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| I have the opportunity to lease a gorgeous mare that has great confirmation and a lovely temperment. She has done well in performance as well. Problem is that she has several lines of Impressive breeding. Impressive himself is 5 generations back, and of course she has been 5-panel tested, but I would never want to produce a foal that would be unwanted if for any reason I would need to sell him/her. Would you pass on a nice horse if it had Impressive bloodlines? |
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Location: Northwest Florida | Personally, yes. I've owned two before and both did not enjoy any type of forward motion! Impressive was 3 gen back on my two. So that's just a personal preference. I'm sure there are nice ones out there and I don't believe it would completely kill your marketability, but it certainly wouldn't help it. I do automatically click away when I see his name.
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We owned that guy until we lost him to a twisted gut when he was 18. He was by far the best rope horse I have ever sat on. He did not go to a rodeo or jacpot and not get purchase offers.
My husband has yet to find a rope horse to replace him. He was so steady a youth could ride him, but he knew when it was time to really work too, he just exploded out of the box, once you nodded and put your hand forward all you had to do was rope, same trip every time.
He had his flaws, like he was so muscled he really got tired fast doing ranch work.
Man I miss that horse.
Anyway, i would not refuse to buy a horse because of impresive, every line out there has fan girls and haters. |
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Location: IL | As long as she's N/N it wouldn't bother me at all. Too many people don't understand HYPP and that's the down fall. |
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Location: Deep South | Are you leasing this mare as a broodmare? To produce a foal to market to barrel racers? |
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| Possibly. I like the mare and she ran 2D times. I would breed to a barrel line I like with plans to keep foal. However marketability is important to me, because you never know and I don't want something you just can't sell. I am guilty of seeing that bloodline and moving on myself, so the decision is tough. However like I mentioned I really like the mare and so I did a little research. Impressive was mostly thoroughbred, and raced before becoming a halter horse, so performance isn't out of the question. She is N/N on 5-panel so genetic diseases aren't an issue, but would this horse be worth half of what a horse that say had Colonel Freckes or DOC Olena on the dam's side?
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Location: Texas | Not a chance. Spend your money on a mare with more marketable bloodlines.
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Location: South Central Florida | I would not bother me if it were that far back, and tested negative. Especially if the mare had performance documentation. Had great experiences with the only one I know of around here. He was amazing, I would take 10 of him. Won lots of money and never tested, but I didn't know back than. I guess we were lucky but if the mare was tested and ok, it would not turn me away. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | emsher - 2016-04-12 4:58 PM
Possibly. I like the mare and she ran 2D times. I would breed to a barrel line I like with plans to keep foal. However marketability is important to me, because you never know and I don't want something you just can't sell. I am guilty of seeing that bloodline and moving on myself, so the decision is tough. However like I mentioned I really like the mare and so I did a little research. Impressive was mostly thoroughbred, and raced before becoming a halter horse, so performance isn't out of the question. She is N/N on 5-panel so genetic diseases aren't an issue, but would this horse be worth half of what a horse that say had Colonel Freckes or DOC Olena on the dam's side?
You may have to keep the offspring long enough for it to prove itself. Once that is done it will sell just fine. If she looks that good, I would not pass if it is N/N just because of the name. |
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Location: Moving soon..... | I had one and he just didn't pan out. I have a friend that has a gelding that no one would mess with. They worked cattle on him when she got him. He has his querks, but he still gets a check everytime she takes him anywhere. He is a very solid horse. If you like her it's you choice. Don't go by anyone else thinks. |
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| merdth6 - 2016-04-12 4:21 PM
As long as she's N/N it wouldn't bother me at all. Too many people don't understand HYPP and that's the down fall.
^^^^^^^ AGREE!!!!!
I have owned a couple of impressive horses, if they are positive they are high maintenance and stress easily which is not really good for a horse hauling all the time. I fed oats only, anything high protein or something like that FORGET IT, they will seize up and they need an IV. Not fun. One of mine used to do it a few times a year. The other one did it about twice in 5 years. |
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Location: Idaho | I bought a broodmare 7 years ago, she is an own granddaughter of Impressive, she is N/N and she is amazing. Her comformation is flawless, she is thick, great bone and feet and had already produced barrel money earners. I looked at her pedigree being a perfect outcross on todays "running" bred horses. I've bred her to Stir N Up The Fame, which that gelding has only 13 runs and clocking 1-2D times at big races, and Ive got her 6 year old gelding by Dash Of Royal Gold who also is fantastic and just starting to run. I also bred her to Dats A Frenchman, and she had a to die for foal. At 20 years old, this mare looks like she is 10! I never looked at her Impressive lines as a problem, because her dam is a strong producer of the The Haymaker and she was N/N... as far as resale goes, Ive got everyone wanting my DOFG gelding and I could have easily sold her DAF colt for $6500 as a yearling. I do agree people will shy at it, but honestly, I've not had a problem and I personally really enjoy her colts. She is getting bred back to DAF this spring and then hopefully Woodbrige in 2017.
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Location: Mansfield, Tx | you are going to get so many responses here.. you need to make the decision...
If you don't understand the difference between N/N , N/H, H/H there is no reason to even breed to an Impressive breed horse.. |
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Location: Deep South | I would not waste my money on an Impressive bred broodmare with intent to market the foal as a barrel prospect. The interest just won't be there.
If you like the mare and intend to keep the foal, and she is N/N, then go for it. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | BamaCanChaser - 2016-04-13 10:33 AM
I would not waste my money on an Impressive bred broodmare with intent to market the foal as a barrel prospect. The interest just won't be there.
If you like the mare and intend to keep the foal, and she is N/N, then go for it.
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Location: Texas | my gelding is Impressive pretty far back. I wouldn't trade him for the world! He runs 2d times with more room for improvement. |
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| oija - 2016-04-13 10:47 AM
BamaCanChaser - 2016-04-13 10:33 AM
I would not waste my money on an Impressive bred broodmare with intent to market the foal as a barrel prospect. The interest just won't be there.
If you like the mare and intend to keep the foal, and she is N/N, then go for it.
This!
I also agree. I shy away from Impressive bred because of hard resale. I don't buy/sell often but I always like to know re-sale value is there in the event I needed to sell. Its not just barrel people either, I know many trail riders who wont touch Impressive bred horses. Although a lot of their reasons are due to misinformation or lack of understanding, it is the unfortunate reality. |
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | ....she has several lines of Impressive breeding".
This right here is likely to be an issue for a lot of protential buyers. The whole HYPP thing is NOT always the issue with buyers. Being N/N means nothing to those that just don't LIKE Impressive bred horses. Not everyone is "shying away" because they don't understand the whole N/N thing. They are shying away because many "Impressive bred" horses are so unathletic they can't get out of their own way, and/or are so slow they can't out run a fat man pushing a wheel barrel. Around here, people can barely GIVE AWAY youngsters that are "Impressive bred" especially when he is in the pedigree multiple times.
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Location: Northwest Florida | RacingQH - 2016-04-13 12:48 PM
....she has several lines of Impressive breeding".
This right here is likely to be an issue for a lot of protential buyers. The whole HYPP thing is NOT laways the issue with buyers. Being N/N means nothing to those that just don't LIKE Impressive bred horses. Not everyone is "shying away" because they don't understand the whole N/N thing. They are shying away because many "Impressive bred" horses are so unathletic they can't get out of their own way, and/or are so slow they can't out run a fat man pushing a wheel barrel. Around here, people can barely GIVE AWAY youngsters that are "Impressive bred" especially when he is in the pedigree multiple times.
Yes!
I'm not shying away from Impressive due to HYPP, because I understand the testing. If I were in the market for a foal, I would personally pass on an Impressive bred foal. There are too many good running bred babies out there with bloodlines that have proven themselves in the barrel pen. Impressive lineage is not exactly known for athleticism and while there are exceptions out there, people are going to want what is proven when it comes to buying a baby or prospect.
If you were breeding to keep there'd be no issues at all. Breeding to sell though, I would look for a mare with a more marketable pedigree. |
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| Thanks for all the replies. It answered my question. While I understand the N/N and know the health would be fine, at least from a genetic disease. The mare is beautiful and athletic, but like I mentioned before, I never would breed a horse that I couldn't sell, because you never know. I will not consider the mare as a broodmare prospect. This thread proved what I already thought, whether legit or not, the history of this line mixed with the mythology of it has made it one I don't want to invest in. |
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