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Bear Reg. Dec 2007	Posted 2016-04-06 10:24 AM Subject: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
BHW Resident Surgeon Posts: 25352 Location: Bastrop, Texas	http://www.doctorramey.com/shake-rattle-roll/ Darn.....and now I expect to see a comment about someone's "personal experience" followed by clappy hands emoticons
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rodeoveteran Reg. Jan 2009	Posted 2016-04-06 10:41 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
I Don't Brag Posts: 6960	I am a skeptic too. However I did take advantage of their free trial. I stood on the thing through several horse a day before finding a way to keep them occupied and after they had gotten used to it. After a few days I stepped off, took 3 steps and something exploded in my lower leg where I had been stuck a few years earlier. I could not walk unassisted for the rest of that day. BUT, the ongoing sponginess and pain in the area that had persisted since the injury was gone. My best guess is that an adhesion had broke loose. That is the only real affect I could testify to, and that is a personal anecdote. I have considered (and still am) purchasing a used one, hoping that it might help my older mare on days off. Last year I went to 30 rodeos in 60 days, so the days she was home she just rested. Would be hoping the plate would help keep her muscles loose without putting more miles on her back. Anything else would be just shooting in the dark. But the skeptic in me has not spent any money on one yet. I too would like some quantifiable proof.
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babbsywabbsy Reg. Feb 2016	Posted 2016-04-06 10:44 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Elite Veteran Posts: 634	I always joke that my horses are getting their theraplate treatment when I roll over the bumpy things on the side of the interstate :D
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Bear Reg. Dec 2007	Posted 2016-04-06 10:45 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
BHW Resident Surgeon Posts: 25352 Location: Bastrop, Texas	I'd just get one, considering all the nice science and testimonials. They don't cost much anyway, do they?
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3canstorun Reg. May 2007	Posted 2016-04-06 10:48 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Hugs to You Posts: 7551 Location: In The Land of Cotton	I think they start at $3K and go up.
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linds Reg. Feb 2005	Posted 2016-04-06 10:52 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Expert Posts: 2531 Location: WI	I found this part particularly interesting. This is also the main claim for PHT and BOT. Let’s look at the claims. The first one, “increasing circulation” stands out as a big whopper. When it comes to blood, the horse is what’s known as a closed system, that is, there’s no exchange of blood with any of the outside surroundings. What the horse has is what it gets. “Increasing circulation” is such a commonly used bogus claim that I even wrote a whole article about it.
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rodeoveteran Reg. Jan 2009	Posted 2016-04-06 10:56 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
I Don't Brag Posts: 6960	linds - 2016-04-06 10:52 AM I found this part particularly interesting. This is also the main claim for PHT and BOT. Let’s look at the claims. The first one, “increasing circulation” stands out as a big whopper. When it comes to blood, the horse is what’s known as a closed system, that is, there’s no exchange of blood with any of the outside surroundings. What the horse has is what it gets. “Increasing circulation” is such a commonly used bogus claim that I even wrote a whole article about it. Buuut doctors are always telling me to apply ice and heat to injuries to increase circulation. The same thing with vets and trainers with all the ice boots, hosing, blistering, poultice and liniments. So what is up with that Doc?
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Griz Reg. Sep 2003	Posted 2016-04-06 10:59 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Industrial Srength Barrel Racer Posts: 7268	linds - 2016-04-06 10:52 AM I found this part particularly interesting. This is also the main claim for PHT and BOT. Let’s look at the claims. The first one, “increasing circulation” stands out as a big whopper. When it comes to blood, the horse is what’s known as a closed system, that is, there’s no exchange of blood with any of the outside surroundings. What the horse has is what it gets. “Increasing circulation” is such a commonly used bogus claim that I even wrote a whole article about it. Hmmmmm.... I have yet to cough up the money on PHT or BOT, but I'm always the last one on the bandwagon....
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Whiteboy Reg. Jul 2012	Posted 2016-04-06 11:04 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
That's White "Man" to You Posts: 5515	It has always reminded me of the old vibrating weight loss belts...yeah you know the ones.
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FlyingJT Reg. Jan 2014	Posted 2016-04-06 11:14 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Expert Posts: 1857	Thanks for posting that! I always thought the same thing.
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run n rate Reg. Feb 2007	Posted 2016-04-06 11:23 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Balance Beam and more... Posts: 11511 Location: 31 lengths farms	I often wondered why we spent a ton of money to have a air ride system put on our trailers to lessen the vibrations and then pay another 3K to put them on something that vibrates.... But then again, I can't afford either thing so maybe it was just my mind making it okay not to own.
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FlyingJT Reg. Jan 2014	Posted 2016-04-06 11:28 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Expert Posts: 1857	rodeoveteran - 2016-04-06 10:56 AM linds - 2016-04-06 10:52 AM I found this part particularly interesting. This is also the main claim for PHT and BOT. Let’s look at the claims. The first one, “increasing circulation” stands out as a big whopper. When it comes to blood, the horse is what’s known as a closed system, that is, there’s no exchange of blood with any of the outside surroundings. What the horse has is what it gets. “Increasing circulation” is such a commonly used bogus claim that I even wrote a whole article about it. Buuut doctors are always telling me to apply ice and heat to injuries to increase circulation. The same thing with vets and trainers with all the ice boots, hosing, blistering, poultice and liniments. So what is up with that Doc? Heat opens up blood vessels increasing circulation, Cold constricts blood vessels decreasing blood flow which decreases inflammation. These are proven also.... Edited by FlyingJT 2016-04-06 12:06 PM
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Nateracer Reg. Feb 2008	Posted 2016-04-06 11:30 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Miss Laundry Misshap Posts: 5271	rodeoveteran - 2016-04-06 10:56 AM linds - 2016-04-06 10:52 AM I found this part particularly interesting. This is also the main claim for PHT and BOT. Let’s look at the claims. The first one, “increasing circulation” stands out as a big whopper. When it comes to blood, the horse is what’s known as a closed system, that is, there’s no exchange of blood with any of the outside surroundings. What the horse has is what it gets. “Increasing circulation” is such a commonly used bogus claim that I even wrote a whole article about it. Buuut doctors are always telling me to apply ice and heat to injuries to increase circulation. The same thing with vets and trainers with all the ice boots, hosing, blistering, poultice and liniments. So what is up with that Doc? What I don't get about that statement is that if it's a "closed" system...then they shouldn't bleed when we cut the skin??? The horse still has capillaries, and they can sweat, which indicates heat from blood flow correct?? I feel like maybe this Vet is trying to say it doesn't increase heart rate?? IDK. I was confused by that statement when I read the article too. I know my PHT works wonders on me...I'm a believer! And my horse does seem to appreciate it!
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rodeoveteran Reg. Jan 2009	Posted 2016-04-06 11:30 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
I Don't Brag Posts: 6960	FlyingJT - 2016-04-06 11:28 AM rodeoveteran - 2016-04-06 10:56 AM linds - 2016-04-06 10:52 AM I found this part particularly interesting. This is also the main claim for PHT and BOT. Let’s look at the claims. The first one, “increasing circulation” stands out as a big whopper. When it comes to blood, the horse is what’s known as a closed system, that is, there’s no exchange of blood with any of the outside surroundings. What the horse has is what it gets. “Increasing circulation” is such a commonly used bogus claim that I even wrote a whole article about it. Buuut doctors are always telling me to apply ice and heat to injuries to increase circulation. The same thing with vets and trainers with all the ice boots, hosing, blistering, poultice and liniments. So what is up with that Doc? Heat opens up blood vessels increasing circulation, Cold constricts blood vessels decreasing blood flow which decreases inflammation. These are proven also.... I understand THAT. But according to the vet in this article, the circulatory system is closed so you CAN'T increase blood flow to a particular area.
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FlyingJT Reg. Jan 2014	Posted 2016-04-06 11:31 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Expert Posts: 1857	Nateracer - 2016-04-06 11:30 AM rodeoveteran - 2016-04-06 10:56 AM linds - 2016-04-06 10:52 AM I found this part particularly interesting. This is also the main claim for PHT and BOT. Let’s look at the claims. The first one, “increasing circulation” stands out as a big whopper. When it comes to blood, the horse is what’s known as a closed system, that is, there’s no exchange of blood with any of the outside surroundings. What the horse has is what it gets. “Increasing circulation” is such a commonly used bogus claim that I even wrote a whole article about it. Buuut doctors are always telling me to apply ice and heat to injuries to increase circulation. The same thing with vets and trainers with all the ice boots, hosing, blistering, poultice and liniments. So what is up with that Doc? What I don't get about that statement is that if it's a "closed" system...then they shouldn't bleed when we cut the skin??? The horse still has capillaries, and they can sweat, which indicates heat from blood flow correct?? I feel like maybe this Vet is trying to say it doesn't increase heart rate?? IDK. I was confused by that statement when I read the article too. I know my PHT works wonders on me...I'm a believer! And my horse does seem to appreciate it! We are a closed system and bleed????
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stayceem Reg. May 2007	Posted 2016-04-06 11:37 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Not Afraid to Work Posts: 4717	I personally did not like the human theraplate so I haven't had much desire to use it on my horse.
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FlyingJT Reg. Jan 2014	Posted 2016-04-06 11:42 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Expert Posts: 1857	rodeoveteran - 2016-04-06 11:30 AM FlyingJT - 2016-04-06 11:28 AM rodeoveteran - 2016-04-06 10:56 AM linds - 2016-04-06 10:52 AM I found this part particularly interesting. This is also the main claim for PHT and BOT. Let’s look at the claims. The first one, “increasing circulation” stands out as a big whopper. When it comes to blood, the horse is what’s known as a closed system, that is, there’s no exchange of blood with any of the outside surroundings. What the horse has is what it gets. “Increasing circulation” is such a commonly used bogus claim that I even wrote a whole article about it. Buuut doctors are always telling me to apply ice and heat to injuries to increase circulation. The same thing with vets and trainers with all the ice boots, hosing, blistering, poultice and liniments. So what is up with that Doc? Heat opens up blood vessels increasing circulation, Cold constricts blood vessels decreasing blood flow which decreases inflammation. These are proven also.... I understand THAT. But according to the vet in this article, the circulatory system is closed so you CAN'T increase blood flow to a particular area. I think he means long term... You can heat an area up and dilate the vessels and increase circulation but as soon as you remove the heat it will return to it's normal state. For injuries we ice to help decrease inflammation and allow the area to heal, but as soon as we stop icing it swells again, that's why we do it several times a day.
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cyount2009 Reg. Apr 2012	Posted 2016-04-06 11:47 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Expert Posts: 1898	Whiteboy - 2016-04-06 11:04 AM It has always reminded me of the old vibrating weight loss belts...yeah you know the ones. YES! From day one, that is what I thought too! Personally, I don't like to have my eye balls jiggled around, why would I expect my horse to like it?
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Nateracer Reg. Feb 2008	Posted 2016-04-06 11:51 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Miss Laundry Misshap Posts: 5271	FlyingJT - 2016-04-06 11:42 AM rodeoveteran - 2016-04-06 11:30 AM FlyingJT - 2016-04-06 11:28 AM rodeoveteran - 2016-04-06 10:56 AM linds - 2016-04-06 10:52 AM I found this part particularly interesting. This is also the main claim for PHT and BOT. Let’s look at the claims. The first one, “increasing circulation” stands out as a big whopper. When it comes to blood, the horse is what’s known as a closed system, that is, there’s no exchange of blood with any of the outside surroundings. What the horse has is what it gets. “Increasing circulation” is such a commonly used bogus claim that I even wrote a whole article about it. Buuut doctors are always telling me to apply ice and heat to injuries to increase circulation. The same thing with vets and trainers with all the ice boots, hosing, blistering, poultice and liniments. So what is up with that Doc? Heat opens up blood vessels increasing circulation, Cold constricts blood vessels decreasing blood flow which decreases inflammation. These are proven also.... I understand THAT. But according to the vet in this article, the circulatory system is closed so you CAN'T increase blood flow to a particular area. I think he means long term... You can heat an area up and dilate the vessels and increase circulation but as soon as you remove the heat it will return to it's normal state. For injuries we ice to help decrease inflammation and allow the area to heal, but as soon as we stop icing it swells again, that's why we do it several times a day. That's what I was trying to get at! I'm just not good at explaining what I mean.
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LabRat Reg. Nov 2009	Posted 2016-04-06 11:59 AM Subject: RE: A veterinarian's assessment of "Theraplate"
Extreme Veteran Posts: 364	Year after year, I see barrel racers pouring thousands of dollars in to alternative therapy, gadgets and treatments. All to which their horses continue to run about the same, with no drastic improvement. What's the cost/benefit factor? Peace of mind for yourself? What I guess I'm saying is a person sure can get carried away with the latest and greatest, and money might be better off spent on lessons and/or training as a way to improve their game.
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