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| My gelding has been fine with oral gel wormer until this year, now he pulls back and tries to flip himself over backwards before you even get it in his mouth. He was injured this summer and had to have oral antibiotics squirted into his mouth ever day for a long time and he hated it, but now he's gotten alot worse. Do you twitch to worm? And how can you correct this dangerous behavior? Thanks! |
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I just read the headlines
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| Had a filly that was really hard to worm. We had to do the desensitize thing and then she got a cookie every time she let me squirt something in her mouth. She is really good now. I hate cookie bribery, but it worked. |
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| My daughters little gelding hates having anything put near or in his mouth, he is awful to worm.. I learned to hide it, cause trust me, he watches me like a hawk. I set it to his weight in my tack room and walk to him with it behind my back, I pet his neck and mess with his mane, and then I stick it in his mouth quickly, before he even knows what's happening, it's done lol! |
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Location: Missouri | Besides training, I have used this: https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=1a3816d2-48a4-4913-a9be-f2f72d5cb347
Just make sure to let them wear it before and after, so that they don't associate it only with the worming process. |
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Location: Texas | I put mine in the trailer and worm thru the window. They can't get away from you there. |
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This works great! I have a mare that is absolutely impossible to de-worm despite all the training I could possibly do with her and it is as easy as pie with this thing. |
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Location: Where Tall Corn Grows | You could try filling an empty wormer syringe with applesauce and giving it to him regularly and when you need to worm, they are more relaxed with the syringe in their mouths and isn't such a fight. You might have to start with the applesauce on your finger and syringe in hand so he can see it at first,. Baby steps :)
Stay safe! |
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| My husband had a gelding that it was worth your life to try and dewormer him......tried Equi bits but he would not eat them....so my hubby drilled holes in some treats and put the paste in the hole and fed him the "dewormer treat". Worked for him but was a pain doing the holes! They were bigger treats so you could actually get a good sized drill bit to work. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Anytime your around him stick your finger in his mouth.
Eventually he won't even know the diff
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| my 16.1 gelding hates worming, i learned a stupid trick to make it easy for me to worm him, once i got him haltered, i take a lead rope run it thru his mouth, then just stick the wornerright in, there is always a little on the rope but when i do that and he doesnot fight me. anyone try the duct tape on the nose for that. |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | I had a mare that hated de-wormer and needles. I used a chain over her nose and usually the help of my husband to get it done. She had sensitive skin so the chain was more painful to her than the de-wormer tube.
Needles was a whole nother challenge............I kinda felt bad for her that she was so scared of them and that her skin was that sensitive. |
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| I thought mine by tying him very short to the trailer and filling an empty wormer tube with applesauce. I did this everyday for months until he stopped acting like a butt and now I can just walk out in the field and worm him without a halter or rope. |
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I'm glad this worked for you. I wish I'd had your luck. We had one that hated to be wormed so we tried this. After using it a few times he started refusing to have it put on. Also he started refusing his bit. Them we had two issues to deal with. :( I know others who have had good luck with these. Just didn't work for us. |
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Location: North texas | I have a gelding that was awful...worst I have ever had. As soon as he ever saw a tube, he would start running backwards, rearing, anything to get away. I tried tubes filled with applesauce, baby food carrots...I could not fool him. Then I saw this video from Warwick Schiller and used this method over a couple of days. I started just rubbing him with the tube on his neck. He would be running backwards and I just followed him and as soon as he dropped his head, I took it away. Repeat, then rub his face, mouth, ect. Take it away when he drops his head. repeat. They figure out really quick to make it go away all they have to do is drop their head. Then I use my finger to stick in their mouth until they drop their head. Pretty soon it is no big deal to put the tube in and worm them. I can worm my horse now in the middle of the barn aisle by myself. He was also really hard to clip his bridle path...he now drops his head low by using the same method.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qCZLjlBp9dQ
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Location: Kentucky | I cheat. I squirt the tube in their feed and they eat it up. My horses will eat anything, so much easier. |
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Cold hands and Warm Heart
Location: oklahoma | Murphy - 2016-04-27 7:23 AM
I cheat. I squirt the tube in their feed and they eat it up. My horses will eat anything, so much easier.
this^ and if nothing else, I mix a little molasses in there.mine would eat bricks if it had molasses on it. |
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Location: North Dakota | Chicken Fried - 2016-04-22 12:48 PM You could try filling an empty wormer syringe with applesauce and giving it to him regularly and when you need to worm, they are more relaxed with the syringe in their mouths and isn't such a fight. You might have to start with the applesauce on your finger and syringe in hand so he can see it at first,. Baby steps :) Stay safe!
This is what I was going to suggest.
Give him a TREAT every single day with an emtpy tube. Applesauce, molasses, etc whatever it is that he really likes. If he's to the point of trying to flip over on you, don't tie him and just work on desensitizing. Be patient. Get a little on his tongue so he sees it tastes good.
Pretty soon, he'll start nickering when you bring that tube to his mouth. 
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Location: Kansas | Chicken Fried - 2016-04-22 12:48 PM You could try filling an empty wormer syringe with applesauce and giving it to him regularly and when you need to worm, they are more relaxed with the syringe in their mouths and isn't such a fight. You might have to start with the applesauce on your finger and syringe in hand so he can see it at first,. Baby steps :) Stay safe!
Agree!!! Also you can do a feed through daily wormer as well. |
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| I have a gelding who is ok for some wormers, but is the devil for others. When I have to use the ones he doesn't like, I put a chain over his nose and run the lead up behind his ears over his poll and back down so when he pulls back it puts a lot of pressure on his poll and he drops his head again (usually very dramatically with a ****y ear twitch thrown in) and just shove it in his mouth when he comes back down.
He's too smart for any of the tricks, that bit looking one especially because he won't open his mouth for any bit but his old racing bit (which is a pain because I'd love to throw a snaffle on him when I do play around on him, but he just won't have it so I put a hack or just use a halter usually because the long shank twisted wire combination bit is a bit overkill for a trail ride).
I've learned over the years with him that its just nicer for everyone involved to get things done quickly in whatever way you can get it done - and it's never the easy way with him. Now shots are just a chaotic mess every time, but that's another story. |
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Location: The edge of no where | IowaCanChaser - 2016-04-22 11:53 AM My gelding has been fine with oral gel wormer until this year, now he pulls back and tries to flip himself over backwards before you even get it in his mouth. He was injured this summer and had to have oral antibiotics squirted into his mouth ever day for a long time and he hated it, but now he's gotten alot worse. Do you twitch to worm? And how can you correct this dangerous behavior? Thanks!
There's a million different approaches to solve this.....but I'd NEVER have a horse tied up while I was squirting something in their mouth. NEVER |
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