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jkrm
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2016-03-07 10:15 AM
Subject: Barrel Saddle Shopping - Jeff Smiths?



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 As soon as I get my one reining saddle sold I'll be looking for a second barrel saddle.  I currently have a caldwell max and while I absolutely love, love, love it I don't think my budget can afford another one, especially with the Canadian dollar to U.S. being so bad right now.  I sure like the looks of the Jeff Smith's they look like they sit you down well.  I tend to ride pretty forward (past english riding) so I need one that sits me down.

There is a Lynn Mckenzie double J (nueva?) close to me used I might try.  Anyone ride them?  

Anyway ideas?
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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2016-03-07 10:25 AM
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I don't own a Jeff Smith but I ran in a friends for a weekend and I have never rode in a saddle that I liked more than that one. Even a Caldwell didn't compare. It sits up upright, but still has a deep seat that holds you in good BUT allows you to get up and over your horse. I felt like I had a lot of feel with it and could position myself wherever I needed to be very easily. I sat in a friends Tami Semas made by Jeff Smith (didn't run in it) but I preferred the Jeff Smith version better. They are cheaper than the Semas, too :)

Very high quality leather. Once I get this wedding over with it is the next item on my wish list to check off :)
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2016-03-07 10:43 AM
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I have a Jeff Smith Mary Walker saddle that I love.  Really has a nice feel.  The descripson that wrapn gave above is what I like about my Mary Walker saddle.  Look up Amandaandleemulvaney on facebook and shoot some questions her way-I believe she has a couple for sale-maybe you could work out a try before you buy?? 
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Frenchie
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2016-03-07 10:50 AM
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I really like my Double J but have ridden in it maybe twice since I got my Jeff Smith.  The way they sit is just so correct.  Quality is there and price is right.  Highly reccomend. 
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ridejg
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2016-03-07 10:55 AM
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Is there a big difference between the Mary Walker's and the regular Jeff Smith barrel saddles? RS Saddlery have several that have caught my eye. 
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2016-03-07 11:45 AM
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i think there is quite a bit of difference, the "regular" jeff smith I sat in at RS was NOTHING compared tot he walker saddle-the cantle and swells are so much more secure on the walker.   
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ridejg
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2016-03-07 11:49 AM
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LMS - 2016-03-07 11:45 AM i think there is quite a bit of difference, the "regular" jeff smith I sat in at RS was NOTHING compared tot he walker saddle-the cantle and swells are so much more secure on the walker.   

That is interesting, thanks for your input! The "regular" Jeff Smith's the ones with the dark oil finish were the ones that caught my eye, over the Mary Walkers. 
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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2016-03-07 1:02 PM
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I think the Mary Walker saddles have improved in the last year. I sat in one a few years ago and strongly disliked it. Seat felt flat and there was nothing special to it. Now I see it says they are made on a BW tree and the seat looks very comparable, so it makes me believe they are more like the other Jeff Smith's that I rode in.

And yes, not all Jeff Smith saddles are one in the same. I think they still have their cheaper models as well.



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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2016-03-07 1:06 PM
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You can see there are subtle differences in the Mary Walker



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SmokinGirlie
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2016-03-07 1:15 PM
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I love, love, love my Tami Semas by Jeff Smith. I ride in other saddles then ride in my Tami and I fall in love with it all over again. LOL I'm such a loser 
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SmokinGirlie
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2016-03-07 1:17 PM
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This is what I was told about the Mary's compared to regular Jeff's

It's similar design best way to describe it would be it sits more down on the horse around the shoulders instead of more of a perching fit. It has less of a pocket putting you in a more forward position. 
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2016-03-07 1:23 PM
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I absolutely adore my Jeff Smith! I love the way it sits ME.

I ride a lot of different horses though, currently riding 5 a day and that 5 will be different 2 months from now. I will caution that it is not a saddle for every horse. Not that I've found a saddle that is, but if you are looking for a saddle for one specific horse I recommend trying one before purchasing.
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-03-07 1:32 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2016-03-07 1:23 PM I absolutely adore my Jeff Smith! I love the way it sits ME. I ride a lot of different horses though, currently riding 5 a day and that 5 will be different 2 months from now. I will caution that it is not a saddle for every horse. Not that I've found a saddle that is, but if you are looking for a saddle for one specific horse I recommend trying one before purchasing.

I loved the way mine sat me too.  I had two of them.  However as my horse got older it got a little too snug for him.  Still fit my young horses nice, but not my open horse, so I sold it them both.  Thinking about taking my horse down there and having another one built once I know he's done growing. 
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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2016-03-07 1:50 PM
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SmokinGirlie - 2016-03-07 1:17 PM

This is what I was told about the Mary's compared to regular Jeff's

It's similar design best way to describe it would be it sits more down on the horse around the shoulders instead of more of a perching fit. It has less of a pocket putting you in a more forward position.Β 

Thanks for sharing that! I always wondered.
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Burn n' Turn
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2016-03-07 2:24 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Mary Walker's supposed to ride similar to a Coats, since that was what she was riding prior to having her own made? I've always through her line through Jeff has somewhat resembled a Coats, but with her subtle twists..
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-03-07 2:44 PM
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If you are ordering one from Canada, be prepared to be waiting close to 5 months.

Neighbours of mine were told it would be 6 weeks, and it took just over 5 months for them to get it, they were not happy with the wait time, but they do love the saddle.
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2016-03-07 3:29 PM
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WrapN3MN - 2016-03-07 1:02 PM I think the Mary Walker saddles have improved in the last year. I sat in one a few years ago and strongly disliked it. Seat felt flat and there was nothing special to it. Now I see it says they are made on a BW tree and the seat looks very comparable, so it makes me believe they are more like the other Jeff Smith's that I rode in. And yes, not all Jeff Smith saddles are one in the same. I think they still have their cheaper models as well.

This saddle is NOT the "regular" saddle I sat in-this one looks much better-pretty sure they didn't have these at RS when I was there 2 summers ago.  I rode a saddle built on a coats tree when I was looking for a new rig and yes they do sit VERY similar-to me the swells on the walker are a little wider and you  sit more "down" in the seat than the Coats-however, I have no idea what Mary Walker was riding before she "endorsed" this saddle......... 
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cdnrodeo
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2016-03-07 9:19 PM
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cheryl makofka - 2016-03-07 3:44 PM

If you are ordering one from Canada, be prepared to be waiting close to 5 months.

Neighbours of mine were told it would be 6 weeks, and it took just over 5 months for them to get it, they were not happy with the wait time, but they do love the saddle.

I ordered a Jeff Smith C3 and I LOVE IT!!Im in Canada and it arrived exactly 8 weeks from the day I ordered it. They said 6-8 weeks. So I was pleased with the arrival time. The wait almost killed me just on 8 weeks, couldn't imagine 5 months. But.... don't fear ordering from Canada because it wasn't a hassle for me. Just a word of caution, ask them not to ship by UPS. But, that's a whole other story. Nothing to do with the store. I will second or third that it's best to try the trees on your horse before you buy. I would have ordered a wide for mine if I hadn't crossed paths with Chery last fall. My mare fit their regular tree best and the wide that I thought would be the right fit fell down on her. I was really surprised by how much room their regular fit has. I honestly can't say enough good things about the saddle tho. Im balanced, secure and I can get up out of it when needed. I haven't found anything better (for me). I feel like I found "the one" haha
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jkrm
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2016-03-07 9:52 PM
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cdnrodeo - 2016-03-07 8:19 PM
cheryl makofka - 2016-03-07 3:44 PM If you are ordering one from Canada, be prepared to be waiting close to 5 months. Neighbours of mine were told it would be 6 weeks, and it took just over 5 months for them to get it, they were not happy with the wait time, but they do love the saddle.
I ordered a Jeff Smith C3 and I LOVE IT!!Im in Canada and it arrived exactly 8 weeks from the day I ordered it. They said 6-8 weeks. So I was pleased with the arrival time. The wait almost killed me just on 8 weeks, couldn't imagine 5 months. But.... don't fear ordering from Canada because it wasn't a hassle for me. Just a word of caution, ask them not to ship by UPS. But, that's a whole other story. Nothing to do with the store. I will second or third that it's best to try the trees on your horse before you buy. I would have ordered a wide for mine if I hadn't crossed paths with Chery last fall. My mare fit their regular tree best and the wide that I thought would be the right fit fell down on her. I was really surprised by how much room their regular fit has. I honestly can't say enough good things about the saddle tho. Im balanced, secure and I can get up out of it when needed. I haven't found anything better (for me). I feel like I found "the one" haha

 Can I ask where in Canada you are? Do you feel the regular fit fits a wide variety of horses. 

If if my caldwell pro max fits both my current horses would a regular tree Jeff smith fit. 
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luckygirl04
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2016-03-07 10:11 PM
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jkrm - 2016-03-07 8:15 AM

Β As soon as I get my one reining saddle sold I'll be looking for a second barrel saddle. Β I currently have a caldwell max and while I absolutely love, love, love it I don't think my budget can afford another one, especially with the Canadian dollar to U.S. being so bad right now. Β I sure like the looks of the Jeff Smith's they look like they sit you down well. Β I tend to ride pretty forward (past english riding) so I need one that sits me down.

There is a Lynn Mckenzie double J (nueva?) close to me used I might try. Β Anyone ride them? Β 

Anyway ideas?

I love a Coats or a Shiloh. I'm trying a Shiloh right now. I think the contenders must run small. Coats is probably the best fitting. But I also like how this Shiloh is on the back of a horse and how I sit in Ut. I also like a Martin the seats run small on them too.
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