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Location: KS | What do you guys suggest? She has free choice brome hay and fed grain (cracked corn and whole oats) once a day. She really needs some nice green grass to fatten her up but we're a few months away from that. Need something easy she's kept with several other horses. Thanks. |
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Location: North Texas | Moistened beet pulp twice a day. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Beet pulp (no molasses) and rice bran. I get MAX E GLO rice bran, blue bag, powder stuff. It seems to soak soooo much better than the pellets.
I also add THE Muscle Mass. And on my OTTB I'm adding Cool Calories. He's putting on some much needed weight and everyone else is hefty and happy. |
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| Oxymax from Oxygen. Ask Jen Berry. She is a rep on here. |
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 Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | how many lbs of grain? that doesnt appear to be a real nutritional diet.. increase fat and calories or add soaked beet pulp or soaked alfalfa cubes or pellets.. |
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| I have had good luck with amplify by Purina. It has gotten expensive tho. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I'm an Amplify fan.It works. |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | Mega Oil by Oxygen. It will help her put and keep weight on as well as make her look great! |
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Location: Bastrop, TX | If a horse is not fed an ample quantity based on weight it doesn't matter if you fed it pure fat. So many want to add add add all of these other things but if you look at just corn and oats (which we all fed in the old days) well those as old as me....lol.... there's really no vitamins, minerals etc to it.
A horse needs a balance of all of those things, but feeding 1 lb of each a day as an example is not enough. But if you want to feed ALL HAY then you still need to provide a good quality hay and MINERALS at the least.
WORM FREE.....even if you are feed a Top quality feed, it's not doing them any good if they are unable to absorb the nutrients from the feed. 1. Paste then start on diatomaceous earth or 2. Paste and use Strongid C Daily wormer but still paste every couple of months or so.
Teeth......are her teeth good enough to crush the feed you are feeding? Keeping teeth healthy is most important. If they're losing from their mouth and it's falling on the ground, then they're not getting what you just fed. |
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Location: mi | If all physical reasons have been ruled out for weight loss. Add alfalfa. A good second cut or even a second cut mix alfalfa will do wonders. |
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Location: North Dakota | I have one that is occassionally a harder keeper and this year he has done well. What I would do in the past if he showed up a little thinner than I liked:
modified "power pack" a tube of safe guard 10 days apart-this horse is mouthy and tends to lick everything the other horses don't. I make sure the amount of grain he is eating is adequate-trial and error I simply add a pound or two and see how they improve.
What I've been feeding this year has made a WORLD of difference.
2 pounds of whole oats - this horse is picky so sometimes he gets 1 pound oats and 1 pound woodys summer heat instead of just oats-but not always.
1 cup of flax
Free choice mineral-progressive nutrition
Dried up pasture when they want
About 40-50 pounds of second cutting alfalfa.
The forage makes all the difference in the world. If you can add flax and alfalfa to her ration you should see a bloom fairly quickly. |
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| After ensuring there are no dental issues, and powerpacking, I would free feed bermuda all day. add a flake or two of alfalfa at night along with Calf Manna.
I've had to rehab many horses over the years and this works for us.
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Location: East Texas | I have an old guy (22) and he is getting Purina Senior (it has Amplify in it) and 10 pounds of soaked alfalfa cubes a day. He has put on a lot of weight and is really looking good! |
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Location: KS | Thank you for the responses.
She is wormed, I might worm her again even though its not time yet, just to be safe.
Her teeth are floated.
She's fed around 3lbs of grain (oats and corn) per day.
Like I mention she has free choice hay, which is good hay, my husband does custom haywork for a living, so hay is put up ourselves for both our cattle and horses and done correctly, we also use net wrapped to help preserve.
I have thrown alfalfa in the past a few flakes a day, I stopped bc she was showing signs of EPM (inflammation not confirmed EPM) a few years ago, and Im pretty certain it came from our alfalfa bales which are stored in a barn where critters can roam and sh*t obviously.
Some of you have mentioned beet pulp, Ive looked into this before but I feel like if you have good quality hay and I feed oats, Im getting the same thing from them? Correct me if Im wrong. Beet pulp is a form of fiber which could be but should be equal to good quality hay, also is a source of energy which Im getting from the whole oats.
Someone mentioned above minerals, how are you getting minerals to your horses? Loose? Something I will look in too also.
I might try the calf manna for a month or so and see if that helps, I looked into the mega oil, this looks like its solely just crude fat, so not sure that I want to push that and get no other nutrients/protein from it.
I have 6 other horses that look great, fat and happy, so I don't feel like my feed program is a terrible one with no nutrients, Ive never been one to try a bunch of different/fancy/expensive supplements or added feed. I like it simple. In the summer they are out on grass and sometime they come up for grain and sometimes they don't.
Thanks again for the information!!
Edited by Peewee212 2016-02-17 4:57 PM
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Location: KS | ...
Edited by Peewee212 2016-02-17 4:56 PM
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Experienced Mouse Trapper
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Location: North Dakota | With that many horses, are you sure she's getting to the hay feeder?? They might be ganging up on her..... |
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Location: Where you need a paddle... Oregon! | I feed whole oats, free choice orchard and alfalfa, and Renew Gold. She looks fine, I suppose, but I upped her Renew Gold last weekend to see if I could plump her up a little. |
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | 3 lbs a day is Not enough calories..nor nutrition |
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Location: KS | Bibliafarm - 2016-02-17 6:51 PM
3 lbs a day is Not enough calories..nor nutrition
Do you realize the nutritional value in good hay? And I know a lot of guys who feed hay only.
What do feed if you don't mind I ask?
Yes she's in the hay feeder, no one's ganging up on her. She was with just 3 other horses until a week ago. |
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | Peewee212 - 2016-02-17 8:22 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-02-17 6:51 PM 3 lbs a day is Not enough calories..nor nutrition Do you realize the nutritional value in good hay? And I know a lot of guys who feed hay only. What do feed if you don't mind I ask? Yes she's in the hay feeder, no one's ganging up on her. She was with just 3 other horses until a week ago.
my point is if she needs to put weight on then its not enough for her.. some horses do well on less with good hay.. winter time it can be a struggle for some. |
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