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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | Since when does $2500FIRM mean HEY LETS NEGOTIATE!!??? Since when is it the sellers responsibility to come off the price so the buyer can afford fuel to get it? Why does no one read the ads?
Was anyone else raised when you make a cash offer you are ready to hand over cash once offer is accepted not 2 weeks later...
Sorry had to vent, very frustrated |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | This will sound harsh, but it's really not intended to.
But if you sell cheap horses expect to deal with cheap people.
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | 1DSoon - 2016-03-08 5:44 PM
This will sound harsh, but it's really not intended to.
But if you sell cheap horses expect to deal with cheap people.
$2500 was a sample number not an realistic one... |
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| It is just stupid to price a horse at your bottom dollar. You always put extra on it BECAUSE people will ALWAYS haggle. Price that $2,500 horse at $3,500, then when they offer $2,500 you got your money, and they think they got a deal. |
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I just read the headlines
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| I don't think it's stupid to set the price and put firm right after. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | GLP - 2016-03-08 5:32 PM
I don't think it's stupid to set the price and put firm right after.
I don't think its stupid either.
Working in retail it amazes me what people try to haggle prices on. Especially working at the feed store. Everyone treats us like we are a car dealership and that we should be able to lower the price on everything. |
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Location: East Texas | 1DSoon - 2016-03-08 6:44 PM
This will sound harsh, but it's really not intended to.
But if you sell cheap horses expect to deal with cheap people.
What are cheap people? |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | livexlovexrodeo - 2016-03-08 9:24 PM
GLP - 2016-03-08 5:32 PM
I don't think it's stupid to set the price and put firm right after.
I don't think its stupid either.
Working in retail it amazes me what people try to haggle prices on. Especially working at the feed store. Everyone treats us like we are a car dealership and that we should be able to lower the price on everything.
Same here, I don't think it's stupid at all.
As far as the OP's vent... sounds just like normal horse selling' to me. |
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Location: Louisiana | FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-03-08 7:01 PM It is just stupid to price a horse at your bottom dollar. You always put extra on it BECAUSE people will ALWAYS haggle. Price that $2,500 horse at $3,500, then when they offer $2,500 you got your money, and they think they got a deal.
Not if you're my husband lol. When he prices one, it isn't because he NEEDS to sell him. So he throws out the number he needs. People know he is no-nonsense and they either pay or move on lol.
But, when he shops, he finds what he wants and if it isn't priced right he keeps looking. He hates to haggle!
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Location: Montana | livexlovexrodeo - 2016-03-08 8:24 PM GLP - 2016-03-08 5:32 PM I don't think it's stupid to set the price and put firm right after. I don't think its stupid either. Working in retail it amazes me what people try to haggle prices on. Especially working at the feed store. Everyone treats us like we are a car dealership and that we should be able to lower the price on everything.
We own a car dealership and we put "real" prices on our cars, and people get mad when we can't haggle anywhere from $1000 to $3000 on the price of a vehicle. It would be nice if we could, but we are making a living too.
To the one that mentioned "cheap people," cheap people are the very worst to deal with. They are the ones that have a very minimal amount to spend, yet expect everything for that price. In the case of a car, they want a $10000 car for $2500. We see it and deal with it every day. There are people who are truly very nice and only can afford so much, it is the not nice ones that buy the cheap thing, then they break something on it and expect you to fix. Recently from our lot it was a woman who purchased a $1500 car. Car still runs and drives great, does everything as it should. The woman, on the other hand, less than a week after purchasing it broke out the driver's side window and admits to it and wants us to pay for the repair. That is what "cheap people" are.
I'm a terrible haggler. If someone doesn't say firm, or says OBO, I feel its free game to haggle a little bit, but within reason. I guess I'm just adding to the vent too, and I understand what the OP is talking about. Retail can be great, but it can kind of suck some days. |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-03-08 7:01 PM
It is just stupid to price a horse at your bottom dollar. You always put extra on it BECAUSE people will ALWAYS haggle. Price that $2,500 horse at $3,500, then when they offer $2,500 you got your money, and they think they got a deal.
This - it's like a car, I NEVER expect to pay the sticker but that's just me. |
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| I had the opposite happen to me. I was trying a few horses at a brokers place, was not going to try one because of his history, ended up trying him anyway and loved him. I asked several questions the next day and the broker went up on the price a few thousand when I showed interest in him. |
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| Sounds like horse selling to me.
Whether or not you're willing to negotiate depends entirely on how badly you want to sell the horse, that's it. Everything in our barn has a price tag, the price and negotiability of it depends entirely on how badly we want to sell the horse at that point in time, some we won't budge a dime on, some we are pretty open to negotiating on but we won't give them away.
I don't like dealing with whiney buyers who think as a seller we should bend over backwards for them, but I don't mind being asked if I'll negotiate, worst I can say is no. |
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| 1DSoon - 2016-03-08 6:44 PM
This will sound harsh, but it's really not intended to.
But if you sell cheap horses expect to deal with cheap people.
Agree with this 100%. Also, I know 2500 was just an example, but in my opinion, if someone can't pay 2500 for a horse then they wont be able to afford vet and normal care for the horse if it gets hurt. You never know when you're going to get a 4000 vet bill!! (if you don't have insurance of course)
Edited by babbsywabbsy 2016-03-09 7:42 AM
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Location: Desert Land | FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-03-08 5:01 PM It is just stupid to price a horse at your bottom dollar. You always put extra on it BECAUSE people will ALWAYS haggle. Price that $2,500 horse at $3,500, then when they offer $2,500 you got your money, and they think they got a deal.
Some people don’t want to haggle and frankly…they don’t have to if they don’t want to. If someone wants to low-ball anyway, the seller has the discretion of not selling the horse to the jackass. If someone advertises their horse as $XX,XXX FIRM then the buyer should be able to use their common sense and realize that the seller is not willing to negotiate or else they would not have made a point to say their price was firm. |
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Location: Oklahoma City OK | GLP - 2016-03-08 7:32 PM I don't think it's stupid to set the price and put firm right after.
I agree. Certainly saves all in speculation and bargaining. There's nothing wrong with stating a firm, no haggle price and expecting it to be accepted (or not). |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rodeomom3 - 2016-03-09 6:27 AM I had the opposite happen to me. I was trying a few horses at a brokers place, was not going to try one because of his history, ended up trying him anyway and loved him. I asked several questions the next day and the broker went up on the price a few thousand when I showed interest in him.
My favorite broker trick is "oh the horse in your budget got hurt between the time you left home and arrived, but I have these other 5 you can try priced 2-3x higher." Weeeeeeee!  |
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Location: here | If price says firm and you cant afford it move on! |
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| I price my horses fair, so I don't budge on price and I don't waste my time with someone that wants to haggle. If you like the horse and it fits you, you'll pay the asking price. If you don't want to pay the price then maybe the horse isn't for you!
With that said, when I buy, i'll shoot out a price that's significantly lower and see if they are going to budge or not, if not than I determine if I really want the horse at that price, if they do then that's great! |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | FlyingJT - 2016-03-09 10:52 AM I price my horses fair, so I don't budge on price and I don't waste my time with someone that wants to haggle. If you like the horse and it fits you, you'll pay the asking price. If you don't want to pay the price then maybe the horse isn't for you! With that said, when I buy, i'll shoot out a price that's significantly lower and see if they are going to budge or not, if not than I determine if I really want the horse at that price, if they do then that's great!
This confuses me
you don't like folks to haggle with you, but you will haggle with them?
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