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| Those of you that have had siblings or half siblings to your dynamite barrel horses, how did the siblings compare? I have he option to buy my favorite horses only half sister. But I know how different me and my own siblings are and are wondering people's expertise! TIA! |
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Location: OH | Kgirl - 2016-11-01 8:37 AM Those of you that have had siblings or half siblings to your dynamite barrel horses, how did the siblings compare? I have he option to buy my favorite horses only half sister. But I know how different me and my own siblings are and are wondering people's expertise! TIA!
First---what are you considering a half -sister ???? |
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| I don't have experiance with barrel horses, but I do have some experiance with reining horses. Friend owned full brother and sister, and they couldn't have been more different. The mare had a very serious, no nonsense, let's just get to work and get it over with, attitude. The gelding was the polar opposite, he loved to play. In the pasture he would pick up his Jolly Ball and go "beat" the other horses with it until one of them reacted. In the cross ties we were constantly having to pull the cross ties out of his mouth. He was goofy, joyful, and rather ADD under saddle. Both of these horses were raised by my friend in the same environment from the moment they were weaned, so handling and enviroment were not factors.
So, even if horses are related, you really need to take each horse as an individual. Just look at racehorses. Look at Rachel Alexandra's full sister Samantha Nichole, she didn't kill at the track like Rachel did. She has already been retired after a rather unremarkable career. |
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| Mighty Broke - 2016-11-01 7:52 AM Kgirl - 2016-11-01 8:37 AM Those of you that have had siblings or half siblings to your dynamite barrel horses, how did the siblings compare? I have he option to buy my favorite horses only half sister. But I know how different me and my own siblings are and are wondering people's expertise! TIA! First---what are you considering a half -sister ????
Same mother. The sire of my horse never had any more offspring.
thanks draft mare! This horses were bred and raised by the same ppl so would have the same environment so this is a perfect example! |
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Location: OH | OK---we are on the same page. LOL.
IMO---it would really depend on the mare and what type of breeding program she came from. If she happens to be linebred, she will breed a lot truer and consistent.
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Location: Kentucky | You consider half siblings to be out of the same mare. Can I please hug you? It drives me bananas when people say half siblings when they are by the same stallion. No, stop it! |
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| I have two full sisters. They could not be more different. The 4 year old can be a little ****y threeand has always had an attitude even as a baby. The three year old is more laid back and just kind of rolls with the flow. Trainer says that both have the same style and like the same bits. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | I have had a set of full sisters, 10 years in age difference. The first was probably THE smartest, and the most talented horse I've ever owned. I often wish that I was 25 when I got her and not 15... She is the reason I finally managed to rebreed the mare and get a full sister.
Wholly cow, they could not have been more different... Both were super smart, super talented, and a little bit nutty, and they were both grey and beautiful. That is where it ended.
Mick is afraid of nothing. She will seriously walk up to running chain saws, I've caught her standing in the bucket of the running skid steer sniffing the seat after my husband stepped out. Mia was afraid of her own shadow. I roped on Mick, and never could get Mia over a debilitating fear of ropes. You couldn't "hammer" on Mick--she'd get ****ed, and usually get even. Mia was very submissive and would get fearful with just a small amount of discipline. I never got to make Mick a bang up barrel horse (she developed mild cataracts), but she was a good one, and good at everything I ever did with her...showmanship, WP, horsemanship, games, even sidesaddle. Mia was a great barrel and pole horse but didn't have the multitude of talents, or the mind for them, that her sister does.
Both mares have been my greatest horses in their own way. I lost Mia at only 9 years old, but she was becoming a top tier competitor at large races, and was a 20 second pole horse. Mick is 21, fat and sound, can still be stubborn, and is toting my two small boys around, teaching them how to ride a really broke horse with lots of buttons.
I also have a half brother--same stallion to those mares, he's a jerk. A very athletically talented jerk, but still a hot-headed jerk. All 3 were raised, or mostly raised by my mom and I. |
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Location: SE KS | I have 3 half siblings, (all out of same mare, different stallions)
The first one is a 9 yo gelding, I didn't get him til he was a yr old. He is dominant, fun to ride with a great work ethic.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/searles+trick+ernie
His little sister is 3, she too is dominant, but laid back, have just started riding her, seems to have a good work ethic, although I believe she may have a little attitude.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/highs+blu+goldseeker
Third one is a long yearling, he is laid back, not dominant, just easy going. I expect him to have a good work ethic too.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/jlhtwoeyedgoldseeker
I am expecting this one in the spring and am very excited!!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/paint+your+goldseeker
If you like your horse, I wouldn't hesitate to get a sibling!!!
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| Murphy - 2016-11-01 8:26 AM You consider half siblings to be out of the same mare. Can I please hug you? It drives me bananas when people say half siblings when they are by the same stallion. No, stop it!
Haha I will gladly take a hug! But why don't you consider same stud half siblings? |
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| draftmare - 2016-11-01 7:57 AM
I don't have experiance with barrel horses, but I do have some experiance with reining horses. Friend owned full brother and sister, and they couldn't have been more different. The mare had a very serious, no nonsense, let's just get to work and get it over with, attitude. The gelding was the polar opposite, he loved to play. In the pasture he would pick up his Jolly Ball and go "beat" the other horses with it until one of them reacted. In the cross ties we were constantly having to pull the cross ties out of his mouth. He was goofy, joyful, and rather ADD under saddle. Both of these horses were raised by my friend in the same environment from the moment they were weaned, so handling and enviroment were not factors.
So, even if horses are related, you really need to take each horse as an individual. Just look at racehorses. Look at Rachel Alexandra's full sister Samantha Nichole, she didn't kill at the track like Rachel did. She has already been retired after a rather unremarkable career.
I totally agree with this. We have a full brother and sister that are cutters and they couldn't be more different. The gelding is totally laid back and the mare is really flighty/goofy.
In the picture below the full siblings are the sorrel gelding in the middle and the roan mare. The sorrel mare on top is a maternal half sister to both and she is more laid back like the gelding.
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Location: Alberta, Canada | Kgirl - 2016-11-01 7:44 AM
Murphy - 2016-11-01 8:26 AM You consider half siblings to be out of the same mare. Can I please hug you? It drives me bananas when people say half siblings when they are by the same stallion. No, stop it!
Haha I will gladly take a hug! But why don't you consider same stud half siblings?
Also wondering this.... by DNA they are still half siblings regardless of which half it is.... |
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Location: Kentucky | jschipper - 2016-11-01 11:08 AM Kgirl - 2016-11-01 7:44 AM Murphy - 2016-11-01 8:26 AM You consider half siblings to be out of the same mare. Can I please hug you? It drives me bananas when people say half siblings when they are by the same stallion. No, stop it! Haha I will gladly take a hug! But why don't you consider same stud half siblings? Also wondering this.... by DNA they are still half siblings regardless of which half it is....
Because a stud can produce 100+ babies a year, mares cannot. I realize the genetics are there, but the terminology is not accurate. By the same stallion would be "by the same sire". |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | Murphy - 2016-11-01 8:16 AM
jschipper - 2016-11-01 11:08 AM Kgirl - 2016-11-01 7:44 AM Murphy - 2016-11-01 8:26 AM You consider half siblings to be out of the same mare. Can I please hug you? It drives me bananas when people say half siblings when they are by the same stallion. No, stop it! Haha I will gladly take a hug! But why don't you consider same stud half siblings? Also wondering this.... by DNA they are still half siblings regardless of which half it is....
Ah, well, each to their own I suppose. I call my two mares who are 'by the same stud' sisters. And they very much are. I will continue to do so, regardless of those who think it is so wrong  |
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Location: Kentucky | jschipper - 2016-11-01 11:18 AM Murphy - 2016-11-01 8:16 AM jschipper - 2016-11-01 11:08 AM Kgirl - 2016-11-01 7:44 AM Murphy - 2016-11-01 8:26 AM You consider half siblings to be out of the same mare. Can I please hug you? It drives me bananas when people say half siblings when they are by the same stallion. No, stop it! Haha I will gladly take a hug! But why don't you consider same stud half siblings? Also wondering this.... by DNA they are still half siblings regardless of which half it is.... Ah, well, each to their own I suppose. I call my two mares who are 'by the same stud' sisters. And they very much are. I will continue to do so, regardless of those who think it is so wrong
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Location: SW North Dakota | I have full siblings. They are the same color. The end.
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Location: Deep South | This past year I broke 2 full sisters for the man who bred and raised them. They both came only halter broke, from the same environment.
They were different as night and day. Could not be more opposite.
The first was flighty, reactive, bucked HARD, took weeks of ground work before I put the first ride on her. To this day you have to pony/lunge her before you ride her or she will buck.
The second was puppy dog gentle. Follow you around the pasture. Born broke. I couldn't get a reaction or a buck out of her even when I tried and was riding her around by day 3 of training. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I have a full sibling pair, and the fact that one is a mare and one a gelding makes them different already, haha! Don’t get me wrong, they have their similarities but they are different ‘people’. :) And I love them both!
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Location: OH | jschipper - 2016-11-01 11:18 AM Murphy - 2016-11-01 8:16 AM jschipper - 2016-11-01 11:08 AM Kgirl - 2016-11-01 7:44 AM Murphy - 2016-11-01 8:26 AM You consider half siblings to be out of the same mare. Can I please hug you? It drives me bananas when people say half siblings when they are by the same stallion. No, stop it! Haha I will gladly take a hug! But why don't you consider same stud half siblings? Also wondering this.... by DNA they are still half siblings regardless of which half it is.... Ah, well, each to their own I suppose. I call my two mares who are 'by the same stud' sisters. And they very much are. I will continue to do so, regardless of those who think it is so wrong
Well---I have a maiden filly that is 8 years old and she is pregnant with her second baby. LOL. It is just the right terminology---I agree they are still 50-50 in DNA. |
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| My sister has a line of horses she loves because they are all a lot alike in the barrel pen. The first one she bought she did well with and so since he was a gelding, she bought his younger full sister. At first she thought she had made a mistake because as a 2 and 3 yr. old, she was so lazy, but once she figured out the barrels were for going fast, she turned out just like her brother. So a few years go by and she wants to bred the mare, so she buys her half sister (same mare, different stud). This mare was taller, more laid back and kind, but you got her in the alley way and she was the same as the other 2. All of these horses were WPRA money earning horses.
I think it depends on the strength of the mare line. Of course, the stallions were top quality, too. |
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