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 Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | So, over the past few days I have noticed comments from people who I know were feeding CurOst, that seems like they no longer are.
My supply is dwindling down and I'm having a hard time deciding if I should reorder or go with something else...something less pricey to be honest. Even just the Total Support is $120/month.
Buutt, I'm also scared to change since my horse is back! He looks and feels great.
Anyone use the Total Support at a half dose?
My underlying issues with him was immune and allergies, if anyone has any suggestions. |
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| Forefront Equine has similar products. And they are affordable. I use Equine Regen and Vitalize High Performance. I got tired of the same answer when asking what to use. The products did not work on my horse. And it's hard to diagnose a horse over the phone. They say that injections are not needed when using Curost. In actuality it may extend them but will not replace them. |
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I just read the headlines
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| I can't afford Cur Ost for all my horses, so my gelding is for sure never getting anything else. But I have a filly that showed ulcer symptoms after she had been treated for several months for them earlier in the year. I went ahead and did the Stomach for a month and am now trying the DePaulo ulcer treatment since it is so much cheaper and has some of the same ingredients. I already have 2 on Cur Ost and just can' afford to put another on it. I will update if anything changes with her. But my geldings turn around was nothing short of a minor miracle, so I will continue on with Cur Ost for him and my daughter's older barrel horse. If I could find something with the Curcurmine BCM-95 I might try it but I haven't and I am pretty sure that is what is helping me and my gelding.
Dr. Schell never told me not to inject my gelding with a hock spur, he just explained how the curcurmin attacks the inflammation that starts the bone spur process. The injections attack the inflammation at a lower point in the inflammation process. His feeling is that if you stop the inflammation at the beginning of the inflammation response, then the body is free to increase production of the ingredients for better cartilage and synovial fluid, at least that was my understanding. He, himself, has not had to inject since using his Cur Ost products.
My daughter who is a Chiropractor and has her BA in Biology with a minor in Chemistry, is also not fond of IA injections.
But, I know everyone is just trying to do their best for their horse. I have seen too many treatments work for some, but not all horses. There will never be just one answer supplement/treatment. It is just so frustrating finding what works for every horse and rider.
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Location: Midwest | FLITASTIC - 2016-04-01 8:38 AM I haven't switched completely. But I went from having 3 head on total to one on half dose of Pure and another on nourish for a soft tissue injury. I used the curost stomach to treat suspected ulcers and now use the Daupolo Excel for maintenance. Mine was purely for the cost. There are a few on here who will question the cost aspect because they only have to feed one formula, and that their horses hind gut is so healthy that they no longer feed as much feed etc. and that curost actually saves them money. I had to cut corners someplace because these folks are probably not paying 25.00 a square bale for quality alfalfa and grass hay. Lol I feed about 30 bales a month at 25.00 per bale. People in Midwest and northwest can get quality forage much cheaper. My gelding still needs injections so that factors in. So I didn't change all together but just targeting specific issues. Mr arthritis gets pure , and my soft tissue guy gets nourish. It's an excellent product no doubt and before switching i consulted Dr Schell about what to switch to.
If this supplement were more affordable, I would have tried it... but I can't afford it, and what I am using is working... so that's where I am.
I have been keeping an eye open for a less expensive curcumin supplement. My mom has been taking the pills (she orders them from Amazon) and no longer has to take NSAIDs for her arthritis. |
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 It's not my fault I'm perfect
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Luckily ??, I live in the frozen tundra and don't have to pay $25 per bale, nor do I have to pay an arm and a leg for whole flax or whole oats, so that alone let's me feed Cur-OST-thankfully!!
It is a leap, a scary one, and I'm so glad I took it. I'll find ways to feed it after what it has done for my horses, and especially since it eliminated anything extra that I thought my horses needed.
Dr. Schell is so helpful 
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| If it's not broke, don't fix it. Most products don't work on every horse. When you find a particular product that is working for that specific horse, why risk changing? Especially if there are health issues involved? The thing that stands out in your post is "I'm afraid to change because my horse is back. He looks and feels great". Is saving a few bucks worth the potential of going back to where you were prior to him being healthy? |
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It's not my fault I'm perfect
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | SKM - 2016-04-01 9:01 AM If it's not broke, don't fix it. Most products don't work on every horse. When you find a particular product that is working for that specific horse, why risk changing? Especially if there are health issues involved? The thing that stands out in your post is "I'm afraid to change because my horse is back. He looks and feels great". Is saving a few bucks worth the potential of going back to where you were prior to him being healthy?
Exactly, my thought process as well. After always second guessing, wondering if my allergy ridden mare could feel better, perform better, was I doing everything I could?? Hated having that in the back of my mind.
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  Whack and Roll
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Location: NE Texas | I will never be without the Cur-OST in my barn, especially after what it has done for me and my horse. You can also purchase bulk BCM-95 Curcurmin, as well as other bulk herbs, through Nouvelle. Just go to the bulk ingredients page under the products tab. |
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| I couldn't wait to try it. I have 1 with skin allergies and ulcers- could not get her to eat it! The other has skin and respiratory allergies. She did eat it but not only caught a cold with a snotty nose but also developed a cough too! I was shocked bc I thought it was to help with resp problems. So I took her off put her on antibiotics to clear it up. Both are now on animal element immune key- cheaper, so far its working, only has to be fed once a day and both will eat it! I will say I think Dr Schnell is right about some of this stuff with allergies/ulcers/etc but my 1 horse wouldn't eat it, the other got a cold/cough while on it and frankly its very pricey. |
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Whack and Roll
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Location: NE Texas | Oh man, hate to hear that, Donk. My horse was reluctant to eat it at first, but after a few days of creative mixing, he started eating it. I always warn people when they start the respiratory blends, that coughing and nasal discharge can increase. My horse coughed incessantly the first week of the double dose. I emailed Dr. Schell during that time frame out of concern, and he reassured me this was necessary to get the trash and mucous out of his airways, much like a pneumonia patient is encouraged to cough....only one way to get it out and is up and out. It was alarming at first to see the increased cough, but it began to dissipate the second week, and by the end of the 3rd week the cough was gone and hasn't come back.
Glad you found a program that is working for you and your crew is doing well. Lots of ways to skin a cat, that's for sure!  |
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | SmokinGirlie - 2016-04-01 8:48 AM Luckily ??, I live in the frozen tundra and don't have to pay $25 per bale, nor do I have to pay an arm and a leg for whole flax or whole oats, so that alone let's me feed Cur-OST-thankfully!!
It is a leap, a scary one, and I'm so glad I took it. I'll find ways to feed it after what it has done for my horses, and especially since it eliminated anything extra that I thought my horses needed.
Dr. Schell is so helpful
This is my case too...hay is plentiful around here and reasonable. Oats and flax are very affordable around here as well. So in the end what I am saving not feeding all the processed feeds it isn't that much more a month for me. The one thing that is good about here we live! |
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It's not my fault I'm perfect
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Herbie - 2016-04-01 9:50 AM Oh man, hate to hear that, Donk. My horse was reluctant to eat it at first, but after a few days of creative mixing, he started eating it. I always warn people when they start the respiratory blends, that coughing and nasal discharge can increase. My horse coughed incessantly the first week of the double dose. I emailed Dr. Schell during that time frame out of concern, and he reassured me this was necessary to get the trash and mucous out of his airways, much like a pneumonia patient is encouraged to cough....only one way to get it out and is up and out. It was alarming at first to see the increased cough, but it began to dissipate the second week, and by the end of the 3rd week the cough was gone and hasn't come back.
Glad you found a program that is working for you and your crew is doing well. Lots of ways to skin a cat, that's for sure!
Same, I freaked out and was so glad I was warned about the coughing prior. My mare was on allergy shots before so I thought I really messed her up taking her off them! So scary, but worth it. |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | I liked the Curost for one mare but it didn't do what I wanted for the other. I have a friend that swears the cooking process for GP is magic so I'm going to give that a try (its not very expensive so it's worth giving it a shot). My young one has stayed on THE muscle mass. I also gave Curost a shot for my dogs and I'm going back to silver lining Herbs for them it worked better for my little old Jack Russell. |
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| Yep I'm in southern CA. Quality alfalfa is 22-25 a bale. I can get junk, steamy, nasty hard alfalfa for about 18 a bale. I just love California. Lol oats, flax and all that are very reasonable. Just hay. And the bad part is, they grow it so close to here!!!! It's not like they have to truck it in. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | SmokinGirlie - 2016-04-01 10:10 AM
Herbie - 2016-04-01 9:50 AM Oh man, hate to hear that, Donk. My horse was reluctant to eat it at first, but after a few days of creative mixing, he started eating it. I always warn people when they start the respiratory blends, that coughing and nasal discharge can increase. My horse coughed incessantly the first week of the double dose. I emailed Dr. Schell during that time frame out of concern, and he reassured me this was necessary to get the trash and mucous out of his airways, much like a pneumonia patient is encouraged to cough....only one way to get it out and is up and out. It was alarming at first to see the increased cough, but it began to dissipate the second week, and by the end of the 3rd week the cough was gone and hasn't come back.
Glad you found a program that is working for you and your crew is doing well. Lots of ways to skin a cat, that's for sure!
Same here. My horse was already coughing during warmup, but it was a seemingly dry cough. Day 10, he came out from making a run and blew all kinds of horrendous gunk out of his head. Day 21, he made a 1d run. It had been over a year since he had done that.
Btw, I took a break feeding it mid winter to save some money. Wasn't worth it. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | I can't imagine ever switching from Cur-Ost. I use whatever the one with the highest potency fir inflammation is and holy cow. It works better than anything for managing Cash's KS. Way better than injections. I still think combining both would be ideal but haven't HAD to inject since starting nearly 2 months ago |
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Extreme Veteran
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| Has anyone tried THE inflammation formula? It's 20% off right now too. |
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Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | Thank you all!!
So it seems most have swapped because of cost, some bc it didn't work. I know it's worked for my horse. But is is pricey. That said, I have finally gotten to the point where I think I can manage him on just the Total and Adapt, he was on Stomach for 2 months, and has been on Immune the past 3 months.
About 6-8 weeks in with Immune I looked at him one day and just said WOW! He really is blooming.
We feed alfalfa and it costs me $16/day to feed 6 head. He gets about 1.5lb whole oats and 1lb renew gold once a day with his CurOst.
He has had such a quiet, calm energy lately.
I will look into the other supplements y'all mentioned, but I think I may stick it out with CurOst for a while at least. |
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Off the Wall Wacky
Posts: 2981
Location: Louisiana | SKM - 2016-04-01 9:01 AM If it's not broke, don't fix it. Most products don't work on every horse. When you find a particular product that is working for that specific horse, why risk changing? Especially if there are health issues involved? The thing that stands out in your post is "I'm afraid to change because my horse is back. He looks and feels great". Is saving a few bucks worth the potential of going back to where you were prior to him being healthy?
Thank you!
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Elite Veteran
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| I don't feed Curost, or THE, or any other manufactured blends. I have concocted my own blend for my personal use, using alot of the same herbs found in these products and some that aren't. I've done a TON of research on herbs. I've looked at other product labels. I've calculated the costs on feeding these convenient mixes to my horses and found that I can purchase in bulk and create my own. I spend approximately $150-$200 a month on bulk herbs for 5 horses. It does require a little more work on my part making their breakfast in the mornings but I don't mind because they love the herbs and are doing phenomenal, especially my gelding who had terrible allergies. |
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