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| Okay...so since spring I've had some ups and downs with my mare...it seems like sometimes she fires really hard and other times she's like "meh". She has been fully vetted, teeth done, chiropractor has been out...vet says she's in great body condition. I am beginning to think maybe it's a respiratory/ allergy issue? She was scoped in the spring because I do fight with stable cough off and on, no matter how clean I keep things; she was clear, but no BAL was done. I have used Cough Free, Ani-Hist. Plus, Air Power pre-race; sometimes I think it helps, other times not. We also just had a change in our weather; 90+ humidity to 75 with cool nights. I feel like I am getting it from all sides!
I have heard EquiPulmin is popular? Is it effective? Where do I go from here?
Many thanks!
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Tons of topics on here but I've had great luck with Cur-OST on my mare that was off the charts on her allergy test. |
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| SmokinGirlie - 2016-09-02 8:51 AM
Tons of topics on here but I've had great luck with Cur-OST on my mare that was off the charts on her allergy test.
What product are you using? I have another mare on Adapt and Calm and I really like it for that purpose. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | RedHead84 - 2016-09-02 8:57 AM SmokinGirlie - 2016-09-02 8:51 AM Tons of topics on here but I've had great luck with Cur-OST on my mare that was off the charts on her allergy test. What product are you using? I have another mare on Adapt and Calm and I really like it for that purpose.
I have mine on Total and Immune, but lots are fine on just Total! Love adapt and calm on some of my other horses!
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Location: NE Texas | Cur-Ost, hands down, 100%. I tried it all and was advised to put my horse down. Glad I didn't! You can go back and search my posts for the whole story. Pictures below were 30 days apart, first one he was in complete respiratory distress, was on 8cc of Ventipulmin daily, plus Dex.
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Ok fine, I started my mare a year ago this month on Cur-OST!
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| Herbie - 2016-09-02 9:03 AM
Cur-Ost, hands down, 100%. I tried it all and was advised to put my horse down. Glad I didn't! You can go back and search my posts for the whole story. Pictures below were 30 days apart, first one he was in complete respiratory distress, was on 8cc of Ventipulmin daily, plus Dex.
Put him down? Holy crapola! That's crazy. My little mare would try her heart out running on 3 legs...so I got to get this figured out, but I also don't want to toss $$ down the drain. That's 2 votes for Cur-Ost! |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | RedHead84 - 2016-09-02 9:14 AM Herbie - 2016-09-02 9:03 AM Cur-Ost, hands down, 100%. I tried it all and was advised to put my horse down. Glad I didn't! You can go back and search my posts for the whole story. Pictures below were 30 days apart, first one he was in complete respiratory distress, was on 8cc of Ventipulmin daily, plus Dex. Put him down? Holy crapola! That's crazy. My little mare would try her heart out running on 3 legs...so I got to get this figured out, but I also don't want to toss $$ down the drain. That's 2 votes for Cur-Ost!
You should head to secondvet.com and start a topic on their forum, it's super helpful! |
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Location: NE Texas | RedHead84 - 2016-09-02 9:14 AM Herbie - 2016-09-02 9:03 AM Cur-Ost, hands down, 100%. I tried it all and was advised to put my horse down. Glad I didn't! You can go back and search my posts for the whole story. Pictures below were 30 days apart, first one he was in complete respiratory distress, was on 8cc of Ventipulmin daily, plus Dex. Put him down? Holy crapola! That's crazy. My little mare would try her heart out running on 3 legs...so I got to get this figured out, but I also don't want to toss $$ down the drain. That's 2 votes for Cur-Ost!
Yes. I had spent about $5000 in about 3 months at three different vets. Had done multiple scopes, antibiotics, steroids, nebulizers, etc etc and he continued to deteriorate. The Cur-Ost was a last resort for me after trying literally everything else from other supplements to medications, to prescription treatments. Dr. Schell asked me to give him 2 weeks....sure glad I did! Haven't looked back. I've posted the entire story many times if you want to search my posts back through the last year or so. :)
The longer we let these issues go, the more damage that occurs in the lungs, so definitely want to get it under control quickly! Once the damage has occured, it is not repairable. My horse will likley never be 100% due to the damage in his lungs, but we were able to get him to 90% from a horse that couldn't take a deep enough breath to cough! I'd say he is thriving pretty well now. :)
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | RedHead84 - 2016-09-02 10:24 AM Do you use anything pre-race?
depending on the environment, I'll sometimes use Formula 707 Clearex in the nostrils, or Flair strips
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Location: NE Texas | RedHead84 - 2016-09-02 10:24 AM Do you use anything pre-race?
I try to time feeding my Cur-ost 4 - 6 hours out to receive the maximum benefit of the herbs, but other than that, no I do not use anything else pre-race and have not used any Dex or Ventipulmin since I started using the Cur-ost. |
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| I also agree with the Cur-Ost! It SAVED my old barrel horse! He was constantly breathing heavy, itching, and was allergic to just about anything. We started him on Cur-Ost and he began looking and feeling better which caused him to run better! However, we had 3 other horses on it as well who also had some issues and now only have 2 on it and they are finishing up the last bag of it. It just didn't work for them, but it is worth a shot :) A couple months ago we were fighting a terrible cough and just nasty fit with my calf horse, he was getting 8cc of dex daily and 5cc of ventipulmin twice daily. We switched his feed to Total Equine and started him on Cough Free and he is no longer having ANY issues (he filled in again like he was before this happened and looks great on the new feed) :) I like ventipulmin for the more major breathing issues (6cc on race day) and all our barrel horses get 30cc of Wind Aid before a race. The rope horses get it if they need :) the Wind Aid clears the airways and they can breath and catch their breaths much easier with it! |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | THE Pulmon-EZ really helped my friends mare. She was having a lot of trouble breathing but is now doing significantly better. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | THE Pulmoneze has helped me in the past.
One product I love as well is EQ Royal.
If you can, I would still get a BAL done. She may have scoped clean once but she could still be bleeding. I know getting a scope done right after a race isn't always easy, but if you can it may help. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | This has been around for years. RE-COUP by Saratoga Vet Products. Builds the lungs back up. Along with Bio Hesper C/K you cant find a better combination. If you can get Rose hips would also be a plus. |
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Location: In my own little world | I have had aswesome results with EquiPulmin! It has cleared up coughing that had been present during warm up for 2 years and vets couldn't figure out what the issue was.. Have one gelding who gets a snotty nose and breathing issues as soon as the dust hits every year. Cleared him right up very quickly this year and it hasn't returned. Have a friend who has been able to take her horse off ventipulmin. Love this stuff. It is being used for a variety of breathing issues, bleeders, allergies and there are a lot of positive outcomes from it. I had tried a whole host of products that were mediocre and this has been very worth the investment.. |
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| I wanted to give you guys an update!
I pulled my mare out Thursday to ride...cough, cough, cough...we walked that's all we did...I thought okay...is this allergies or is something going on? I let it go...I pulled her out Friday...nostrils flairing, sides thumping, cough, cough...now I am concerned. No temperature, she eats and drinks, acts pretty normal except her respiration. So here we are...right before a 3 day weekend...craaaaaaaap. I call the vet, they come out...full physical exam, lungs sound harsh; they decide to do the "bag test"...she does not pass and begins to cough and it takes her too long to recover. They diagnose her with the early stages of a cold or pneumonia/ respiratory infection. So we are treating that with TMS/SMZ for 10 days and no riding. They said it's possible this has been manifesting for a while and she just now shows signs of distress. So after 10 days we'll see where we are at... |
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Location: North Dakota | RedHead84 - 2016-09-07 7:43 AM I wanted to give you guys an update! I pulled my mare out Thursday to ride...cough, cough, cough...we walked that's all we did...I thought okay...is this allergies or is something going on? I let it go...I pulled her out Friday...nostrils flairing, sides thumping, cough, cough...now I am concerned. No temperature, she eats and drinks, acts pretty normal except her respiration. So here we are...right before a 3 day weekend...craaaaaaaap. I call the vet, they come out...full physical exam, lungs sound harsh; they decide to do the "bag test"...she does not pass and begins to cough and it takes her too long to recover. They diagnose her with the early stages of a cold or pneumonia/ respiratory infection. So we are treating that with TMS/SMZ for 10 days and no riding. They said it's possible this has been manifesting for a while and she just now shows signs of distress. So after 10 days we'll see where we are at...
I'm sorry to hear the update isn't a good one! My mare has COPD/heaves and it has been a battle ever since I got her this way. I recently had to treat my mare for a respiratory infection after she had some green discharge after exercise. She didn't have a temp either and was acting normal along with eating and drinking like normal. Once I thought about all the drastic weather changes we have had the past few weeks it didn't surprise me that her allergies are getting the best of her right now.
Update us again after 10 days. I hope she is feeling better by then! |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | so sorry to hear, hopefully it is a quick fix and that she responds well. Keep us posted on how she is doing!  |
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