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| I have a 4 year old that if you leave sitting for 2 DAYS he has to be lunged before riding again. He will break in two with the saddle and just has to work himself out of it. Once you lunge him for about 10 minutes, he rides great. He's had 176 rides now. Is this little jerk going to be like this forever? Do some come out of it?
I've listed him for sale because I'm in college. I don't have to sell him and kind of hate to because I love this colt...when he gives you a good ride, its better than anything I've ridden. He rides around like a little reiner. Is there a market for these horses? I wouldn't image anyone buying anything they KNOW is cold backed...and I'm too honest of a person to sell him without letting potential buyers know like he was sold to me. Everyone inquiring immediately runs when I tell them. I don't blame them! |
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| I had one that was cold-backed. Sometimes I could longe him for 2 minutes and other days it took 15 minutes. I just sold him - I raised him from the day he hit the ground and he's 8 - and still cold-backed. I just don't have time for that and I was brutally honest and up front about it. I practically gave him away because I sure as heck wouldn't pay for a cold backed horse. He is doing AWESOME with his new owner - and she doesn't mind longing him first. Good luck. |
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Location: Texas | I have one similar to him. If you leave him sit for more than a week it's best to lunge him for 10 minutes or so. Sometimes he breaks in 2 other times he just jumps up. I knowingly bought him knowing this. The girl I got him from was completely honest and upfront a out his quirks. I'm sure that turned a lot of people off and I am glad because I got one heck of a horse at a heck of a price. I just loved how he rode. He is so light and floats across the pen and has a gargantuan stride that is smooth as silk. Like I said great horse on at a great price. |
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Location: Mountains of VA | Cold backed or cinchy.............I think too many times trainers/riders want to cinch up too tight too quickly.....this lead to a horse being deemed a rogue or coldbacked.
I'm wondering if all the modern breeding for race breds/barrel horses is leading to a more sensitive horse similiar to a TB race horse not the dead horse QH of days gone by.
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| I was calling him cinchy but hes fine tacking at the trailer and will stand all day with the saddle. Its when hes asked to move out that he jumps. Whatever it is, it can sure make people think you're crazy when you step on em.  |
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Location: Aubrey, Texas | The best horse I ever owned was like that- if you didn't ride her for 2 days, watch out! She wasn't cinchy, it was something about the transition from standing still to taking that first step. She was very athletic and COULD buck! A kid who rode polo-ponies taught me how to get around her- he had me put my left foot in the stirrup like I was going to get on, then get her to walk while I swung on. I looked like a gunsel, letting my horse walk before I was completely on, but somehow being able to move first flipped a switch in her brain. I got to where I used the momentum to help me swing up. It took me a long time after I quit riding her to break the habit- one that can really buck will make a believer out of you! |
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| I had a cold back horse. Every time I got on him he bucked. You could lung him for hours before you got on and he was fine-----until you got on. He just loved to buck. He bucked in the pasture every day. I guess if I had been afraid of him it might have been a problem but I wasn't. He was the horse to beat around here for years. I am sure he is on someone's top bucking string in heaven now. I bought him as a two year old and put him down at 27. By the way his name was Hornet. Laughing |
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Location: Missouri | Mine is six and has finally outgrown those stunts. No foundation bred ponies around here again. I'm not cowgirl enough. Lol! |
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Location: southeast Texas | Very possibly a PSSM horse. |
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| kissing spine is what we found on our cold backed horse |
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| Both of my husband's rope horses are cold backed, the one we bought willingly knowing he was and the other one just never grew out of it. They have both been x-rayed and vet checked for soreness and they are both tip top. It is quirk that we deal with because both of them will work themselves into the ground after they are warmed up. The one is 11 and the one is 9 so it is just something that we deal with . The one we bought willingly knowing he was cold backed ended up being a super horse for a super price. |
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| I had a 4 year old son of SLL that would try to buck when you first got on if he had been in a stall or locked up for more than about 24 hours. He was super broke, so I could just pick up his head and go on, but it was the fact that he tried it. This colt was on a pretty strenuous exercise program, so not only did he feel good, he was in shape! Haha! I did notice when I started turning him out more he wouldn't get as silly when I got on him. I am not sure of your stalling/turnout situation but it seemed to help him. I have known a lot of young horses that grew out of it, they just get fresh and goofy when they have been locked up or haven't gotten any exercise for a day or 2. If you really like him, maybe don't give up on him quite yet. Good Luck! |
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| jbw tx mom - 2016-06-23 10:02 AM
kissing spine is what we found on our cold backed horse
Hes got clean xrays of back, hocks, and stifles. No soundness issues here. |
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| Lph88311 - 2016-06-23 10:57 AM
I had a 4 year old son of SLL that would try to buck when you first got on if he had been in a stall or locked up for more than about 24 hours. He was super broke, so I could just pick up his head and go on, but it was the fact that he tried it. This colt was on a pretty strenuous exercise program, so not only did he feel good, he was in shape! Haha! I did notice when I started turning him out more he wouldn't get as silly when I got on him. I am not sure of your stalling/turnout situation but it seemed to help him. I have known a lot of young horses that grew out of it, they just get fresh and goofy when they have been locked up or haven't gotten any exercise for a day or 2. If you really like him, maybe don't give up on him quite yet. Good Luck!
I board so its a little difficult. He is in a run during the day and out on acreage with other horses at night. I try to work him daily but been having some saddle fit issues so been waiting to find a good saddle that fits. Hoping to get that tomorrow (well yesterday but USPS sucks) and we can get back to riding. |
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| abrad12 - 2016-06-23 12:25 PM
Lph88311 - 2016-06-23 10:57 AM
I had a 4 year old son of SLL that would try to buck when you first got on if he had been in a stall or locked up for more than about 24 hours. He was super broke, so I could just pick up his head and go on, but it was the fact that he tried it. This colt was on a pretty strenuous exercise program, so not only did he feel good, he was in shape! Haha! I did notice when I started turning him out more he wouldn't get as silly when I got on him. I am not sure of your stalling/turnout situation but it seemed to help him. I have known a lot of young horses that grew out of it, they just get fresh and goofy when they have been locked up or haven't gotten any exercise for a day or 2. If you really like him, maybe don't give up on him quite yet. Good Luck!
I board so its a little difficult. He is in a run during the day and out on acreage with other horses at night. I try to work him daily but been having some saddle fit issues so been waiting to find a good saddle that fits. Hoping to get that tomorrow (well yesterday but USPS sucks ) and we can get back to riding.
Totally understandable. Maybe the new saddle will help :)
**One thing I wanted to add.....my gelding wasn't ever out to hurt anyone, he would just get fresh and want to play. If you think your horse is bucking to be "mean" then that could bring different factors to the table.**
Edited by Lph88311 2016-06-23 12:56 PM
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Location: IL | I had one, I treated for ulcers and all of that stopped. |
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| Could be a variety of things. Ulcers, sore back from your saddle, sensitive to the girth you're using, kissing spine, I can go on and on, or just a plain ole brat. I've had one for many years that is a total angel while saddling but if you do not lunge him before you ride him every single time he will buck and we have never found anything wrong with him. I've had him since he was 6, he's 27 now and still must be lunged every time you ride (which isn't too often anymore because let's face it, he's 27 haha, he's still sound though) or he will buck. I will lunge him in a halter and lead rope, couple circles each way no big deal, then hop on and ride him in a halter bareback and he's fine, it's so weird. Hey, they all have their quirks and some of them are just weirdos. If you are trying to sell him and had him checked out for everything, just be honest. Sometimes they grow out of it and sometimes they just don't like my guy. I don't mind lunging one before I ride, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another cold backed horse as long as there's nothing wrong with them physically.
Edited because I accidentally called your horse a "her"
Edited by babbsywabbsy 2016-06-23 1:42 PM
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Location: So. California | I would test for PSSM1 and try changing to the PSSM diet. Low startch, high fat and more turnout time.
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| I got my new Marlene Mcrae flex tree in today and it fit him like a GLOVE (hes been a really hard to fit guy). He's had 6 days off and didn't even think about bucking! I'm really hoping he stays comfortable and it wasn't just a fluke thing. Typically, he would have gone buck wild. Saddle fit really does make a difference. |
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