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Location: Somewhere around here | Trying to make a light hearted laugh at the woes of trying to sell horses.
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  The Color Specialist
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | Had a filly I REALLY didn't want to sell. Had people pestering me to price her, so I did. I **** you not, the VERY next day she was 3 legged lame! This happened TWICE! |
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Location: Idaho | Had a really nice mare I was selling a long time ago. I was at a show, warming up in the warm up pen. She was doing really good, like her normal self. The guy brought his daughter because my mare was kid friendly.. asked her to slide stop and she tripped and stumbled on her front end, and she totally flipped head over heels. I got thrown far enough away where she didn't land on me.. and she was okay, just startled. Let's just say after that,I didn't hear from them again. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Here is one and she is a member on here, but I can't remember her BHW name. I sold her a yearling gelding on payments (never again except babies). The contract was signed in July or August and he was to be paid off by the end of Sep. She wanted to use her contract and I was fine with that. It stated the horse would be insured and whether insured or not, he would be paid in full.
Never heard from her again by the date he was to be paid off. I should have just kept her small deposit, told her she was SOL and resold him. BUT instead I contacted her and asked if she still wanted him. She had failed to pay anymore on him, but said she had a shipper she was lining up. It was Oct 31st when the certified check came for what was owed and he was to ship the next day. I deposted the check that am and went to my son's Halloween party at his school. My father in law's SO shows up and tells me the colt had spooked and ran head first into his pipe pen and broke his neck. Died instantly. I called the buyer up and told her I needed her insurance company's name and I also had called a vet out to post him as insurance always requires that.
She told me she never insured him. She then wanted me to split the cost of the horse with her, because she couldn't afford to be out that much money? HUH!!! She never fulfilled her part of the contract. It was HER contract. I had already cashed the check, but since it was a certified check, she CANCELED the bank account it was taken from. So it came back insufficient payment.
I got a lawyer and had them send her a letter etc. So she got one too and was trying to prove I sold her a horse that had died before I made the deal. LOL right!!! I had pictures I had been sending her that had a date stamp. Nice try!!! And my vet wrote a letter stating he had seen the horse within 2 weeks of his death for a health/coggins. I also was smart enough to take pictures of the horse (which also had a date stamp) showing him laying on the ground dead. I had my lawyer send those to her lawyer.
Then her lawyer wanted the horse...the horse at this point had been dead for a good 2 months and the weather was very warm for us. We said sure. Bring some buckets and scoop shovels and you can probably slop most of him home. At this point it was getting to be a pretty sick joke between both lawyers and myself. She was becoming the laughing stock of our town. Then never heard from her again and I wasn't going to spend more money suing her pathetic self, just to prove a point. She is what she is and has to live with that.
She was one of the biggest scams we have ever gotten into. I could have sold him easily as he was a nice yearling and I wasn't asking an arm and a leg for him.
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| My friend was trying to sell her gelding for a few months when someone offers her a 2 for 1 trade. The two horses really weren't much, but she wanted to get rid of the gelding, so she agreed. She was going to take the gelding down there and pick up the two mares and be done with it. Well a week before she's due to make the trip, the gelding gets caught in the fence and degloves his back leg. She sends pictures to the buyers and they still wanted him, so they make the trade. We got the mare in my profile picture and a pony we sold at auction, they got an injured gelding that died from colic less than a year later..... Needless to say, it was a really unlucky trade for them.
ETA: the mare in my profile picture ended up winning me a top 10 award for barrel racing, so she turned out pretty all right. haha
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Queen Bean of Ponyland
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Location: WYOMING | I have too many to share but I have some GREAT stories of long time friendships made and customers who make the bad not so bad.
There are some doosies out there though! Had one last weekend!
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | geronabean - 2016-02-27 4:09 PM I have too many to share but I have some GREAT stories of long time friendships made and customers who make the bad not so bad. There are some doosies out there though! Had one last weekend! Brokers seem to be where I am headed so they can deal with the crazies!
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Location: Canada | I was selling a nice quiet 4 Year old. He was quiet and well broke but as he was only four I recommended him for intermediate to experienced riders.
I got a call from a woman looking for a first horse for her 15 Year old. I was skeptical but she said her daughter was in twice a week lessons for the last seven years and would be continuing her training. So I figured sure come out.
The girl comes out tacks the horse warms him up nicely. He's working so beautifully for her I'm excited to see how the ride continues. So after a bit I suggest she go ahead and ask for a lope to see how he feels.
The girl then tells me "oh I've never loped."
In seven years of lessons with one coach, two times a week this kid had NEVER gone past a trot.
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| I really like this post. Not that I like hearing about bad sales or horses getting hurt, but I like reading everyone's experiences. I know my mom sold a nice sorrel gelding one time to a lady who didn't have much experience, but had another girl who said she was a good horsewoman. Needing to downsize, my mom sold him, she seemed like a nice lady who was going to give him a great home. I don't remember all the details, but the girl who was helping her, started hitting the horse and he got where he would bite and kick at the owner. This horse was around us kids growing up and never did these things around us. Its sad to think that a nice gentle horse could turn mean in the wrong hands. I still think about him from time to time and wonder what happened to him. My mom bought his dam cause she was pregnant and going to the kill buyer. The mare had never been touched, but we enjoyed her and that gelding. |
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Location: In the saddle enjoying the East Texas sky | I have a buying horror story I think you'll enjoy. Several years ago was looking for a different style horse than the main horse I had and after months of looking and trying horses I found one that I was interested in. Older horse (late teens) that was being rode by a young girl and I could tell I really liked her style. The price was listed as private treaty and said text or call. The first text I send the owner is "I'm interested in you horse and would like to hear more, but before I waste your time my budget is X amount." Owner responds that said horse is WAY over my budget. I responded with a short thank you and ended it there. Owner continues to text me obsessively asking when I am going to try the horse. I continue to explain that the horse is out of budget and unless she is willing to take $20,000 off it would be a waste of my time and the owners to try said horse. Less than 24 hours later I get a call and owner has left her purse at a restaurant in my town while she was coming back from a rodeo (horse owner lives 10.5 hours away.) and she asked me to pick it up for her and meet her half way (I have never met this person in my life and have no clue what she looks like, but me being the wonderful person I am was willing to help her out). During the phone conversation she said she was willing to work with me on the horse because of what a wonderful person" I was and that she "just had a really good feeling about us" (that is the horse and I). Skip to the next day I drive five hours to give her her purse back and stupidly I went ahead and tried the horse and of course fell in love with the horse after making two smoking runs (probably the best runs I've ever made to date). I get off the horse and she tells me she can't lower the price because her daughter found a very expensive horse from over on the east coast she wanted and she needs every penny so they don't have to get a loan to buy said horse. So instead she offers to throw in the saddle that they had custom fitted for the horse. I told her I could not afford that price and I was sorry that we couldn't make an agreement. The next day I get texts asking when I'm going to pick the horse up because she needs it gone so she can get her daughters new horse. I responded that I could not buy the horse. Owner then tells me to get a loan because "it is meant to be" I responded that I had never applied for a loan to buy a horse and I was not about to buy a horse on a loan that I CANT even insure because it's too old! Owner spends the next four days texting me asking me to come get the horse and by the weekend I finally responded back and told her (again) I was not buying the horse. She texts me back "I just told a buyer the horse was sold! What am I supposed to do now? I can't believe you wasted my time like this" at that point I just wanted to pull my hair out. Lesson to be learned: Nobody is actually going to make a price cut like that for me and if they say they will it's probably to good to be true. I should have never rode the horse. That was a huge mistake on my part and I accept that...
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | CouchJockey - 2016-02-27 8:20 PM I have a buying horror story I think you'll enjoy. Several years ago was looking for a different style horse than the main horse I had and after months of looking and trying horses I found one that I was interested in. Older horse (late teens) that was being rode by a young girl and I could tell I really liked her style. The price was listed as private treaty and said text or call. The first text I send the owner is "I'm interested in you horse and would like to hear more, but before I waste your time my budget is X amount." Owner responds that said horse is WAY over my budget. I responded with a short thank you and ended it there. Owner continues to text me obsessively asking when I am going to try the horse. I continue to explain that the horse is out of budget and unless she is willing to take $20,000 off it would be a waste of my time and the owners to try said horse. Less than 24 hours later I get a call and owner has left her purse at a restaurant in my town while she was coming back from a rodeo (horse owner lives 10.5 hours away.) and she asked me to pick it up for her and meet her half way (I have never met this person in my life and have no clue what she looks like, but me being the wonderful person I am was willing to help her out). During the phone conversation she said she was willing to work with me on the horse because of what a wonderful person" I was and that she "just had a really good feeling about us" (that is the horse and I). Skip to the next day I drive five hours to give her her purse back and stupidly I went ahead and tried the horse and of course fell in love with the horse after making two smoking runs (probably the best runs I've ever made to date). I get off the horse and she tells me she can't lower the price because her daughter found a very expensive horse from over on the east coast she wanted and she needs every penny so they don't have to get a loan to buy said horse. So instead she offers to throw in the saddle that they had custom fitted for the horse. I told her I could not afford that price and I was sorry that we couldn't make an agreement. The next day I get texts asking when I'm going to pick the horse up because she needs it gone so she can get her daughters new horse. I responded that I could not buy the horse. Owner then tells me to get a loan because "it is meant to be" I responded that I had never applied for a loan to buy a horse and I was not about to buy a horse on a loan that I CANT even insure because it's too old! Owner spends the next four days texting me asking me to come get the horse and by the weekend I finally responded back and told her (again) I was not buying the horse. She texts me back "I just told a buyer the horse was sold! What am I supposed to do now? I can't believe you wasted my time like this" at that point I just wanted to pull my hair out. Lesson to be learned: Nobody is actually going to make a price cut like that for me and if they say they will it's probably to good to be true. I should have never rode the horse. That was a huge mistake on my part and I accept that...
WOW!! Wonder if there is a way to highlight all the "I am not buying the horse" texts and send them back to her. Some people are freaks.  |
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| CouchJockey - 2016-02-27 10:20 PM
I have a buying horror story I think you'll enjoy. Several years ago was looking for a different style horse than the main horse I had and after months of looking and trying horses I found one that I was interested in. Older horse (late teens) that was being rode by a young girl and I could tell I really liked her style. The price was listed as private treaty and said text or call. The first text I send the owner is "I'm interested in you horse and would like to hear more, but before I waste your time my budget is X amount." Owner responds that said horse is WAY over my budget. I responded with a short thank you and ended it there. Owner continues to text me obsessively asking when I am going to try the horse. I continue to explain that the horse is out of budget and unless she is willing to take $20,000 off it would be a waste of my time and the owners to try said horse. Less than 24 hours later I get a call and owner has left her purse at a restaurant in my town while she was coming back from a rodeo (horse owner lives 10.5 hours away.) and she asked me to pick it up for her and meet her half way (I have never met this person in my life and have no clue what she looks like, but me being the wonderful person I am was willing to help her out). During the phone conversation she said she was willing to work with me on the horse because of what a wonderful person" I was and that she "just had a really good feeling about us" (that is the horse and I). Skip to the next day I drive five hours to give her her purse back and stupidly I went ahead and tried the horse and of course fell in love with the horse after making two smoking runs (probably the best runs I've ever made to date). I get off the horse and she tells me she can't lower the price because her daughter found a very expensive horse from over on the east coast she wanted and she needs every penny so they don't have to get a loan to buy said horse. So instead she offers to throw in the saddle that they had custom fitted for the horse. I told her I could not afford that price and I was sorry that we couldn't make an agreement. The next day I get texts asking when I'm going to pick the horse up because she needs it gone so she can get her daughters new horse. I responded that I could not buy the horse. Owner then tells me to get a loan because "it is meant to be" I responded that I had never applied for a loan to buy a horse and I was not about to buy a horse on a loan that I CANT even insure because it's too old! Owner spends the next four days texting me asking me to come get the horse and by the weekend I finally responded back and told her (again) I was not buying the horse. She texts me back "I just told a buyer the horse was sold! What am I supposed to do now? I can't believe you wasted my time like this" at that point I just wanted to pull my hair out. Lesson to be learned: Nobody is actually going to make a price cut like that for me and if they say they will it's probably to good to be true. I should have never rode the horse. That was a huge mistake on my part and I accept that...
This is just NUTS. I've had my fair share of crazy sellers, but you got a wild one there. |
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| We have a super nice, solid mare. 3D at big shows. Confidence builder for ANY age/level rider. Will slow it down or speed it up depending on what rider asks. A broker contacted us to show to a client. We had a VERY detailed ad including the age, registration, videos, maintenance etc. My 20 yr old daughter meets them at the arena to show the mare. The client is looking her over and asked, "how old is she?" My daughter said, "11." The client was real ****y and said, "she's too old." The client leaves but the broker wanted to try her. Fine. My daughter let's her, tells her the mare is push style, sit down and say whoa and leave her alone at the barrel. She runs her hard to first barrel sits down AND RIPS HER FACE OFF trying to PULL her around the barrel. The mare freaks out and blows off. She yanks her to a stop turns around and in a hateful tone, "you literally don't touch her?" I wasn't there bc at this point the test ride would be over. My daughter didn't know what to do. She's never sold a horse before, but this was her mare and she wanted to do this herself. She ran the mare through the pattern again and she did beautifully. She asked my daughter her bottom dollar. She told her she was firm on price. The broker left, life goes on we never here from her but later I hear from a mutual good friend of mine that she told her clients not to look at the mares bc she's crippled. I was LIVID!!! She's not, she does require yearly maintenance and we were very upfront and released all vet records. My daughter begged me not to say anything. |
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Location: MN | We sold a horse a few years ago and after the lady had the horse for a month want to return the horse because it would not dance with her out in the pasture like her old horse would. Told her that we weren't taking the horse back. |
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Location: ND | Sold a perfectly sound gelding a few years ago, just a super safe ranch / trail horse. Thought I'd found him the perfect home. Gal put all kinds of pics up on fb of her riding him all over. About six months after buying him she calls me wanting me to refund some of her money. He'd come up lame, vet said he was navicular and told her there was no way I didn't know the horse had issues. He was never lame in the year I owned him and I rode him hard. Told her if it had come up in the first week or two I would have stood behind him, but after 6 months there was way to many things that could have happened. |
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Location: USA | dawnb - 2016-02-28 8:21 AM
We sold a horse a few years ago and after the lady had the horse for a month want to return the horse because it would not dance with her out in the pasture like her old horse would. Told her that we weren't taking the horse back.
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | I have an odd buyer story! My fourth child was a big surprise, I am in my 40's and my other three children are in high school and middle school, so when I found out I was preganat it was a shock! Anyway fast forward several months I listed a Frenchmans Guy daughter I had that was 2D to 3D depending on the ridier pushing her, I knew that I would not be riding for a long time so I decided to advertise her so she didn't waste away in the pasture! I advertised her when my child was 5 days old, in the listing I said that I had a newborn and would have to schedlue around my husband showing the horse at my home. At 7:00pm one night I get a text asking if I could haul the horse to an arena 1 and a half hour from me that same evening! I said no that the lady texting me could come see her another time at my home! She text me several times that evening accusing me of not bringing the horse because something was wrong with it!! I explained I had a newborn and could not drive yet because I had a C-section just a few days before! She started attacking me saying I was not telling the truth and that I would not haul the horse to her because something was wrong with the horse! I told her just schedule another day that I was being truthful! Two days later she contacted me to come see the horse but it had already sold! She blew up and started blowing up facebook that I was a liar and doing bad business etc...she attacked every listing I had calling me a liar etc..... the horse sold to someone who had who had tried her before!! |
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| I was helping a high school girl sell a horse that she didn't get along with. She made the horse nervous at the gate and it was all her.
Nice horse did both barrels and poles, person approached us to lease horse for high school rodeo finals. Horse qualified her and she did okay out there and they decided to make an offer. We had agreed that lease price could go towards purchase price, since this all occurred over a 60 day period.
They were given a price at the beginning and of course they were negotiating for less. They didn't want me, the adult, to be involved since I thought a decrease of 500 was more than adequate
They hauled the horse for a pre purchase at the end of the 60 day trial. The horse was 11 years old and had been run since he was 4 and of course had some changes to the navicular bone. Mind you they had the horse for 60 days and never felt the horse was off in any way.
Negotiated another 2500 of this poor kid, behind my back due to the vet check. I had to pull into their facility before they coughed up the cash.
Bad mouthed me for selling a crippled horse - then everyone wanted me to find them a horse. They placed the horse in the top 10 in 3 out f 4 classes at the Congress about 2 months later.
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| My first very own horse I got when I was 15, was a beautiful registered TWH trail mare. I had her up until a few years ago but anyway I sold her to a woman who just said she spoils her horses, brought her carrots when she came out to look at her, said she would keep her forever, yadayadayada. I could tell she was a little eccentric but didn't know how much..we made a deal as well that if she didn't want her for some reason that I would get her back. My house where Lady was, was 2.5 hours away from where I live in my college city. The woman lived about 1 hour past me going the other way. She started Facebook messaging me a week or two later, didn't even call, saying her horse was picking on mine and wasn't sure what to do. Granted I get that but her horse was older and mine was a biotch and I could tell things were getting fishy when she started posting things about another horse she liked. She said she didn't want her and I had to come get her. Already frustrated by this woman who lied, I told her it would be a weekend soon before I could get her because I was at school. She got downright nasty and demanded I come get her now, etc or she was going to take her to a horse sale. Obviously livid and hurt, I had my ex boyfriend take time out of his busy schedule and pick her up and bring her home. She then tried to kiss a** and wanted to be friends. I blocked her. People are nuts.
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Location: Canada | I have a buying experience: I wanted to go look at two horses about 13 hours and 16 hours respectively away. I was upfront with both sellers that I wanted to try horse A first, then drive the three hours to try horse b and make a decision. If I wanted Horse B, I'd take it home then but if it wasn't a fit I'd be passing by Horse A and would stop back in.
The owner of Horse B starts texting me while I'm on the road confirming that I'm coming. I let her know that I'm on route and that I'll message her once I leave the first horse so she has time to haul her horse over to the arena (which was 30 mins away from her) and three hours from where I'm coming from approximately.
As I get closer I confirm again with both sellers that I'm on route and will be trying Horse A shortly. I drive down to try it and he's perfect, but he's also double the price of Horse B. During all this there is ZERO cell reception so as I start heading back towards the main route to go try Horse B my phone starts going crazy. It's the owner of Horse B calling to see if I'm still coming. She's emailing and texting me, and leaving messages like crazy. Her final email to me says something like "Obviously you were a waste of time, can't believe I took time out of my day to deal with you I'm putting the horse away and going home." This is THREE HOURS before I'm supposed to be there. She went off on me because she couldn't reach me for a couple hours long before I was supposed to be there.
She wouldn't return my calls so we decided to call the owners of Horse A and take him. So I drove back and picked him up and headed back home.
I'm about 1/2 way home and my phone starts going off. The woman is texting me she's sorry and she misunderstood and that if I came back to try her horse she'd give me a better deal. It's now the middle of the night and she's still demanding I turn around and try her horse.
I thought of it after... what if I tried the horse and didn't like her! I would have been stuck in the same building with that kind of crazy!!!
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