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       Location: Central Washington | My husband wants one and says we are getting one 
Just wondering what to expect.
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         Location: North Dakota | I thought those were a scam? |
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| Be careful!! Some don't stay "teacup"!!!! |
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| expect to pay major money for a true teacup....if it has potbelly lineage stay far far away...they will get as big as you let them get, more you feed them, bigger they grow. |
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| Expect it to grow to 70lbs+. Julianas are about as small as you can get and they average 75 to 130 or heavier. These tiny pigs that people are advertising are just very young piglets that are technically to small to wean. A lot of them are advertising pigs at less than a week old.
Often times they are advertised as their parents being tiny when the parents haven't even met their own mature weight and size yet. A pig can reproduce at 5-6 months old but grow until they are almost a year old!
There are so many of them that end up at the sale barns and shelter because people were told their little pigs wouldn't get much bigger than 30 pounds.
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     Location: N Texas | Oh gosh, don't get me started on the "teacup" and "mini" pig crap! Unless you buy one from a reputable breeder who can show you both parents (they have to be at least 3 years old to see their full size), don't fall for it. Like another poster mentioned, potbelly pigs do NOT stay small. My sister does have one tiny potbelly that I can actually pick up and carry around, but he is a fluke and not a true representation of the breed. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone post their pig for sale and say "got this mini pig and it got way bigger than we were expecting!" Juliana pigs are the only breed I know of offhand that do stay small, but they are pricey.
People sell them at 2-3 weeks of age and encourage bottle feeding. That is not only irresponsible, but very deceiving. They sell them so young because the piglets are still cute and tiny. I'll attach pics of a potbelly pig that was so cute and tiny and "teacup" size when he was born, but didn't stay that way for long.
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| http://www.scampp.com/TeacupPigs.html
Tea Cup pigs are a scam, just like pocket beagles. |
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     Location: N Texas | Just came across this article, thought it was pretty funny, and very insightful. Just do your research!
http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/why-i-cringe-when-i-hear-a...
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| I was told from a vet who's wife used to breed pigs a while ago that there is no such thing and that pigs are like fish the more u feed them and the more room you give them to move around the more they grow. Most the pictures u see of them are when there just a week or two old so they are clearly smaller cuz there still babies |
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     Location: N Texas | IMO, when someone says they have a micro pig, it's the same as saying I have a micro horse 
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     Location: California | I breed MINI Pigs. The AMPA is trying really hard to get rid of all words such as teacup, micro, nano, pocket etc.
My pigs are either 100% Juliana or 75% Juliana. They are all under 17" tall and none of them weigh more than 50lbs. YES, they are all FULL grown. According to breed registry, pigs over 18" and originally weighed more than 60lbs were disqualified. The AMPA has decided 60lbs was too "unrealistic". It's really not, I my females are in the 35-40lb range.
A lot of people like to say Mini Pigs are scams... But let me ask you this.. Have you ever seen a full grown farm hog? 500lbs+ & NO they are NOT full grown when you see them at fairs when they are 260lbs+. |
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     Location: California | Here is my Full Grown, super pregnant Juliana.
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    Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | Run AWAY run FAR AWAY.
They are destructive, obnoxious, noisy, Bigger than promised, and DEFINITELY NOT smarter than dogs. and the **** thing SCREAMS any time it is handled, picked up, or you make it do something it doesnt like. ( put a harness on it, take its food away, make it move out of your way, anything) It's like having a kid with a bad attitude...
I say I don't have regrets, well I do have this one...
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| Yes, full grown regular Hogs are HUGE. Left to grow and grow (like boars) they will outweigh a horse easily. They are also terrifying and dangerous. So I guess, yes, a Mini pig would be very small compared to this. But do you want the mini version of a 1500 pound Hog in your house? Say 100 lbs? 200lbs? that's still pretty dang big. I expect it will end up living in your barn eventually. |
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     Location: N Texas | ccarpe18 - 2016-02-09 4:21 PM
I breed MINI Pigs. The AMPA is trying really hard to get rid of all words such as teacup, micro, nano, pocket etc.
My pigs are either 100% Juliana or 75% Juliana. They are all under 17" tall and none of them weigh more than 50lbs. YES, they are all FULL grown. According to breed registry, pigs over 18" and originally weighed more than 60lbs were disqualified. The AMPA has decided 60lbs was too "unrealistic". It's really not, I my females are in the 35-40lb range.Β
A lot of people like to say Mini Pigs are scams... But let me ask you this.. Have you ever seen a full grown farm hog? 500lbs+ Β & NO they are NOT full grown when you see them at fairs when they are 260lbs+.Β Β
It's a scam in the sense that shady people sell two-week old piglets (usually potbelly or potbelly crosses) under the deception that they will only grow to 20 pounds, which is only remotely possible by severely underfeeding them. With proper care, those piglets will easily grow to 75-100 pounds at least. The TRUE minis (Julianas) are much more expensive, so the $300-$500 "micro" pigs are more appealing. That's why I told her to buy from a reputable breeder who can show her the parents or adults that are at least three years old.
But yes, what a lot of people don't understand is they are "mini" compared to a full-size farm hog. Just like a mini horse compared to a draft horse. |
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     Location: California | Yes I totally agree. NO piglet should be sold until it is at least 8 weeks of age. I also see a ton of lies out there.
I sell my Julianas for $500, but I'm also in CA, where a lot of people are selling pigs whether they are Juliana or not. Some people just don't care. People literally think my 8 week old piglets are full grown . They grow for 2-4 years. I screen my buyers like crazy, if I think they shouldn't have a pig, then I won't sell it. I don't care if I catch fire for it, go somewhere else. I could go on all day about those stories though. LOL |
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        Location: n.c. | Gunner11 - 2016-02-09 4:11 PM IMO, when someone says they have a micro pig, it's the same as saying I have a micro horse 
What height determines a micro horse? I've got a micro mini. she's 22" tall. 5 years old. Meannest thing you will ever come across in your life. Not my idea.... |
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 I Love the Oldies
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       Location: Central Washington | I shouldn't have said Teacup....sorry.
He is looking at a Juliana...the smallest I believe there is. The breeder seems to be knowledgeable and has said they aren't available until 6-8 weeks old. They also said to feed only 1-3% of their body weight? Can be potty trained, etc. Not sure how I feel about having one in the house 
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     Location: N Texas | runningk - 2016-02-09 5:59 PM
Gunner11 - 2016-02-09 4:11 PM IMO, when someone says they have a micro pig, it's the same as saying I have a micro horse 
What height determines a micro horse? Β I've got a micro mini. she's Β 22" tall. Β 5 years old. Β Meannest thing you will ever come across in your life. Β Not my idea....Β
I was just teasing :) We don't call horses or other animals "micro", so I don't understand why that term is used for pigs. It's very misleading. |
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     Location: California | tweeks - 2016-02-09 4:53 PM I shouldn't have said Teacup....sorry.
He is looking at a Juliana...the smallest I believe there is. The breeder seems to be knowledgeable and has said they aren't available until 6-8 weeks old. They also said to feed only 1-3% of their body weight? Can be potty trained, etc. Not sure how I feel about having one in the house
They can definitely be potty trained to go outside or to also use a litter box. BUT highly suggest getting spayed or neutered if that is not already being done for you. This is where a lot of problems of bad or unwanted behavior can happen. My babies started to follow their mom to the "bathroom" @ 4 days old. I have them in an outdoor pen.
As for feeding, the guidelines on Mazuri brand mini pig food say to feed 1/2 cup per 25lbs. Plus whatever extra fruits and veggies you feel like feeding, if not extras, then increase the feed. All Pigs are different, and may need more or less.
One thing to keep in mind. Pigs do not get "full". They don't know when to stop eating... Pigs can become very overweight, just like us.
PM me if you'd like. I have 9 minis, & can help you out with any questions! |
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