016-02-04 9:09 AM Tdove - 2016-02-04 9:05 AM From what I can tell, the facts of the case show Cruz and team did nothing wrong. He was even so upstanding as to apologize to Carson, which I don't think he needed to do. I agree.
Do you REALLY know if or how many of Carson supporters swapped support....NO.....
IMO, you will see a big shake-up in the next month (after NH & SC) due to those dropping from the race. Huckabee, Rand Paul and Santorium have already dropped. Santorium has thrown his support behind Rubio. I don't think Trump will pick up support from the Paul camp but he "might" get a few of the Huckabee supporters.....
I wasn't worried about the numbers, I was focusing on the dirty pool. And it was dirty. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RidenFly - 2016-02-04 9:52 AM Three 4 Luck - 2016-02-05 7:44 AM NJJ - 2016-02-04 9:16 AM GLP - 2016-02-04 9:09 AM Tdove - 2016-02-04 9:05 AM From what I can tell, the facts of the case show Cruz and team did nothing wrong. He was even so upstanding as to apologize to Carson, which I don't think he needed to do. I agree.
Do you REALLY know if or how many of Carson supporters swapped support....NO.....
IMO, you will see a big shake-up in the next month (after NH & SC) due to those dropping from the race. Huckabee, Rand Paul and Santorium have already dropped. Santorium has thrown his support behind Rubio. I don't think Trump will pick up support from the Paul camp but he "might" get a few of the Huckabee supporters.....
Cruz, himself, did not do it but one of his staffers.....does that make him guilty or inept? IN the heat of the caucuses, do you think that Cruz, himself, is going to "monitor" every little thing going on around him.....of course, it would benefit Trump to jump on this to cover up the sh*t that he has thrown out about others. His statement......
One day after winning the Iowa caucuses, Cruz issued an apology to Carson after his staff falsely told Iowa caucusgoers that Carson planned to quit the race, calling it a "mistake."
Cruz said in a statement Tuesday that his campaign staff saw a CNN report that Carson was dropping out, although CNN had not characterized Carson's actions that way.
"Last night when our political team saw the CNN post saying that Dr. Carson was not carrying on to New Hampshire and South Carolina, our campaign updated grassroots leaders just as we would with any breaking news story," Cruz said in a statement first shared with CNN. "That's fair game. What the team then should have done was send around the follow-up statement from the Carson campaign clarifying that he was indeed staying in the race when that came out." | |
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Location: Montana | NJJ - 2016-02-04 9:14 AM RidenFly - 2016-02-04 9:52 AM Three 4 Luck - 2016-02-05 7:44 AM NJJ - 2016-02-04 9:16 AM GLP - 2016-02-04 9:09 AM Tdove - 2016-02-04 9:05 AM From what I can tell, the facts of the case show Cruz and team did nothing wrong. He was even so upstanding as to apologize to Carson, which I don't think he needed to do. I agree.
Do you REALLY know if or how many of Carson supporters swapped support....NO.....
IMO, you will see a big shake-up in the next month (after NH & SC) due to those dropping from the race. Huckabee, Rand Paul and Santorium have already dropped. Santorium has thrown his support behind Rubio. I don't think Trump will pick up support from the Paul camp but he "might" get a few of the Huckabee supporters.....
Cruz said in a statement Tuesday that his campaign staff saw a CNN report that Carson was dropping out, although CNN had not characterized Carson's actions that way.
"Last night when our political team saw the CNN post saying that Dr. Carson was not carrying on to New Hampshire and South Carolina, our campaign updated grassroots leaders just as we would with any breaking news story," Cruz said in a statement first shared with CNN. "That's fair game. What the team then should have done was send around the follow-up statement from the Carson campaign clarifying that he was indeed staying in the race when that came out."
In my opinion, just from the article I read (from CNN), it sounds more like sour grapes in Ben Carson's part.
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Location: Windoming | "Cruz, himself, did not do it but one of his staffers.....does that make him guilty or inept? IN the heat of the caucuses, do you think that Cruz, himself, is going to "monitor" every little thing going on around him.....of course, it would benefit Trump to jump on this to cover up the sh*t that he has thrown out about others. His statement......"
He is responsible for the actions of his staff. Someone has to be accountable. I don't consider this a "little thing", as I'm sure Ben Carson doesn't either!
If he can't control his staff, how is he ever going to run a country?
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | NJJ - 2016-02-04 9:16 AM GLP - 2016-02-04 9:09 AM Tdove - 2016-02-04 9:05 AM From what I can tell, the facts of the case show Cruz and team did nothing wrong. He was even so upstanding as to apologize to Carson, which I don't think he needed to do. I agree.
Do you REALLY know if or how many of Carson supporters swapped support....NO.....
IMO, you will see a big shake-up in the next month (after NH & SC) due to those dropping from the race. Huckabee, Rand Paul and Santorium have already dropped. Santorium has thrown his support behind Rubio. I don't think Trump will pick up support from the Paul camp but he "might" get a few of the Huckabee supporters.....
No one said that Carson's votes would go to Trump. Most likely any votes would have went to Cruz and that could have cost Trump the win. It was odd how the polls all showed Trump ahead and then after the vote Cruz wins? | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | ksjackofalltrades - 2016-02-04 10:29 AM NJJ - 2016-02-04 9:16 AM GLP - 2016-02-04 9:09 AM Tdove - 2016-02-04 9:05 AM From what I can tell, the facts of the case show Cruz and team did nothing wrong. He was even so upstanding as to apologize to Carson, which I don't think he needed to do. I agree.
Do you REALLY know if or how many of Carson supporters swapped support....NO.....
IMO, you will see a big shake-up in the next month (after NH & SC) due to those dropping from the race. Huckabee, Rand Paul and Santorium have already dropped. Santorium has thrown his support behind Rubio. I don't think Trump will pick up support from the Paul camp but he "might" get a few of the Huckabee supporters.....
And if you truly believe the "polls", you are living in a fantasy world......how many times, do you suppose that voters don't answer their phone but the dummy down the road does???? IMO, Carson's votes would have, more than likely, gone to Rubio.....
Trump's delusion is that he didn't win because Iowa voters didn't give him enough credit for funding his own campaign.....maybe they just DIDN'T want him.....novel idea?
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BHW's Simon Cowell
Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | And then you have the mailer that Cruz sent out. That was pretty sketchy too. | |
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BHW's Simon Cowell
Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | NJJ - 2016-02-04 10:35 AM ksjackofalltrades - 2016-02-04 10:29 AM NJJ - 2016-02-04 9:16 AM GLP - 2016-02-04 9:09 AM Tdove - 2016-02-04 9:05 AM From what I can tell, the facts of the case show Cruz and team did nothing wrong. He was even so upstanding as to apologize to Carson, which I don't think he needed to do. I agree.
Do you REALLY know if or how many of Carson supporters swapped support....NO.....
IMO, you will see a big shake-up in the next month (after NH & SC) due to those dropping from the race. Huckabee, Rand Paul and Santorium have already dropped. Santorium has thrown his support behind Rubio. I don't think Trump will pick up support from the Paul camp but he "might" get a few of the Huckabee supporters.....
Trump's delusion is that he didn't win because Iowa voters didn't give him enough credit for funding his own campaign.....maybe they just DIDN'T want him.....novel idea?
The polls were dead on the Democratic side but not right for the Republicans? | |
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