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Rustynailfl
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2016-06-29 2:10 PM
Subject: Joint Supplements...




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...that work!?

What have you had success with? I'm not good with injections so would need to be paste or feed through.

Thank you!!
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Cowgirl Kat
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2016-06-29 3:53 PM
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I do Adequan, Legend and THE JointFLEX. I'm happy with the results. My horses feel great and look great
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-06-29 3:58 PM
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Oral joint supplements are so hit and miss. If your not good with injections in would maybe see if someone could help you give the shots your horse needs. Adequan is what I use if a horse doesn't have any real issues and as preventative. Polyglycan is my absolute favorite. Give it every 2 weeks and it's very effective. In my opinion or joint supplements are just not money well spent. Pentosan is also a great option !
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Katie's
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2016-06-29 4:54 PM
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I am a big fan of Tight Joints Plus!  I've seen first hand results with my own older horse and have been super happy with it.  Affordable as well.  
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Rustynailfl
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2016-06-29 5:00 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2016-06-29 4:58 PM

Oral joint supplements are so hit and miss. If your not good with injections in would maybe see if someone could help you give the shots your horse needs. Adequan is what I use if a horse doesn't have any real issues and as preventative. Polyglycan is my absolute favorite. Give it every 2 weeks and it's very effective. In my opinion or joint supplements are just not money well spent. Pentosan is also a great option !

I would love to stick with an injectable, but unfortunately I don't have anyone reliable enough to help me on a regular basis. I don't want to have to rely on someone
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07milch
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2016-06-29 8:20 PM
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I was just talking to my sports medicine vet the other day about joint supplements. She is very particular about what she recommends, won't do it unless she has seen proven results. Apparently she has seen huge results here recently with a new one called Epiitalis by 4cyte.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2016-06-29 9:22 PM
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I have a 37 year old gelding and I can tell when he hasn't had it. Plus all 5 of mine will eat it right out of my hand. We think it's good stuff!
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2016-06-29 10:03 PM
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Chandler's Mom - 2016-06-29 7:22 PM Platinum CJ I have a 37 year old gelding and I can tell when he hasn't had it. Plus all 5 of mine will eat it right out of my hand. We think it's good stuff!

 Do you feed 1 or 2 scoops per day?
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2016-06-30 10:10 AM
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Polyglycan and just starting feeding EquiThrive and LOVE LOVE the results!
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cowgirl1b
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-06-30 10:34 AM
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I have used Equine Omega Complete for years and have had the best success.

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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-06-30 10:37 AM
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I'm a Cur-OST fan for much more than just joint protection.  Inflammation is what causes joint soreness and arthritic changes....manage the inflammation, manage the pain, reduce the rate at which arthritic changes occur.  I'm not against polyglycan, adequan, legends, to supplement if needed, but so far I have not had a need to.   http://www.nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/articles/390-joint-dysfunction-are-injections-the-only-solution
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-06-30 11:25 AM
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Mainer-racer - 2016-06-30 8:10 AM

Polyglycan and just starting feeding EquiThrive and LOVE LOVE the results!

LOVE the Poly as well!!!
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CE's wrapn3
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2016-06-30 11:25 AM
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Anyone use Lubricyn?
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2016-06-30 11:53 AM
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I was just talking about this question this morning with a customer. You hear a lot about what works and what does not. This depends on what the real problem is. I don't think there is one feed through that addresses all joint problems because there can be a number of reasons that the problem exists. If a range of motion restriction exists because there is excess wear on the joint cartilage lining, then a feed through that increases the viscosity of synovial fluid to better lubricate the joint can be of value. If the problem is inflammation caused by arthritic changes, then the same product may be of less value, or need a anti-inflammatory ingredient fed along with it to produce results. This is the reason that threads like this get the wide variation of response that they do. Different causes for the same apparent lameness. I have done actual clinical studies on this. I do not sell a flex or joint care product. My opinion is that a combination of products, one that is anti-inflammatory, and one that supports synovial fluid quality produce the best result when used together.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2016-06-30 12:02 PM
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winwillows - 2016-06-30 11:53 AM

I was just talking about this question this morning with a customer. You hear a lot about what works and what does not. This depends on what the real problem is. I don't think there is one feed through that addresses all joint problems because there can be a number of reasons that the problem exists. If a range of motion restriction exists because there is excess wear on the joint cartilage lining, then a feed through that increases the viscosity of synovial fluid to better lubricate the joint can be of value. If the problem is inflammation caused by arthritic changes, then the same product may be of less value, or need a anti-inflammatory ingredient fed along with it to produce results. This is the reason that threads like this get the wide variation of response that they do. Different causes for the same apparent lameness. I have done actual clinical studies on this. I do not sell a flex or joint care product. My opinion is that a combination of products, one that is anti-inflammatory, and one that supports synovial fluid quality produce the best result when used together.

If you have a horse that has a small spur on the back of his hock, what would you do? Vet said to give Adequan and I am feeding an anti-inflammatory. I have had one vet say just to do the anti-inflammatory and another the Adequan only.
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-06-30 12:26 PM
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GLP - 2016-06-30 10:02 AM

winwillows - 2016-06-30 11:53 AM

I was just talking about this question this morning with a customer. You hear a lot about what works and what does not. This depends on what the real problem is. I don't think there is one feed through that addresses all joint problems because there can be a number of reasons that the problem exists. If a range of motion restriction exists because there is excess wear on the joint cartilage lining, then a feed through that increases the viscosity of synovial fluid to better lubricate the joint can be of value. If the problem is inflammation caused by arthritic changes, then the same product may be of less value, or need a anti-inflammatory ingredient fed along with it to produce results. This is the reason that threads like this get the wide variation of response that they do. Different causes for the same apparent lameness. I have done actual clinical studies on this. I do not sell a flex or joint care product. My opinion is that a combination of products, one that is anti-inflammatory, and one that supports synovial fluid quality produce the best result when used together.

If you have a horse that has a small spur on the back of his hock, what would you do? Vet said to give Adequan and I am feeding an anti-inflammatory. I have had one vet say just to do the anti-inflammatory and another the Adequan only.

I think this is why polyglycan has worked so well for so many pf my horses. It IS a combination of both joint fluid viscosity ingredients (HA) And also anti inflammatory with the glucosamine and Chondroitin. Some on here have used Pentosan Platinum which has 3 ingredients to cover all of those areas. Pentosan works extremely well on horses with arthritic changes already. the problem with oral HA products is that the size of molecule needed at the joint is often to big to make it through the absorption process in the gut. Lubrisyn has supposedly addressed this and claims its absorbed in the tissues before it even gets to the stomach/digestive tract. I do not use their product so I do not have an opinion there. a LOT of people use it and thats great. for ME, if I want an HA product to get into my horses blood stream thats where I put it. I inject into the VEIN and its there. i don't have to wait days, months, weeks to see if its working or will work. I routinely use polyglycan, adequan, and pentosan. Just depends on the horse and the results I want to see.
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Mzbradford
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2016-06-30 12:58 PM
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I had amazing results with pentosan. love it and will continue it in the future
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2016-06-30 10:59 PM
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hammer_time - 2016-06-29 10:03 PM

Chandler's Mom - 2016-06-29 7:22 PM Platinum CJ I have a 37 year old gelding and I can tell when he hasn't had it. Plus all 5 of mine will eat it right out of my hand. We think it's good stuff!

 Do you feed 1 or 2 scoops per day?

They get two scoops a day. I think one would be ok for some horses but two is what we found worked for us. Their customer service is second to none also.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-06-30 11:15 PM
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CE's wrapn3 - 2016-06-30 11:25 AM

Anyone use Lubricyn?

Yes I do

I give it daily to my competitive horses, I have noticed a significant difference in their legs within 2 weeks. I used to have the occasional wid puff on my one horse when she was due to be trimmed, those went away. Her legs are tight no puffs and clean. She was also showing subtle signs I may need to inject her hocks, with the lubrysin the signs went away, she flexes sound.

I put all my colts on it when I am working them as a preventative, so time will tell if I get to avoid injections.

I gave it to my bull mastiff s a last resort, he couldn't get up his hips were so bad, after 2 weeks he was jumping into the back of the truck.

The down side, is you have to religiously give it every day I really noticed this with my dog, if I missed a few days, he was sore.

I spoke to my vet about it and he said if the product does what the company claims, it is the best product out there as HA is a prostaglandin inhibitor therefore stops inflammation from ever happening.

The company states it is absorbed in the mucus membranes before it ever gets to the stomach, and this is why it works as the acids in the stomach destroys HA.

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hezasmashnsixcess
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2016-07-01 4:45 AM
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I tried Pentosan, but my horse was allergic, his body was covered in hives, however he did run batter that week it was in his system. I just started him on Polyglycan. since that injection he has been calmer, and more relaxed. on trail rides he is usually hot and prances all the way back, since that 1st injection, he walks all the way back. warms up at a race more calm, so i feel its due to he is more comfortable. I also just started ExcelQ. supposd to have anti inflammatory effects as well as other benefits. waiting to see those results. I have also heard alot of good things about previcox. Thats is something else I am considering for him if he needs it.
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