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| Selling a 4yo I don't have time to finish. She has had about 75-90 days of riding total. Has all the fancy broke buttons and has no buck, rear or run off in her butt still needs help with the little stuff like being helped while trotting/loping. I consider her green broke but I don't want to turn people away OR make people think she is something she isn't.
What do you call "green broke"
And if someone doesn't mind adding what you think she might be worth, http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mr+fuel+this+fire |
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| Very nice.
First, I'm no expert, but I think she's past green. I'd phrase it somthing like: Nice 4 yo FWF bred filly (put in height) with 90 days of riding........or nicely started with 90 days of riding.
Then if you think she's about ready to start the pattern put that in there too. I'd play up the pedigree if I were you. FWF and OMR...not too shabby.
Good luck. If I was younger and in the market, I'd sure look at her. |
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| Thank you! I wish I could keep her but I work 80+ hours a week and need something further along. She is definitely not ready for the pattern. She lacks about 60 days riding IMO. Had a pretty late start in the game but definitely worth the time. |
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| I consider all horses green until they have been there and done it all.
My horses don't generally get the broke title till age of 8/9 after they have been hauled, and rode in different arenas, areas, trails, in all conditions, all parts of the day.
I believe brain maturity has a lot to do with a horse is being broke.
Even the worst thing imaginable can happen on a broke horse of 20 plus years. Too many riders believe their horsemanship skills are better then they really are |
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Location: Mississippi | Green broke to me means it will ride outside of the round pen but just that. Stops and will back a step or two but no neck reining yet. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I saw your ad, I think you putting performance home only in your ad is not a good thing. |
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| Walk trot lope both ways |
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Location: Canada | Green to me is walk trot lope both directions and back up. I'd say your mare is past green in the training. I would advertise her as well started with 90 days training and post a video of what she can do.
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Location: OH. IO | 75 - 90 days of TOTAL riding is VERY GREEN in my book.any ground work before she was broke? |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | jake16 - 2016-02-06 9:01 PM 75 - 90 days of TOTAL riding is VERY GREEN in my book.any ground work before she was broke?
I agree, I still consider this VERY GREEN.
Has she been hauled to any shows, even to be tied to a trailer? Being able to get on and WTC and back at home is far from what she's going to see and do and there is a lot more to go before I'd take the word GReen away from her. |
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| I expect a lot before I call a horse 'broke'. I still sometimes call the four year old green and he's been under saddle since he was two - can run barrels, poles, knows basic reining, dressage, minor cattle work, and has been trail rode all over the state. But he has baby moments where he can lose all that, and so I don't consider him mature enough to be 'broke' sometimes. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | Broke to me is being seasoned and running a solid pattern, usually a lot of horses that are running still lack some basics because people rush them.
I wouldn't state she's green, I would put that she's well started with 90 days riding or however, yes I believe that is still very green but has a good start and foundation to go on, someone knowledgable can hopefully bring her along and finish up what has been started.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-02-06 5:44 PM
I saw your ad, I think you putting performance home only in your ad is not a good thing.
Why not? The reason I added that is because I had someone contact me about making her a broodmare and I want her to go somewhere and have a job. I can make her a broodie here lol. |
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| barlracr429 - 2016-02-06 9:36 PM
jake16 - 2016-02-06 9:01 PM 75 - 90 days of TOTAL riding is VERY GREEN in my book.any ground work before she was broke?
I agree, I still consider this VERY GREEN.
Has she been hauled to any shows, even to be tied to a trailer? Being able to get on and WTC and back at home is far from what she's going to see and do and there is a lot more to go before I'd take the word GReen away from her.
She has had lots of ground work. I use the Clinton Anderson method primarily.
Why would 75-90 days of riding mean she hasn't been tied to a trailer? Lol. She was with a colt starter 30 days, been rode in indoor and outdoor arenas, through water and up and down basic trail riding obstacles. I have had her at the vet for a few nights at a time each time she goes because I work nights so I bring her and leave her until they do what I want done (shots, teeth, coggins-ect). She has always taken to that very well eats good and doesn't get worked up. Gets in stocks no problem, hauls good.
I don't plan on taking green from her soon. Just curious other people's thoughts :) |
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Location: KS | I would probably consider her green broke also mainly bc of the amount of days on her, but don't focus so much on that as to what you mention above, focus on what she can do. If she no longer has any buck I consider the "green broke" title to not mean as much, yes its important that she has all the basics down as well before you can get away from that title, but I wouldn't necessarily consider them "green broke" if she does.
And I think you can call a horse broke before they ever know the barrel pattern, it would only make a difference if your selling her as a broke barrel horse, she can be a broke horse started on barrels or introduced to barrels....
I also consider "green" and "green broke" two different things. Green meaning ground work and saddled a couple times maybe. Green broke to me is actually having 30 days on a horse as well as ground work.
I think this is different depending on your area and how others perceive it, just be clear about it.....Good Luck! |
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Location: Phoenix | chicks2 - 2016-02-06 6:32 AM Very nice. First, I'm no expert, but I think she's past green. I'd phrase it somthing like: Nice 4 yo FWF bred filly (put in height) with 90 days of riding........or nicely started with 90 days of riding. Then if you think she's about ready to start the pattern put that in there too. I'd play up the pedigree if I were you. FWF and OMR...not too shabby. Good luck. If I was younger and in the market, I'd sure look at her.
Didn't read all responses but I agree with this.
Green broke to me hardly has any buttons. |
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| Do your legs get tired keeping her moving? That's for sure green broke. LOL
Don't worry about terminology so much and just give her specifics and let those interested in buying use their judgement from there. Obviously just from the few posts here your description means something different to each person. If 90 days is the only experience she has under saddle, that might still be green broke to many people. Unless she was ridden before that a lot and you mean 90 days of barrel training.
90 days of riding where and how might be helpful in your description too. Did she stay at your property the whole time? Did she get out in crowds, noises, see the sights? What did she do in those 90 days?
Edited by sodapop 2016-02-07 10:14 AM
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RoaniePonie11 - 2016-02-07 9:35 AM Southtxponygirl - 2016-02-06 5:44 PM I saw your ad, I think you putting performance home only in your ad is not a good thing. Why not? The reason I added that is because I had someone contact me about making her a broodmare and I want her to go somewhere and have a job. I can make her a broodie here lol.
I think putting in performance home only would or could be missing her a huge chance of finding that forever home with someone that wants a horse they could be using for working on a ranch or later on taking care of that special someone. Performace home only sounds like you would turn away someone that could fall in love with her and have her for a lifetime. Not everyone that is looking for that special horse is not a barrel racer or a performance type person.  |
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| Thanks everyone!
I did go ahead and take the performance home only out. I get where that could scare some good potential owners off.
I will probably go back and add some more about how and where she has been rode today. I didn't really think about it, but she really has seen a lot for her 90 days and has taken to being hauled to different places really well.
Thanks again everyone! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RoaniePonie11 - 2016-02-07 11:53 AM Thanks everyone! I did go ahead and take the performance home only out. I get where that could scare some good potential owners off. I will probably go back and add some more about how and where she has been rode today. I didn't really think about it, but she really has seen a lot for her 90 days and has taken to being hauled to different places really well. Thanks again everyone!
Awesome, I hope that she finds that forever home with that special somebody. She is a pretty girl and deserves a chance to find a special place in somebodys else's life.  |
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