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| How do owners of the barrel horse split with the rider of the horse? What's the "percentage of winnings to rider"? |
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| My experience is 50/50 split of winnings with owner paying all expenses. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2016-07-21 4:05 PM
Β My experience is 50/50 split of winnings with owner paying all expenses.Β
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | if you are a certain co owner of a $800k+ Rodeo horse you don't split them at all.
Then you get sued.
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           Location: Kansas | 1DSoon - 2016-07-21 4:11 PM if you are a certain co owner of a $800k+ Rodeo horse you don't split them at all.
Then you get sued.
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| 50/50
If it is a small amount I let my trainer keep all of it. To me a small amount is less than $1000.
Edited by streakysox 2016-07-21 5:14 PM
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 Location: texas | Kay Blandford keps 30% because the owner pays for training and all expenses..  |
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  Location: Oklahoma | I know several that work same as Kay, 30% and many others that are on 50/50 but owner generally deducts all entry fees from winnings and gets all xtra prizes , this is my experience with futurity horses , not sure about rodeo people |
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| I have seen a lot of agreements where after the entries are subtracted, owner/rider split the remaining winnings 50/50. |
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   Location: LA Lower Alabama | You have to keep in mind all vet care/ maintenance so this is a very good question if others will give their input.
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| Does the same still apply if you are an owner providing a quality mount to someone who is not yet established... |
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| What about if you have a good horse that you trained and ride.... But just need a jockey in case of illness or you got hurt? |
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| Most places we go places are based on the rider and there are no substitutes. I have had my trainer ride my horse somewhere, because I suck. Either I pay all expenses like the world show or if the money is less than $1000, she gets it, over $1000, we split 50/50. My trainer does this for a living, she has to be paid for her time.
I guess if you just get someone you know to ride 50/50 would be fair. If I am sick, I don't go. |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | scwebster - 2016-08-10 3:00 PM Does the same still apply if you are an owner providing a quality mount to someone who is not yet established...
Is the mount established? I know you said the mount was quality, just asking.
I would think it would change things if the non established jockey came to you asking but I think the same would apply if you went to the non established jockey asking.
But that's just my thoughts on the matter. Great question! |
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      Location: Texas | The times I have had someone run one for me. I subtracted EF and split the rest 50/50 |
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| IRunOnFaith - 2016-08-10 4:58 PM scwebster - 2016-08-10 3:00 PM Does the same still apply if you are an owner providing a quality mount to someone who is not yet established... Is the mount established? I know you said the mount was quality, just asking.
I would think it would change things if the non established jockey came to you asking but I think the same would apply if you went to the non established jockey asking.
But that's just my thoughts on the matter. Great question! Well in this case a kid just getting into barrel racing has learned on my nice finished horse. I dont have a problem with her entering on him as I know he will take care of her.. but should I expect them to pay the entry fees and split any winnings....or they keep winnings... (We havent come to this bridge yet but I feel we will get there before long)
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     Location: run2win land | I am curious about the reasoning. If it is just a jockey situation I can see some sort of split to pay rider. However, if I am already paying for training and paying all expenses and entry fees, why would I also have to give up 50% of winnings? Due to high amount of expenses, those winnings are only way to recoup investment. I am only asking because at the racetrack the owner keeps the winnings. Trainer gets their monthly fee since that is what they are paid to do and jockey doesn't have a monthly stipend so they get 10% of winnings. |
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     Location: SE KS | barrelbasher - 2016-08-10 9:42 PM
The times I have had someone run one for me. I subtracted EF and split the rest 50/50
This ^^
and if I hauled the horse specifically for the rider, I subtracted some for fuel.
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   Location: WI | swd - 2016-08-11 10:55 AM I am curious about the reasoning. If it is just a jockey situation I can see some sort of split to pay rider. However, if I am already paying for training and paying all expenses and entry fees, why would I also have to give up 50% of winnings? Due to high amount of expenses, those winnings are only way to recoup investment. I am only asking because at the racetrack the owner keeps the winnings. Trainer gets their monthly fee since that is what they are paid to do and jockey doesn't have a monthly stipend so they get 10% of winnings.
Interesting.. The trainer doesn't get any incentive or bonus if the horse wins? |
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| scwebster - 2016-08-11 10:50 AM
IRunOnFaith - 2016-08-10 4:58 PM scwebster - 2016-08-10 3:00 PM Does the same still apply if you are an owner providing a quality mount to someone who is not yet established... Is the mount established? I know you said the mount was quality, just asking.Β
I would think it would change things ifΒ Β the non established jockey came to you asking but I think the same would apply if you went to the non established jockey asking.
But that's just my thoughts on the matter. Great question!Β Β Well in this case a kid just getting into barrel racing has learned on myΒ nice finished horse. I dont have a problem with her entering on him as I know he will take care of her..Β but should I expect them to pay the entry fees and split any winnings....or they keep winnings...Β Β (We havent come to this bridge yetΒ but I feel we will get there before long)Β
When I let a youth rider run my mare, I hauled the horse, she paid the entry fee and kept anything she won. I felt it was fair. |
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