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Location: WI | Did you get accurate results? My dr is doing nothing for me, I need to figure out somethings alternative ways. |
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Location: sunny california | what kind of problems are you having? there are other types of tests that you can get done without a doctor. some labs are offering all kinds of tests now. Doctors are under the control of insurance companys nowadays unless you go to a holistic doctor and pay out of pocket |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | You should get ahold of Dr. Schell from Nouvelle Research....lots of people have had great luck on themselves and their horses with his direction!
https://www.nouvelleresearch.com/ |
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| My mom's chiropractor is also a nutritionist and he does hair analysis. Collects and sends off for testing. You may try to find a chiro that does this work? |
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Location: WI | I'm not entirely sure, but one thing I know it's horrible fatigue. I'm exhausted all. The. Time.
I wake up yawning and do it allllll day. Losing all motivation to do anything. Long term problem with no real results or answers
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| I don't know how much stock to put into this but I have been told and read that yawning isn't from being tiried, that it is from lack of oxygen. It is supose to be the body's way of getting in a lot of oxygen at one time. Are your sinus's stopped up any, does it feel like you aren't getting enough air? Just a thought |
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I just read the headlines
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| I felt like that and my doctor was no help at all, but my gynecologist ran a blood test on me and I was severely anemic. I would look for another doctor. |
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Location: southeast Texas | Have you checked your hormones?
An interesting book to read, the secret female hormone.
. I have a kindal app and down loaded it on my iPad.
Edited by roxieannie 2016-07-24 7:50 AM
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Don't waste your money to have your hair analyzed. It's been proved to be completely useless time and time again. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Then why do we do hair analysis on a horse then. One can't be useless and the other good science. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | BS Hauler - 2016-07-24 1:54 PM
Then why do we do hair analysis on a horse then. One can't be useless and the other good science.
it's a waste of money for human or beast.
So there is no good science on either side.
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I just read the headlines
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| Apparently regular medicine is bust for her. Instead of criticizing her for asking a question, why don't you give her another direction she could go. We ask about these alternatives when traditional medicine isn't helping. It is a cry for help. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | GLP - 2016-07-24 6:39 PM
Apparently regular medicine is bust for her. Instead of criticizing her for asking a question, why don't you give her another direction she could go. We ask about these alternatives when traditional medicine isn't helping. It is a cry for help.
Promoters of quackery prey upon people with difficult health problems. They entice them to spend thousands of dollars out of sheer desperation.
I didn't "criticize" her. I simply warned her. Hair analysis has been looked at several times, and by different investigators. It's worthless. Those of you encouraging her to try hair analysis are doing her a disservice. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I'll share a little personal anecdote to illustrate my point:
I had a relative who had a very aggressive form of Multiple Sclerosis back in the 90s. They tried many drugs and therapies, but they only worked briefly, if at all. The wife of this man heard about an alternative medicine clinic in the mountains somewhere in Colorado. It had a spa, and operated on nutrition, herbs, massage, and yes, individualized therapy based on hair analysis. Against my advice, she took him there. He had warm whirlpool treatments, mud baths, massage, acupuncture, etc... He also had hair analysis, and with those results, he was given an IV full of vitamins, minerals, and saline, followed by detoxifying enemas and "natural diuretics". He was also placed on a diet of exotic sounding herbs. They both stayed in a little cabin in the mountains. They were there for 1 week. He felt better and they left, buoyed by optimism.
He died later that summer.
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| Bear - 2016-07-24 9:10 PM
I'll share a little personal anecdote to illustrate my point:
I had a relative who had a very aggressive form of Multiple Sclerosis back in the 90s. They tried many drugs and therapies, but they only worked briefly, if at all. The wife of this man heard about an alternative medicine clinic in the mountains somewhere in Colorado. It had a spa, and operated on nutrition, herbs, massage, and yes, individualized therapy based on hair analysis. Against my advice, she took him there. He had warm whirlpool treatments, mud baths, massage, acupuncture, etc... He also had hair analysis, and with those results, he was given an IV full of vitamins, minerals, and saline, followed by detoxifying enemas and "natural diuretics". He was also placed on a diet of exotic sounding herbs. They both stayed in a little cabin in the mountains. They were there for 1 week. He felt better and they left, buoyed by optimism.
He died later that summer.
Total cost: over $40,000.
Thank you, that was helpful because you gave an example of a personal experience. I think that is what we want to hear, not just a flat it doesn't work answer. I don't want to hear just good results, I want to hear the bad, too. I have been struggling with a health issue for decades, to no avail. Luckily it's not life threatening but my doctor told me that there is nothing they can do, so yeah, I am going to look elsewhere for help. But before I try something, I want to learn as much as I can before I decide to try it or not. That means I want to hear the good and bad experiences. I am not turning my back on my doctor, just trying to feel better and possibly avoid more sinus surgeries in the future.
Again, thank you for the explaination. |
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Location: WI | Maybe I just need a really good dr. But how the hell do you find one? Every dr I've seen just basically blows off my concerns. I'll just simply sick and tired of the mentality of drs these days. None of them seen to give a rip if they fix or help you. They just wanna give you a pill for quick fix and five more to hide side effects of first pill. |
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| Take your medical care into your own hands. I'm currently dealing with a paralyzed vocal cord. I didn't get any answers from my ent, so I called and got an appointment at Stanford. It's super frustrating and I know Dr's aren't happy with the Internet research people do, but I wasnt happy being told I won't have a voice and there is nothing they can do. |
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Location: stalking Gail... | Have a bloodwork up done to check your hemoglobin and other levels. Include checking your Ferritin level (this may be a different blood test than the normal bloodwork. Also have your thyroid tested. |
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Location: Always on call..... | Has your doc done basic lab testing, even? If not, then yes you need to find a new doctor. If they have done lab testing (and other testing if warranted) that is all normal the next thing to evaluate is your lifestyle. Do you eat lots of sugar, grains and processed foods? How many times per day do you eat? Do you sleep good? Do you exercise? Do you have relaxation time and do emotionally/spiritually restful things? Are there significant stressors going on in your life right now?
I don't mean to minimize your concerns because I don't know you, nor do I need to know all these details. But so many patients come in with complaints of fatigue, various aches and pains yet they smoke, eat like crap, never exercise, work all the time, etc. After doing the initial lab testing, I try to counsel my patients on these things. You HAVE to take care of yourself. But people don't want to hear that, they just get mad that I haven't ordered some magic test that tells them what is wrong with them.
Just some food for thought from a primary care doc's perspective. :-) |
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Location: South Dakota | This isn't an answer to your original question but I have terrible fatigue if I don't eat enough protein. I'm not diabetic but I get a "sugar low" type of tired that is just miserable. |
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