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DPentland
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2016-09-18 10:34 AM
Subject: NEED BELL BOOT HELP



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 I have a gelding who tears bell boots apart. I am only getting 2-3 uses out of a set before they are being ruined. His over reaching is NOT due to farrier work. It is his mechanics, he has a surgically fused pastern on his front left, with a plate and screws running up the front. And to top it off he is VERY short backed.
I have tried several brands such as PC, Classic Equine etc. He either rips the velcro right off (if the boot spins) or he catches the bottom seam on the back and rips it off, or puts holes in the backs. I just got a set of RES that I have not tried yet. I have tried the cheap rubber boots to save a few bucks but he is only getting 1-2 runs out of those. I have played with size trying to get them to not turn, which is tricky because his right pastern is normal, and the left is much thicker.
I am wondering if there is an extremly tough boot I can try, or is there something I can do to help keep them in place and add protection? I will continue to pay for bell boots because I would rather have ruined bells than an injured horse, but it is getting rather expensive.

 
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SuperTrooper
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2016-09-18 11:34 AM
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Have you tried massage or chiro on his neck and shoulders? Maybe he isn't moving his front legs out of the way fast enough to not overreach. Idk, its just a suggestion....Also, does he ruin his boots on both legs or just the one with the plate and screws?
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DPentland
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2016-09-18 11:46 AM
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He gets regular Chiro/message. And he is rarely every out, and never badly. he over reaches on both, but mostly on the fused side, I have discussed this with my vet and he agrees it is simply his mechanics now.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-09-18 11:53 AM
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I have a few pairs that are harder outer shell boots I will check what brand they are for you maybe something like that would work better.  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-09-18 11:55 AM
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I also knew a few that would wrap their bell boots with vet wrap to help. 
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DPentland
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2016-09-18 12:13 PM
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Did they wrap it right under the heel? I am just trying to picture it... 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-09-18 12:23 PM
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DPentland - 2016-09-18 12:13 PM Did they wrap it right under the heel? I am just trying to picture it... 

When I had issues with my bells I would wrap the vet wrap around the hoof and heel area to give the bells something to grip on so that they would not turn and they stayed in place better. And some would wrap the bells with vet wrap so they would not rip them off as easy. But I alway like wraping the hoof and heel for more protection of the heel if I had a problem with a horse riping off their boots.  
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run2winedge
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2016-09-18 12:30 PM
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Longer toe on back( shod like a Reiner ) & front roll the toe off the front. That way the back does not break over as fast & front feet will & can get out of the way faster. It will take about a week for him to get used to this stride.

ALSO VERY IMPORTANT: stretch his front legs 2-3 more time to every 1 time you stretch his back legs. Makes a huge difference.

I have a gelding that his strides like this & it has done the trick.
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cutnrunqhmt
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2016-09-18 1:07 PM
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Classic Equine makes a hard shell bell boot. They don't spin and fit really well,maybe they would work.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-09-18 1:20 PM
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The bells that I have are the Classice Equine ProTech.. Love these   
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DPentland
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2016-09-18 2:24 PM
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He runs barefoot and is trimmed as you describe already. The mechanics of his stride are not going to change just need to figure out how to, not  buy shares in bell boot companies lol.

 
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DPentland
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2016-09-18 2:27 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2016-09-18 12:20 PM The bells that I have are the Classice Equine ProTech.. Love these   

I just googled and those look like ones to try for sure! Thanks for the suggestion.  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-09-18 2:49 PM
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DPentland - 2016-09-18 2:27 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2016-09-18 12:20 PM The bells that I have are the Classice Equine ProTech.. Love these   
I just googled and those look like ones to try for sure! Thanks for the suggestion.  

Hope they can save you a little money by not getting riped off every time you make a run, they are a little more expensive but maybe last longer, good luck 
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canadiannorth
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2016-09-18 2:57 PM
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You probably would do best with an eventer type boot. I bought the Horsewear Dalmar boots with the carbon strike protection this year to use on the rope horses. They are super light weight, easy to clean & fit really nice. I'm actually probably going to get a few more pairs of the over reach boots to use on all the horses I like them so much.

http://shop.horseware.com/p/dalmar-overreach-boot/dalmar?pp=8



Edited by canadiannorth 2016-09-18 2:58 PM
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2016-09-18 5:34 PM
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The ProTechs from CE might be your best bet. Although you could try a normal Belboot with a rubber Belboot over it.... I have seen that before.
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cheeka77
Reg. Nov 2013
Posted 2016-09-19 1:24 AM
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I belive Pro Orthapedic ones are made with Kevlar...Maybe do the electrical tape trick if you get a pair of front shoes on? Does he wear bells 24/7?? Otherwise what about these?  https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/veredus-carbon-shield-heel-protector-boots-10944 I know they're expensive but you could try to buy used
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jbw tx mom
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2016-09-19 8:49 AM
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My daughters high school horse was like that, we used the combo set splint boots and bell boots all made together in one unit. A local upholstery guy would sew heavy dense material to the back portion and the patch when needed
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DPentland
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2016-09-19 2:20 PM
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cheeka77 - 2016-09-19 12:24 AM I belive Pro Orthapedic ones are made with Kevlar...Maybe do the electrical tape trick if you get a pair of front shoes on? Does he wear bells 24/7?? Otherwise what about these?  https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/veredus-carbon-shield-heel-protector-boots-10944 I know they're expensive but you could try to buy used

His mechanics get worse with shoes so he stays barefoot. He does not wear bell boots outside of arena work and barrel runs. He is fine to trail ride without and does not hurt himself in the field. Even doing arena work he is ok. He just gets crazy legs when he runs a pattern I guess lol. Those boots look like they would be worth a try  
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rocko
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2016-09-19 3:24 PM
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 https://www.thinlineglobal.com/shop/english-horse-tack/gatorbootz-bell-boot-fail-proof-closure-by-thinline?  These are pretty tough, kind of a pain to get on and off until you get the hang of it. They run very big, so a small fits all my Quarter horses.
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jvolk1010
Reg. Nov 2015
Posted 2016-09-19 3:38 PM
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The new Fallon Taylor bell boots are supposed to have a really good material on the back of them. Not sure if they stand up really well or not as I have not tried them, but it is worth a shot.
Read about them on this link:
http://fallontaylor.com/de-bell-boots-black/
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