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| I know this topic has been discussed a million times on here, but I need a little refresher. I use Ulcergard when I haul and run but what can I give during the week that is affordable for maintenance? Please share your success stories and cost of the products you use. |
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          Location: Kentucky | I use THE products. They work for my horses and are affordable. BHW has a dealer, wyoming barrel racer, that you can PM. She is awesome! |
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   Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | Oxymax will prevent front and hind gut ulcers. Also, ulcer guard is not good to use a lot. Its hard on their system. I use OxyUlcer and it works a lot better and you only have to give it 2 hours before a run. |
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| Have any of you used G.U.T. ? |
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| Cur-Ost Stomach and Adapt (two products), as well as moving to a no processed feed regimen (oats and alfalfa, flax seed), has pulled my two previously jacked up ulcer horses completely off their daily Ulcergard, even when hauling hard. That vet that formulated it knocked that mix out of the park. I'll always feed it. |
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    Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | My mare has never been diagnosed with ulcers by a vet but when checked by a massage therapist/chiro, she showed mild-medium signs of ulcers with certain pressure points. She's always been a bit on the jumpy/spooky side and can get worked up /stressed easily, even when not being worked and living the life of a pasture pet. She was also very sensitive to leg pressure when riding and would sometimes flip her tail and or flip her head even with the slightest pressure. I started giving her Gastroade last spring and in 6 days, she was much calmer just to ride around the hay field and stopped flipping her tail when I'd apply leg pressure. When I'm riding her, I give her a pump in both feedings and when not riding, shes gets one pump about every other day. I can definietly tell a difference. This winter when it was freezing and I didn't want to carry it back and forth from the house and I wasn't riding, she didn't get any for a couple weeks and you could tell she was a little wired/jumpier and as soon as she started getting it again, she settled back down. I think it just makes her feel better and it's fairly cheap for how long the jug lasts.
http://www.bigdweb.com/Gastroade-Gallon/productinfo/5697/ |
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| classicpotatochip - 2016-02-05 10:47 AM
Cur-Ost Stomach and Adapt (two products), as well as moving to a no processed feed regimen (oats and alfalfa, flax seed), has pulled my two previously jacked up ulcer horses completely off their daily Ulcergard, even when hauling hard. That vet that formulated it knocked that mix out of the park. I'll always feed it.
I use the curost stomach and adapt as well. However, the only 2 ingredients in the stomach are marshmellow root powder and aloe vera powder. Seems you could buy bulk and mix your own. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-02-05 1:16 PM
classicpotatochip - 2016-02-05 10:47 AM
Cur-Ost Stomach and Adapt (two products), as well as moving to a no processed feed regimen (oats and alfalfa, flax seed), has pulled my two previously jacked up ulcer horses completely off their daily Ulcergard, even when hauling hard. That vet that formulated it knocked that mix out of the park. I'll always feed it.
I use the curost stomach and adapt as well. However, the only 2 ingredients in the stomach are marshmellow root powder and aloe vera powder. Seems you could buy bulk and mix your own.
This is why I asked about G.U.T. I believe it is the same ingredients with others I have heard work and much cheaper. |
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 Location: IA | My mare is a very nervous mare & in May of last year she had ulcers. I treated her for one month with Ulcer Gard. I started feeding Stride Supplements product called Transform DSI. This has helped my mares nerves & I have not had to give her Ulcer Gard since. I feed the transform pellets daily to her with her grain. It has prebiotics, probiotics & digestive enzymes. It contains all natural ingredients. It has helped my mare to maintain health weight & a great hair coat. |
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      Location: NE Texas | ShortnRound - 2016-02-05 3:34 PM FLITASTIC - 2016-02-05 1:16 PM classicpotatochip - 2016-02-05 10:47 AM Cur-Ost Stomach and Adapt (two products), as well as moving to a no processed feed regimen (oats and alfalfa, flax seed), has pulled my two previously jacked up ulcer horses completely off their daily Ulcergard, even when hauling hard. That vet that formulated it knocked that mix out of the park. I'll always feed it. I use the curost stomach and adapt as well. However, the only 2 ingredients in the stomach are marshmellow root powder and aloe vera powder. Seems you could buy bulk and mix your own. This is why I asked about G.U.T. I believe it is the same ingredients with others I have heard work and much cheaper. The calcium carbonate in GUT would scare me. It's an acid buffer, meaning it keeps the stomach from producing acid needed for digestion. So then undigested food particles go into the hindgut, potentially creating issues and thereby affecting nutrient assimilation, as undigested food cannot be utilized and can actually initiate issues in the hind gut because it's not supposed to be there. The second thing that would scare me is the corn distllers dried grains, as corn products are known inflammation instigators, and then artificial flavoring would concern me.
I also choose to steer away from all of the probiotics, as I think they are overfed and over utilized in both humans and horses.
Edited by Herbie 2016-02-05 4:20 PM
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 Location: IA | Transform costs $89 for a 30-60 day supply or $249 for a 90-180 supply |
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | Nice topic! |
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-02-05 2:16 PM
classicpotatochip - 2016-02-05 10:47 AM
Cur-Ost Stomach and Adapt (two products), as well as moving to a no processed feed regimen (oats and alfalfa, flax seed), has pulled my two previously jacked up ulcer horses completely off their daily Ulcergard, even when hauling hard. That vet that formulated it knocked that mix out of the park. I'll always feed it.
I use the curost stomach and adapt as well. However, the only 2 ingredients in the stomach are marshmellow root powder and aloe vera powder. Seems you could buy bulk and mix your own.
Sure. But why fix what's not broken? It's working, and honestly I don't want to jack with mixing my own and getting a ratio that doesn't work as well. It's worth it to me, simply because I'm pretty sure he puts a voodoo spell on it before sealing the bag.
I don't have the time to take voodoo lessons, or time to tinker with powders, or money to burn on sick horses or Ulcergard or expensive ingredients that I used to make something that sucks or didn't bless (or hex?) correctly.
As long as that Doc is mixing it and distributing it, I'll be buying it...I believe in it. The joint stuff/respiratory stuff, well, I'm not totally sold. But the tummy stuff...yep take my money. |
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| Cur Ost Stomach and Adapt for me, too. I have also found that since feeding the Total, he holds his chiro adjustments longer and is needing fewer adjustments. He is much easier to adjust, too per his chiropractor. He has had trouble with tightness in the poll and was always hard to adjust, but not anymore. I have used Gastroade and THE for his ulcers/digestive upset and while they helped, I didn't get the total change back to his normal self until I started using the Cur Ost products. |
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     Location: Jersey Girl | Gastroade. Big Dee's has it. Economical and I got good results with it. |
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      Location: Got Lobsta? | Smart-Gut and Ulcer Gard day before day of and day after. |
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     Location: Monticello, AR | I have a bit of a different situation...my 2 yr old has ulcers..... Not even broke yet! Had her scoped in September....active bleeding ulcers, and this was after a month of the standard ulcergard regimen. So, she was put on straight omeprazole with decreasing amounts every month. She has been off since middle of November and doing good......till a week or so ago. And the only thing I can think of that might have exacerbated the problem.....took all of them for their yearly shots, coggins, etc. So, back to omeprazole....but, I just wonder how I'll ever get her going and seasoned if she has this much trouble as a baby???? Sigh...... |
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| upscowpatty - 2016-02-06 6:34 PM
Β I have a bit of a different situation...my 2 yr old has ulcers..... Not even broke yet! Had her scoped in September....active bleeding ulcers, and this was after a month of the standard ulcergard regimen. Β So, she was put on straight omeprazole with decreasing amounts every month. She has been off since middle of November and doing good......till a week or so ago. Β And the only thing I can think of that might have exacerbated the problem.....took all of them for their yearly shots, coggins, etc. So, back to omeprazole....but, I just wonder how I'll ever get her going and seasoned if she has this much trouble as a baby???? Β Sigh......
I am absolutely not a rep, but I would use either curost stomach, THE, etc as a daily dose. SO much healthier than the omeprazole long term. What you probably witnessed was acid rebound. |
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