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Leannehall
Reg. Jul 2016
Posted 2016-07-21 4:03 PM
Subject: Owner/Jockey Split Money


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How do owners of the barrel horse split with the rider of the horse? What's the "percentage of winnings to rider"?
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rodeomom3
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Posted 2016-07-21 4:05 PM
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 My experience is 50/50 split of winnings with owner paying all expenses. 
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babbsywabbsy
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2016-07-21 4:10 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2016-07-21 4:05 PM

Β My experience is 50/50 split of winnings with owner paying all expenses.Β 

Ditto.
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1DSoon
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Posted 2016-07-21 4:11 PM
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if you are a certain co owner of a $800k+ Rodeo horse you don't split them at all.


Then you get sued. 

 
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2016-07-21 4:27 PM
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1DSoon - 2016-07-21 4:11 PM if you are a certain co owner of a $800k+ Rodeo horse you don't split them at all.





Then you get sued. 



 

you're on a roll this week
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-07-21 5:09 PM
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50/50

If it is a small amount I let my trainer keep all of it. To me a small amount is less than $1000.

Edited by streakysox 2016-07-21 5:14 PM
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pokerplayer
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2016-07-21 5:14 PM
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Kay Blandford keps 30% because the owner pays for training and all expenses..  
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Hotcat
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2016-07-21 5:20 PM
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I know several that work same as Kay, 30% and many others that are on 50/50 but owner generally deducts all entry fees from winnings and gets all xtra prizes , this is my experience with futurity horses , not sure about rodeo people
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Lph88311
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2016-07-22 9:20 AM
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I have seen a lot of agreements where after the entries are subtracted, owner/rider split the remaining winnings 50/50.
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cowgalsissy
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2016-08-10 2:53 PM
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You have to keep in mind all vet care/ maintenance so this is a very good question if others will give their input.




 
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2016-08-10 3:00 PM
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Does the same still apply if you are an owner providing a quality mount to someone who is not yet established...
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sandygirl1
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2016-08-10 3:12 PM
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What about if you have a good horse that you trained and ride.... But just need a jockey in case of illness or you got hurt?
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-08-10 4:50 PM
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Most places we go places are based on the rider and there are no substitutes. I have had my trainer ride my horse somewhere, because I suck. Either I pay all expenses like the world show or if the money is less than $1000, she gets it, over $1000, we split 50/50. My trainer does this for a living, she has to be paid for her time.

I guess if you just get someone you know to ride 50/50 would be fair. If I am sick, I don't go.
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2016-08-10 4:58 PM
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scwebster - 2016-08-10 3:00 PM Does the same still apply if you are an owner providing a quality mount to someone who is not yet established...

Is the mount established? I know you said the mount was quality, just asking. 

I would think it would change things if  the non established jockey came to you asking but I think the same would apply if you went to the non established jockey asking.

But that's just my thoughts on the matter.
Great question! 
 
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barrelbasher
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2016-08-10 9:42 PM
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The times I have had someone run one for me. I subtracted EF and split the rest 50/50
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2016-08-11 10:50 AM
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scwebster - 2016-08-10 3:00 PM Does the same still apply if you are an owner providing a quality mount to someone who is not yet established...
Is the mount established? I know you said the mount was quality, just asking. 

I would think it would change things if  the non established jockey came to you asking but I think the same would apply if you went to the non established jockey asking.

But that's just my thoughts on the matter.
Great question! 
 
Well in this case a kid just getting into barrel racing has learned on my nice finished horse. I dont have a problem with her entering on him as I know he will take care of her.. but should I expect them to pay the entry fees and split any winnings....or they keep winnings...   (We havent come to this bridge yet but I feel we will get there before long

Edited by scwebster 2016-08-11 10:51 AM
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swd
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2016-08-11 10:55 AM
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I am curious about the reasoning. If it is just a jockey situation I can see some sort of split to pay rider. However, if I am already paying for training and paying all expenses and entry fees, why would I also have to give up 50% of winnings? Due to high amount of expenses, those winnings are only way to recoup investment. I am only asking because at the racetrack the owner keeps the winnings. Trainer gets their monthly fee since that is what they are paid to do and jockey doesn't have a monthly stipend so they get 10% of winnings.
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lhighquality
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2016-08-11 11:40 AM
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barrelbasher - 2016-08-10 9:42 PM

The times I have had someone run one for me. I subtracted EF and split the rest 50/50

This ^^


and if I hauled the horse specifically for the rider, I subtracted some for fuel.


Edited by lhighquality 2016-08-11 11:41 AM
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linds
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2016-08-11 2:53 PM
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swd - 2016-08-11 10:55 AM I am curious about the reasoning. If it is just a jockey situation I can see some sort of split to pay rider. However, if I am already paying for training and paying all expenses and entry fees, why would I also have to give up 50% of winnings? Due to high amount of expenses, those winnings are only way to recoup investment. I am only asking because at the racetrack the owner keeps the winnings. Trainer gets their monthly fee since that is what they are paid to do and jockey doesn't have a monthly stipend so they get 10% of winnings.

Interesting..  The trainer doesn't get any incentive or bonus if the horse wins? 
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Jazz's Girl
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2016-08-11 3:51 PM
Subject: RE: Owner/Jockey Split Money


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scwebster - 2016-08-11 10:50 AM

IRunOnFaith - 2016-08-10 4:58 PM
scwebster - 2016-08-10 3:00 PM Does the same still apply if you are an owner providing a quality mount to someone who is not yet established...
Is the mount established? I know you said the mount was quality, just asking.Β 

I would think it would change things ifΒ Β the non established jockey came to you asking but I think the same would apply if you went to the non established jockey asking.

But that's just my thoughts on the matter.
Great question!Β 
Β 
Well in this case a kid just getting into barrel racing has learned on myΒ nice finished horse. I dont have a problem with her entering on him as I know he will take care of her..Β but should I expect them to pay the entry fees and split any winnings....or they keep winnings...Β Β  (We havent come to this bridge yetΒ but I feel we will get there before long)Β 

When I let a youth rider run my mare, I hauled the horse, she paid the entry fee and kept anything she won. I felt it was fair.
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