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| My gelding use to run in steel shoes then we switched him to just a plain aluminum shoe. It made a big difference but he still doesn't seem to get the slide he needs. He also seem to have a hard time getting up and out of the turn. Maybe not enough grip?
He doesn't usually have a probably with the ground and hardly ever pulls a shoe.
I've been thinking about trying the Razer shoes but have read so many reviews of soreness.
Just want some opinions on some shoes that you all use. Thanks! |
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| I tried the razor shoes last year actually. I heard a lot of bad reviews about them, but I really never had a problem with them. I just didn't notice enough of a difference to keep spending that kind of money on a shoe. I really like just a race plate aluminum shoe, toe grabs are a must for me! They really help to not float off the turns. Hope that helps a little :) |
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Location: Southern Indiana | St croix steel rims on front and plains on the back. Really never had any issues with this combo. |
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| TheDutchMan01 - 2016-03-01 10:12 AM
St croix steel rims on front and plains on the back. Really never had any issues with this combo.
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Location: North Dakota | I think it will depend on the individual horse.
My horse Red does well with steel rims on all 4 feet.
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| Horse in my profile picture had aluminum wedge shoes with sole pads on the front and regular aluminum on the back. |
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Location: Moving soon..... | Natural Balance aluminum wedge on front (my gelding has no heel) and regular natural balance on the rear. He moves much better. |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | St Croix steel rims on front and I like kerckhart sx7 on back. My husband is a farrier that specializes in barrel horses. So he sees these issues everyday-
Razor shoes- good concept but too much flex for most horses
Rims on hind feet - too much grab which causes hock issues in long term
Aluminum - too much thrush gets under them
Wedges - 99% do not need wedges unless severely navicular. The biggest thing he hears is "my horse doesn't grow heel." WRONG! The horse is shod wrong. Back up the toe and trim to proper angles and the heel will grow fine.
Natural balance - no horse should be wearing these for an extended period of time, especially if they are running in them. Can tear up tendons/ligaments. Lots of soft tissue problems are created. |
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| JLBerry - 2016-03-01 2:25 PM
St Croix steel rims on front and I like kerckhart sx7 on back. My husband is a farrier that specializes in barrel horses. So he sees these issues everyday-
Razor shoes- good concept but too much flex for most horses
Rims on hind feet - too much grab which causes hock issues in long term
Aluminum - too much thrush gets under them
Wedges - 99% do not need wedges unless severely navicular. The biggest thing he hears is "my horse doesn't grow heel." WRONG! The horse is shod wrong. Back up the toe and trim to proper angles and the heel will grow fine.
Natural balance - no horse should be wearing these for an extended period of time, especially if they are running in them. Can tear up tendons/ligaments. Lots of soft tissue problems are created.
lol You want to see a lame horse, take the wedges off that mare. She's been in them 6 years with some of the best corrective shoeing measures attempted. Still no heel. Not all horses can be fixed once you screw their feet up - this mare is an example. We have had her for almost 7 years, and she's hardly grew any heel the whole time - with hoof supplements, circulation medications, every tom dick and harry invention to improve hoof quality, this horse has had it, and it helps. It just didn't help her heels.
Any farrier who says they can fix every horse is a crock of crap and they know it. You can't make a horse's body do what it's genetics says it can't.
Also, never have any issues with thrush in my aluminum shoes, ever. |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-03-01 1:54 PM
JLBerry - 2016-03-01 2:25 PM
St Croix steel rims on front and I like kerckhart sx7 on back. My husband is a farrier that specializes in barrel horses. So he sees these issues everyday-
Razor shoes- good concept but too much flex for most horses
Rims on hind feet - too much grab which causes hock issues in long term
Aluminum - too much thrush gets under them
Wedges - 99% do not need wedges unless severely navicular. The biggest thing he hears is "my horse doesn't grow heel." WRONG! The horse is shod wrong. Back up the toe and trim to proper angles and the heel will grow fine.
Natural balance - no horse should be wearing these for an extended period of time, especially if they are running in them. Can tear up tendons/ligaments. Lots of soft tissue problems are created.
lol You want to see a lame horse, take the wedges off that mare. She's been in them 6 years with some of the best corrective shoeing measures attempted. Still no heel. Not all horses can be fixed once you screw their feet up - this mare is an example. We have had her for almost 7 years, and she's hardly grew any heel the whole time - with hoof supplements, circulation medications, every tom dick and harry invention to improve hoof quality, this horse has had it, and it helps. It just didn't help her heels.
Any farrier who says they can fix every horse is a crock of crap and they know it. You can't make a horse's body do what it's genetics says it can't.
Also, never have any issues with thrush in my aluminum shoes, ever.
I'm not saying you can fix every horse. Some are way beyond fixing. It's just that most people make it way more complicated than it needs to be. You don't always need "corrective" shoeing - just "CORRECT" shoeing. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Going from steel to aluminum is a drastic change of weight of his feet.... This may be leading to some confusion. I was most usually asked for rims or caulks on the front and flat on the back. |
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| I use aluminum race plates from Kerchert called kings plates all the way around. They wear good and I have had no problems. They have a big line of aluminum shoes if you wanted to put a shoe on the hind that was more like a plate and no rim. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | streakysox - 2016-03-02 7:57 AM rims all the way around
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Location: The Great Northwest | FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-03-02 10:54 AM JLBerry - 2016-03-01 2:25 PM St Croix steel rims on front and I like kerckhart sx7 on back. My husband is a farrier that specializes in barrel horses. So he sees these issues everyday- Razor shoes- good concept but too much flex for most horses Rims on hind feet - too much grab which causes hock issues in long term Aluminum - too much thrush gets under them Wedges - 99% do not need wedges unless severely navicular. The biggest thing he hears is "my horse doesn't grow heel." WRONG! The horse is shod wrong. Back up the toe and trim to proper angles and the heel will grow fine. Natural balance - no horse should be wearing these for an extended period of time, especially if they are running in them. Can tear up tendons/ligaments. Lots of soft tissue problems are created. lol You want to see a lame horse, take the wedges off that mare. She's been in them 6 years with some of the best corrective shoeing measures attempted. Still no heel. Not all horses can be fixed once you screw their feet up - this mare is an example. We have had her for almost 7 years, and she's hardly grew any heel the whole time - with hoof supplements, circulation medications, every tom dick and harry invention to improve hoof quality, this horse has had it, and it helps. It just didn't help her heels. Any farrier who says they can fix every horse is a crock of crap and they know it. You can't make a horse's body do what it's genetics says it can't. Also, never have any issues with thrush in my aluminum shoes, ever.
True! My gelding is underslung. He has been this way for 12 years. He was sore in the front tendons and x-rays showed he was at a too low of an angle. The thing that helped him was to wedge him and give up for heel. The heel grows but it grows forward. He has the shoe backed up front and back with 3 degree wedges front and back. I use the bar wedge and have for 10 years. |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | skye - 2016-03-01 7:08 PM
FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-03-02 10:54 AM JLBerry - 2016-03-01 2:25 PM St Croix steel rims on front and I like kerckhart sx7 on back. My husband is a farrier that specializes in barrel horses. So he sees these issues everyday- Razor shoes- good concept but too much flex for most horses Rims on hind feet - too much grab which causes hock issues in long term Aluminum - too much thrush gets under them Wedges - 99% do not need wedges unless severely navicular. The biggest thing he hears is "my horse doesn't grow heel." WRONG! The horse is shod wrong. Back up the toe and trim to proper angles and the heel will grow fine. Natural balance - no horse should be wearing these for an extended period of time, especially if they are running in them. Can tear up tendons/ligaments. Lots of soft tissue problems are created. lol You want to see a lame horse, take the wedges off that mare. She's been in them 6 years with some of the best corrective shoeing measures attempted. Still no heel. Not all horses can be fixed once you screw their feet up - this mare is an example. We have had her for almost 7 years, and she's hardly grew any heel the whole time - with hoof supplements, circulation medications, every tom dick and harry invention to improve hoof quality, this horse has had it, and it helps. It just didn't help her heels. Any farrier who says they can fix every horse is a crock of crap and they know it. You can't make a horse's body do what it's genetics says it can't. Also, never have any issues with thrush in my aluminum shoes, ever. True! My gelding is underslung. He has been this way for 12 years. He was sore in the front tendons and x-rays showed he was at a too low of an angle. The thing that helped him was to wedge him and give up for heel. The heel grows but it grows forward. He has the shoe backed up front and back with 3 degree wedges front and back. I use the bar wedge and have for 10 years. Â
lol....this is exactly what I'm talking about. You have move the toe AND the heel back to get proper growth. This is what no one seems to understand. I'm not talking about you personally...so please don't get offended. I'm talking about most farriers. |
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| Karol - 2016-03-01 12:40 PM
Natural Balance aluminum wedge on front (my gelding has no heel) and regular natural balance on the rear. He moves much better.
Mine is in natural balance PLRs with wedge pads. only thing that will keep him sound. Love those shoes. He is navicular though.... |
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