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| I have a mare that has been vetted regularly throughout this summer. I've been hauling pretty hard trying to make circuit finals. From the beginning of the year she started doing something odd when she rates a barrel. Its worse on the first barrel (right) then the second and third. Instead of rating straight then making the turn she rates and flips her hip out... Looking like she's dropping her shoulder.... Her hocks were done in February and again in June... and her stifles were just re injected 3 weeks ago. Her suspensorys were checked too... I've done slow work with her and if I can stay two handed all the way into the turn I can keep her rating straight.. BUT you can still see her trying to do it in a video. Anyways I had a chiropractor look at her over the weekend and he feels her pelvis is tilted. I told him all summer I've noticed her resting her hind feet a lot too. I mean more then I've ever noticed. After the adjustment my fiance pointed out her left hip bone was about a 1/4 to half inch lower then the other. Sure enough it was. When she walked too. The processes I am talking about are right on top of her hip. They are called the tuber sacrale. I go back to my vet on Friday. But to get some ideas has anyone eles dealt with uneven tuber sacrale/ hip processes? The reading I found said hunters bump? But i dont know. If your horse had issues with this what was the diagnosis and how was it treated? ETA: her hocks and stifles were done because she flexed positive obviously.
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| Mine is retired. . I was injecting it every two months to keep the pain at bay. SI problems are a bear. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | have vet do a rectal exam and check for a pelvic break. I had to retire my barrel gelding at 6yrs old because of one. I think he did it the winter before he turned 5. Spent a year trying to figure out why he was blowing out of 2nd. He was always back sore and sore over his SI. |
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| Here is a picture of what I am talking about. She is standing square on a flat surface.
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| Could incorrect shoeing cause this over time maybe?  |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Oh how I wish you were near me. I love working on this type of injury. It is a bear and as others have alluded to you need to rule out a fracture. I have had success doing deep and I mean deep tissue work external and internal on horses that look like yours. I also have chiro work and stretches along with some gymnastic exercises. Get a good deep tissue person in your area to work on your horse. You will likely need a set of stocks. yes, the work is painful and yes the horse will strike out. Get to a good performance vet that can inject P-Block for you into the area.
Are you feeling the horse losing hip control in a circle. If so it's usually on the offending limb while on the outside track. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | sourkiss378 - 2016-08-24 7:46 AM Could incorrect shoeing cause this over time maybe?
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2016-08-24 8:46 AM
sourkiss378 - 2016-08-24 7:46 AM Could incorrect shoeing cause this over time maybe? Â
 she's has always been barefoot. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | WetSaddleBlankets - 2016-08-24 11:09 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-08-24 8:46 AM sourkiss378 - 2016-08-24 7:46 AM Could incorrect shoeing cause this over time maybe? she's has always been barefoot.
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Location: Bandera, TX | I have a feeling she may have a chronically crushed lateral border. |
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2016-08-24 8:45 AM
Oh how I wish you were near me. I love working on this type of injury. It is a bear and as others have alluded to you need to rule out a fracture. I have had success doing deep and I mean deep tissue work external and internal on horses that look like yours. I also have chiro work and stretches along with some gymnastic exercises. Get a good deep tissue person in your area to work on your horse. You will likely need a set of stocks. yes, the work is painful and yes the horse will strike out. Get to a good performance vet that can inject P-Block for you into the area.Â
Are you feeling the horse losing hip control in a circle. If so it's usually on the offending limb while on the outside track.
 Great info thanks. No she feels good during warms up and dry work. The only time I notice anything is at her rate spot. |
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2016-08-24 11:14 AM
I have a feeling she may have a chronically crushed lateral border. Â
 that sounds terrible what is that exactly. |
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2016-08-24 11:12 AM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2016-08-24 11:09 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-08-24 8:46 AM sourkiss378 - 2016-08-24 7:46 AM Could incorrect shoeing cause this over time maybe?  she's has always been barefoot.
 I can get pictures tonight. Im at work. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | My gelding becomes uneven frequently. He is kind of a high maintenance horse on keeping him in alignment. After I get his stifles injected, the chiro can basically get it even again. Then I have a massage work on his muscles. His muslce are tight and have poor muscle memory so they are consistently pulling it back out. I think the stifle injections take down some of the inflammation so it is easier to put back. I'm not sure if I will ever get his to stay. If you find something else that works let me know. I have been dealing with this issue for 8 years. |
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Location: Alabama | I had one that started bucking on the pattern (had never bucked before). Had a massage/chiro look at him & she pointed out his hips were uneven. She did an adjustment by pulling his tail as he stepped backwards (I'm sure it's more complicated than that). It popped right back into place & he never bucked again.
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I don't know if it's the angle of the shot, but it looks like her spine doesn't line up with her tail bone?
Anyways, my cousins mare came to us with this same issue, she is also butt high. Have you had a chiro work on her? After a few sessions, and we did end up injecting a stifle as well, she is back level. She is very mindful of how long she works certain directions. Whichever side she was lower she worked more to build back up. We also made sure her saddle fit, and fixed a few minor things saddle pad wise as well.
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| WetSaddleBlankets - 2016-08-24 11:15 AM
uno-dos-tres! - 2016-08-24 11:12 AM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2016-08-24 11:09 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-08-24 8:46 AM sourkiss378 - 2016-08-24 7:46 AM Could incorrect shoeing cause this over time maybe?  she's has always been barefoot. I can get pictures tonight. Im at work.
 you know what.. I got to thinking. I'm not going to get pictures because I'm more than competent and know that there's nothing wrong with my horses feet... plus I use the best vets around my area. They'd tell me if something was wrong. Besides I have s great farrier. |
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| SmokinGirlie - 2016-08-24 2:16 PM
I don't know if it's the angle of the shot, but it looks like her spine doesn't line up with her tail bone?
Anyways, my cousins mare came to us with this same issue, she is also butt high. Have you had a chiro work on her? After a few sessions, and we did end up injecting a stifle as well, she is back level. She is very mindful of how long she works certain directions. Whichever side she was lower she worked more to build back up. We also made sure her saddle fit, and fixed a few minor things saddle pad wise as well.Â
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 its thr angle. I have a chrio coming next week. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | WetSaddleBlankets - 2016-08-24 5:32 PM SmokinGirlie - 2016-08-24 2:16 PM I don't know if it's the angle of the shot, but it looks like her spine doesn't line up with her tail bone?
Anyways, my cousins mare came to us with this same issue, she is also butt high. Have you had a chiro work on her? After a few sessions, and we did end up injecting a stifle as well, she is back level. She is very mindful of how long she works certain directions. Whichever side she was lower she worked more to build back up. We also made sure her saddle fit, and fixed a few minor things saddle pad wise as well.
its thr angle. I have a chrio coming next week.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Cowgirl Kat - 2016-08-24 10:16 AM My gelding becomes uneven frequently. He is kind of a high maintenance horse on keeping him in alignment. After I get his stifles injected, the chiro can basically get it even again. Then I have a massage work on his muscles. His muslce are tight and have poor muscle memory so they are consistently pulling it back out. I think the stifle injections take down some of the inflammation so it is easier to put back. I'm not sure if I will ever get his to stay. If you find something else that works let me know. I have been dealing with this issue for 8 years.
I have a feeling my show horse is like this. I wonder if it is stifles. He's only 5. He doesn't ride lame and the things he does gets better when he is in shape. He is a tad higher on one side and checked out fine when we vetted him. |
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