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| Likes/dislikes, ever had it take the run out? Just got a bottle and was wondering what everyones thoughts were..
Also, can you give it orally and if so what is the dosage? |
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Location: Texas | Bump...wondering the same. |
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| Use it all the time. Can be given orally. Ask your vet for correct dosage. It does not take the run out. |
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| Ok great thank you |
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| sadly, I am the one who needs it. seriously |
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Location: western Nebraska | streakysox - 2016-04-03 10:15 PM
Use it all the time. Can be given orally. Ask your vet for correct dosage. It does not take the run out.
I have never tried it orally. Do you use the same or more as if you were iv?
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| doglady - 2016-04-04 9:23 PM
streakysox - 2016-04-03 10:15 PM
Use it all the time. Can be given orally. Ask your vet for correct dosage. It does not take the run out.
I have never tried it orally. Do you use the same or more as if you were iv?
Vet told me 3cc orally. I would check with your vet. |
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Location: WI | Yes, please check with your vet on dosage. I know Guanabenz is sold in different concentrations, so this is very important. |
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| I have read different places where you can give it orally so I called my vet and asked. He said it wouldn't be effective orally, but though the dose was around 2cc IM (he said he needed to double check)? I initially thought it was IV? I was speaking with the receptionist who was relaying the info, so maybe there was a mix up there. Yes, ace isn't as effective orally, but I still notice a difference when I have given it orally. |
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Location: Texas | Has anyone had any side effects using it? |
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| We have used it on several different horses. it doesn't take the run out, it just inhibits them from getting their blood pressure up and getting far too excited for their own good. Some people swear once you start using it, the horse will become dependent on it. We have never had that experience. We have found that once the horse learns that certain situations won't kill them, we take it away. We have never had ill-effects from it. |
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Location: Texas | LiftandLook - 2016-04-05 3:18 PM We have used it on several different horses. it doesn't take the run out, it just inhibits them from getting their blood pressure up and getting far too excited for their own good. Some people swear once you start using it, the horse will become dependent on it. We have never had that experience. We have found that once the horse learns that certain situations won't kill them, we take it away. We have never had ill-effects from it.
Thank you. My good horse got ran into and almost knocked over at a rodeo a few months ago and he gets really nervous anytime we're near the alleyway now. He panics anytime a horse walks near him now. My vet suggested it as an option to help him relax so he can learn he's not going to die lol. I couldn't really find much info on it to make up my mind. How far out do you give it and about how long does it last? |
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Location: Texas | Dosage depends on what MG you have.....most vets guess at dosage veteran barrel racers are best to lean on. What is your MG? |
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Location: Texas | Any drug you can give IM you can give orally |
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Location: Texas | mollibtexan - 2016-04-05 10:19 PM
Dosage depends on what MG you have.....most vets guess at dosage veteran barrel racers are best to lean on. What is your MG?
Mine is 4 mg/ml |
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| Tried it years ago on a blown up futurity mare who ran scared. I finally resorted to trying different drugs with her , hoping to convince her that she could run and still be somewhat relaxed. I had already tried everything I knew and had sent her to two different trainers who both liked her so much they each started her from scratch and got her back broke to death (as she was already) but no difference when the adrenaline hit. I had also tried natural, B1, magnetic and other therapies to no avail.
At that time, the only form it was available in was pill and I had to crush it up, put it in 10cc of injectable B1 (and B1 by itself had zero affect), and inject IV. It only lasted a few hours, but it is the ONLY drug that seemed to help. However , after using it twice, and the fact that I could see chunks of pill in the syringe that went into the jugular, I just couldn't use it anymore. Had there been an injectable form at that time, I might have given it more of a chance.
Never thought that I would resort to drugs but that mare was SO nice and SO athletic and SOOOOO fast with a wonderful disposition to boot. I could figuratively kill the well known futurity person who blew her up. |
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Location: the fantasy txdad married | I used it on a freak show. It was awesome the first time. Second time, someone got hurt and the race was stopped for too long and it had no effect by the time it was our turn.
I decided it was too much work to get the timing perfect. |
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Location: Texas | The full dose is 20mg. So try 2 1/2cc which will be a half dose. No matter what don't give more than 20mg. So if you have 20mg it's 1cc if you have 4mg it's 5cc if you have 2mg it's 10cc if you have 8mg it's 2 1/2. I use it sometimes on horses that try so hard they scramble. I might only give 4mg. |
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Location: Texas | Those numbers are full doses so to start out I would do a 1/2 dose. |
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Location: Texas | mollibtexan - 2016-04-06 1:33 PM The full dose is 20mg. So try 2 1/2cc which will be a half dose. No matter what don't give more than 20mg. So if you have 20mg it's 1cc if you have 4mg it's 5cc if you have 2mg it's 10cc if you have 8mg it's 2 1/2. I use it sometimes on horses that try so hard they scramble. I might only give 4mg.
And how far out do you give it? |
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