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Location: Somewhere around here | Have you even judged someone who was riding just by the tack or bit that they are using? I'll admit, I have in the past but now I just feel bad about it because I don't know their horse or their situation. I still don't like it when I see horses with nylon tack on them but but hey, to each their own.  |
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| cecollins0811 - 2016-06-01 7:08 AM
Have you even judged someone who was riding just by the tack or bit that they are using? I'll admit, I have in the past but now I just feel bad about it because I don't know their horse or their situation. I still don't like it when I see horses with nylon tack on them but but hey, to each their own.
When Charmayne James entered her first rodeo she was on a sale barn horse (Scamper), used a fuzzy saddle pad and nylon tack. This coming from a story she told at a clinic. One of the veteran barrel racers told her she didn't belong. She won that rodeo and 11 World Championships. I'd rather see used or nylon tack and someone with real try and effort than $500 tack set and no clue. |
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| The only time I really "judge" is if I see a lot of unnecessary tack or tack that doesn't fit right at all and that just makes me cringe and feel bad for the horse! |
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Location: Kansas | This is why people get such bad reps.....because all others do is judge another based upon appearance/tack
I frankly don't give two craps what someone else rides in as long as its safe.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Ill adjusted tack or dumb choices (like a tie down strap not run through a keeper), I judge them to be a beginner who doesn't know better. As far as nylon/leather/blingy, I do sometimes wonder how horses hold their heads up with all the gaudiness hanging off them.
I bought a hot pink nylon headstall for my daughter because she's not old enough to appreciate fancy but loves color, and I have run in it a few times because of what bit happened to be on it. Never thought anything of it because I started running barrels in the 80s.  |
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| I don't judge the person based on their tack or appearance, I do feel sorry for a horse who is sore or has an ill fitting saddle, but I cannot judge the person as I don't know them.
Even if it is the crappiest tack and they show up in the ugliest horse trailer atleast they are making an effort and hopefully having fun |
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Location: TX | I started out in nylon tack (yellow and lime green to be exact, haha) .. so I am pretty good about not judging. I don't know their situation and nice tack is expensive!! I eventually learned that paying more for nice quality leather usually works out better because it lasts longer and is easier to clean and maintain. I sometimes notice ill fitting tack and I feel sorry for the horse. If it is dangerous, I may nicely mention something to the rider and offer to help. Other than that, I try to keep to myself and only worry about my horse and what we need to do. |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | I certainly try not to but none of us are perfect. There was one case where I had to laugh with a guy that entered a local 4-D had an english endurance saddle on, but he also couldn't ride well enough to even get around the pattern at a trot, so in that case I almost feel bad for him...then again, maybe he was just out to have fun? Didn't know him so who am I to judge?
Bottom line, it doesn't matter what someone's tack looks like, what their rig looks like, or what they are wearing...it only matters when that clock stops what the time is. People are judgemental all over the place. If you ride good and your horse runs good, that's who I consider good competition. The nylon headstalls and open stock cattle trailers don't concern me at all. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-01 6:53 AM Ill adjusted tack or dumb choices (like a tie down strap not run through a keeper), I judge them to be a beginner who doesn't know better. As far as nylon/leather/blingy, I do sometimes wonder how horses hold their heads up with all the gaudiness hanging off them.
I bought a hot pink nylon headstall for my daughter because she's not old enough to appreciate fancy but loves color, and I have run in it a few times because of what bit happened to be on it. Never thought anything of it because I started running barrels in the 80s.
I guess I'm a beginner then.... I don't run my tie down thru a keeper strap. I guess that's why people shouldn't judge others.
Ive never had an issue with anyone's tack, unless of course, the way it's fitted could become dangerous. However I don't find that as being judgemental so much as concerned for safety.
We sold a gelding recently and the guy that came to buy him had a decent saddle that fit him. However, his saddle pad was a thin, fleece type that clearly didn't offer enough cushion around the horses withers. My husband mentioned that he may consider buying a new pad. Instead of wondering if he would indeed buy one, we dug out a decent pad and sent it with.
If we are going to judge on tack sets, we may as well start judging on everyone's horses color. It is really beside the point unless it's unsafe. |
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Location: WI | No judging here! We all started somewhere and no two paths are the same :-) |
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Location: The edge of no where | Only time I notice tack is if it's unsafe or needs adjusted. I know a few trainers that swear by nylon headstalls especially for schooling. Might not mean they're cheap, but they're less upkeep than leather and won't break. Josey's used to strongly advocate using nylon for this reason. After growing up horseshowing, I have a strong distaste for judging on appearances, it's snobby....and appearances will fool you. |
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| LOL I don't Judge, but being a guy I do NOT want BLING...... I had to special order a saddle because it seems ALL of them are just to Blingy these days!!! I need to be worrying about my run, not if I'm leaving a Serovsky crystal at the 3rd barrel. lol |
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | I don't care if I'm judged by others....my saddle is borrowed from a friend but it fits my horse well, my breast collar my SO bought me from a Pawn Shop because I wanted it- it was heavy leather with buffalo nickels on it and it cost $15, my saddle pad is one my son won running barrels, I paid the $300+ for a CSI pad but my horse bucked. If I worried about what everyone else thought about me, my horse or my tack, I might just stay home but.....its my money and I will spend it how I choose, even if its one entry fees.
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Location: Moving soon..... | Personally I do not judge for any reason. I feel if that person likes what they have that's their business, not mine. JMO |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | The only time I have ever judged someone based on their tack was last year when a horse came screaming into the arena in a tie down, brain chain (NOT a bohnet... an honest to goodness chain that went up over the poor guys ears and down in an x across his face and around his chin), and big long combination bit. and guess what? he went up the wall, even with all that. The poor horse couldnt even move his head he was so tied down and confined :( I don't feel like a witch saying that all of that is unnecessary... if you need all that to control your horse, go back to the practice pen and get him broke. or find him a new job that he enjoys.
I run my 16.1hh freight train of a horse in a sweet six. no tie down, no big warm up bit... I've had girls make snarky comments about how i'm going to get around the barrels with nothing in her mouth. last week we ran at a rodeo where first barrel is in no mans land. I'm gonna say 90% of the horses ran off going into first. My mare screamed in there and turned it. In a sweet 6 ;) Judge on! People will judge no matter what. Sad but true. |
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| Nope, sure don't. $800 tack sets don't win you more checks than $100 sets.
I could careless if someone is using a nylon headstall. I bought a couple just because they're cheap and it's something to put my extra bits on so I don't have to be looking for a screwdriver (because they disappear like scissors do!) just to change out a bit on a headstall. Usually the bits I have on them are ones I use at home, but if I have to make a run in one I sure don't care to put it on a fancy headstall at a race just because someone might not like it.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | When I started out, it was at horse shows. This is exactly why I still can't stand judged events. The clock don't care what you look like! |
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Location: Canada | I'll notice ill fitting or dangerous tack (a back cinch hanging low enough to catch a foot or one not connected to the front cinch) but I don't really notice whether the tack is high end or bargain based.
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-06-01 9:03 AM
LOL I don't Judge, but being a guy I do NOT want BLING...... I had to special order a saddle because it seems ALL of them are just to Blingy these days!!! I need to be worrying about my run, not if I'm leaving a Serovsky crystal at the 3rd barrel. lol
I love bling, If I cant blind them with speed my tack will get the job done
I would imagine it is very difficult to find bling-less barrel tack! I am surprised there is not more of a man marked line, more and more men are running barrels, and I think that's awesome!
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ~BINGO~ - 2016-06-01 9:44 AM Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-01 6:53 AM Ill adjusted tack or dumb choices (like a tie down strap not run through a keeper), I judge them to be a beginner who doesn't know better. As far as nylon/leather/blingy, I do sometimes wonder how horses hold their heads up with all the gaudiness hanging off them.
I bought a hot pink nylon headstall for my daughter because she's not old enough to appreciate fancy but loves color, and I have run in it a few times because of what bit happened to be on it. Never thought anything of it because I started running barrels in the 80s.
Ive never had an issue with anyone's tack, unless of course, the way it's fitted could become dangerous. However I don't find that as being judgemental so much as concerned for safety.
We sold a gelding recently and the guy that came to buy him had a decent saddle that fit him. However, his saddle pad was a thin, fleece type that clearly didn't offer enough cushion around the horses withers. My husband mentioned that he may consider buying a new pad. Instead of wondering if he would indeed buy one, we dug out a decent pad and sent it with.
If we are going to judge on tack sets, we may as well start judging on everyone's horses color. It is really beside the point unless it's unsafe.
The tie down thing is about safety. If you had ever seen a horse get their leg over it you would start using a keeper or a neck strap or something to hold it up. |
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