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Location: Somewhere around here | Tell me everything about them! Found one in my bit trunk and I don't even remember buying it!  How is it on turning, whoa, lift? How should they be used with your hands; dragging or lifting? And what kind of horses should you ride them in; hard runners, turney bendy horses, stiff horses? TIA! |
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Location: TX | I love my goosetree bits.
I would say it depends on the bit you have and the hands behind them.
I have one that is a short draw with a twisted once broken. I like to use for softening.
I have a long shank with the twisted dog bone and I like it for softening, lifting.
All of my horses are very flexable and sensative. I transitioned to them after they were broke and started on the pattern.
JMHO
Good luck, I think you will like it once you try it. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | Thanks! I've taken off my current bridle on my horse (correction) which he was great at home but became too sensitive to it going to jackpots. The one if found is a Dr. Bristol/dog bone one and I know he gets too loose in a chain so I'm thinking this could be good for us. I guess my only fear is that my horse is a hard runner to the first and I don't know if this would bring him back down and collect him? |
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Location: North Dakota | I think the goostree simplicity really collects one in the poll and brings them together nicely. It's been my experience that it will bring ones head back into your hands by flexing the poll. If you're worried about whoa, put a chin chain on it-provided you're talking about the actual simplicity like this (there are several other goostree bits I have the CG too):
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=7407edc5-d9f0-4d13-b098-2a957ab30a7e&sfb=1&itemguid=12ddd762-9a47-410b-ae27-f44245704093&utm_content=12979&ccd=IFH003&mr:trackingCode=9FF2A264-3C81-E211-BA78-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=plaonline&mr:ad=43737216523&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:tid=pla-176915089483&mr:ploc=9020932&mr:iloc=&mr:store=&mr:filter=176915089483&gclid=CPToxpS4scwCFQKTaQodX2UFWQ |
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Yep, just like that but with the dogbone. |
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| funny, I got my new bit last night! I tried my horse last Tuesday on the goosetree simplicity bit with the dog bone in the middle and he absolutely loved it so I got him one... He seems to be happy with it   |
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Location: Texas | It's a very light bit, use more of a lifting style with your hands.
There is not much woah at all, and it's hard to get lift at a full run. I prefer using this bit for slow work, it really helps them break at the poll. It is almost comparable to a plain o ring on level of lightness. |
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| Curious because my gelding loves the simplicity, but after a handful of runs gets a little "to" bendy. thinking about trying a different mouth piece or bit all together. its like he really like the fact it has such a fast release time if that makes sense. any thoughts?? |
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Location: Where the buffalo roam | I have 3 different mouthpieces and my older horse had always had an issue of blowing past the first so i took him out of an Ed Wright long shank and into the Simplicity with the dog bone and no chin strap - did not blow by a barrel the rest of his career. I use one or the other on all my horses and they work great. I do think that maybe my hands and this type of bit work well together. Some I ride with no chin strap or a light cord for a strap, leather chin strap or chain curb. I decide based on how they feel in my hands. |
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| Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2017-01-19 7:41 PM
Curious because my gelding loves the simplicity, but after a handful of runs gets a little "to" bendy. thinking about trying a different mouth piece or bit all together. its like he really like the fact it has such a fast release time if that makes sense. any thoughts??
I was having this same problem. Was having a ton of problems, and the first time I put a simplicity on my gelding and made a run it's like a light came on and he loves running in it. I was riding him in it at home, but the more I rode him in it, the more bendy he got (mine has just the twisted snaffle mouthpiece and no curb). I started riding him in something else at home and only running him in the simplicity and that seems to work really well for my gelding. I ride him in something at home that keeps him a little stiffer and upright, so when I put the simplicity on him and run, he has that little extra bend and he stays up (he had a tendency to drop and be too bendy if I rode him in it all the time). |
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Location: North Dakota | Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2017-01-19 9:41 PM Curious because my gelding loves the simplicity, but after a handful of runs gets a little "to" bendy. thinking about trying a different mouth piece or bit all together. its like he really like the fact it has such a fast release time if that makes sense. any thoughts??
IMO you can train the "set" back into them-a few roll backs to remind him to gather his body together without sticking his nose out and being noodle-necked. If you're not using a chin chain I would recommend trying that but still doing the roll backs....if you think you love the mouthpiece but need a little more stiffness after that-you can try the cg-still has the quick release and bend but also a little more "gather" A lot of times we forget the simple excercises that keep the horse together. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | Nobody - 2017-01-19 11:03 PM I have 3 different mouthpieces and my older horse had always had an issue of blowing past the first so i took him out of an Ed Wright long shank and into the Simplicity with the dog bone and no chin strap - did not blow by a barrel the rest of his career. I use one or the other on all my horses and they work great. I do think that maybe my hands and this type of bit work well together. Some I ride with no chin strap or a light cord for a strap, leather chin strap or chain curb. I decide based on how they feel in my hands.
Found this interesting! I sell these bits and thought they were too light - basically putting nothing in their mouth and needed a really seasoned horse. But stating you went from an EW long to this and had great results.....hmmmm......I may have to do some experimenting! |
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^^ this! |
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Location: Where the buffalo roam | I do agree with a previous poster that said they did their daily riding in a different bit. I have always just used the simplicity for competition and use something else for daily or tuning. My younger horses get ridden in something like the Ed Wright or a Jr Cow horse. Maybe that is why I never experienced the over-bending issue. |
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| I love mine. I use a German martingale with it. Right now I'm using it on a cutting reject that needs flex in the pole. It's not a bit I keep on them but love it as a training tool |
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| I have really liked using mine on my 3yr old coming out of the o-ring - only problem now is that the one that I have is too narrow for her and it is pinching the sides of her mouth, the mouth piece is the broken one with a little piece of chain in the middle.
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| Burn n' Turn - 2017-01-19 11:25 PM
Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2017-01-19 7:41 PM
Curious because my gelding loves the simplicity, but after a handful of runs gets a little "to" bendy. thinking about trying a different mouth piece or bit all together. its like he really like the fact it has such a fast release time if that makes sense. any thoughts??
I was having this same problem. Was having a ton of problems, and the first time I put a simplicity on my gelding and made a run it's like a light came on and he loves running in it. I was riding him in it at home, but the more I rode him in it, the more bendy he got (mine has just the twisted snaffle mouthpiece and no curb ). I started riding him in something else at home and only running him in the simplicity and that seems to work really well for my gelding. I ride him in something at home that keeps him a little stiffer and upright, so when I put the simplicity on him and run, he has that little extra bend and he stays up (he had a tendency to drop and be too bendy if I rode him in it all the time ).
I never ride him in it at home! I also use a curb chain. Normally st home he's rode in a 5 bit, or shank rope nose combo. It's seriously the bit! He's just weird!! I posted a thread about him earlier hoping for some good advice.
He loves loves the simplicity and the 5 bit so far. Everything else he'd prefer not. Bother I use have twisted wire. |
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