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Location: SW MO | What could cause ribs to be out in your horse? |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Nothing, because it's physiologically impossible. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I know the diagnosis of "he has a rib that's out" is pretty common, but like 1DSoon is right. You don't get subluxation or dislocation of ribs. You can get sore in a spot overlying a rib, and you can get contusions and soft tissue injuries around a rib, maybe a strained or pulled intercostal muscle, or even a fractured rib, I suppose, but, no, this idea of a rib being "out" is very inaccurate. It's a horrible term to use. |
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| Yep. I agree with 1D and Bear. Ribs can't go out. It's physically impossible for a rib to be out. It's usually the medial shoulder causing soreness in the sternum when someone refers to the rib being put. |
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Location: SW MO | Terminology aside, causes of soreness over the ribs, behind the shoulder blade? |
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| Mzbradford - 2016-11-04 11:09 AM
Terminology aside, causes of soreness over the ribs, behind the shoulder blade?
Like I said, medial shoulder being out. |
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| Shoulder or withers or neck or combo of all |
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| Our local horse chiro guy says this a lot. Just about every horse he works on has a "rib out". LOL I did ask him what causes this and he said a lot of times its when they are going through deep ground or mud. |
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Location: In a happy place | Bear - 2016-11-04 10:06 AM I know the diagnosis of "he has a rib that's out" is pretty common, but like 1DSoon is right. You don't get subluxation or dislocation of ribs. You can get sore in a spot overlying a rib, and you can get contusions and soft tissue injuries around a rib, maybe a strained or pulled intercostal muscle, or even a fractured rib, I suppose, but, no, this idea of a rib being "out" is very inaccurate. It's a horrible term to use.
I totally agree Scott.
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Location: South Central Florida | Because I live Chiropractic and never felt I had the knowledge to challenge anyone, Iv never said anything. And I don't know what they fix when they donannadjustment...but Iv looked at skeletons of a bunch of mammals and never see a hinged joint...so to me the only way it could be truly "out" would be.to be broken. I always assumed it was a soft tissue thing in the rib area, but glad to know I'm not an idiot. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | sorrel horse ranch - 2016-11-04 1:49 PM Bear - 2016-11-04 10:06 AM I know the diagnosis of "he has a rib that's out" is pretty common, but like 1DSoon is right. You don't get subluxation or dislocation of ribs. You can get sore in a spot overlying a rib, and you can get contusions and soft tissue injuries around a rib, maybe a strained or pulled intercostal muscle, or even a fractured rib, I suppose, but, no, this idea of a rib being "out" is very inaccurate. It's a horrible term to use. I totally agree Scott.
Every time someone tells me that their horse has a rib out I just kinda roll my eyes to myself, and just say oh no and leave it at that,,lol.  |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-04 8:59 PM
sorrel horse ranch - 2016-11-04 1:49 PM Bear - 2016-11-04 10:06 AM I know the diagnosis of "he has a rib that's out" is pretty common, but like 1DSoon is right. You don't get subluxation or dislocation of ribs. You can get sore in a spot overlying a rib, and you can get contusions and soft tissue injuries around a rib, maybe a strained or pulled intercostal muscle, or even a fractured rib, I suppose, but, no, this idea of a rib being "out" is very inaccurate. It's a horrible term to use. I totally agree Scott.
Good way to handle it because any person that does manipulation uses that term, and frequently. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Question. People ribs doesn't have joints either but there was one time that a rib was giving me so much problems I couldn't hardly breath laugh or cough til chiro pushed on my rib just right and instantly there was no pain it was one rib. Could it not be the same on a horse? |
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Location: Texas | I'm not going to repeat what Bear already covered because that's all true. Ribs don't go "out" but that doesn't mean there's not a handful of things that could be causing "rib pain" in the horse. and by rib pain I'm thinking soft tissue structures, ill fitting saddle, etc. I'm not very strong on my chiropractic stuff.
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Location: Texas | Turnburnsis - 2016-11-06 12:10 PM
Question. People ribs doesn't have joints either but there was one time that a rib was giving me so much problems I couldn't hardly breath laugh or cough til chiro pushed on my rib just right and instantly there was no pain it was one rib. Could it not be the same on a horse?
Ribs do have joints, where they attach to the vertebrae. I think the strength required to dislocate an equine rib would result in so much trauma there would be other more severe injuries, is my speculation. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | My equine massage therapist always said the term is not used properly but the pain is very real and is caused from muscles being messed up. Back in the late 80's I had what felt like a rib out and the pain was awful. I had pulled a muscle when I was doing something stupid. My horse's chiro did an adjustment on my back and I had instant relief. |
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Location: Texas | Nevertooold - 2016-11-06 5:36 PM
My equine massage therapist always said the term is not used properly but the pain is very real and is caused from muscles being messed up. Back in the late 80's I had what felt like a rib out and the pain was awful. I had pulled a muscle when I was doing something stupid. My horse's chiro did an adjustment on my back and I had instant relief.
I totally believe it. My mom injured her rib over the summer. The pain was so bad she was sure it was broken. It wasn't, she just pulled a muscle. But for weeks she was in a ton of pain while the muscle healed. |
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Location: TEXAS | turnthree - 2016-11-04 1:44 PM
Our local horse chiro guy says this a lot. Just about every horse he works on has a "rib out". LOL I did ask him what causes this and he said a lot of times its when they are going through deep ground or mud.
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| Nevertooold - 2016-11-06 4:36 PM My equine massage therapist always said the term is not used properly but the pain is very real and is caused from muscles being messed up. Back in the late 80's I had what felt like a rib out and the pain was awful. I had pulled a muscle when I was doing something stupid. My horse's chiro did an adjustment on my back and I had instant relief.
100% agree with this... just because someone uses the term "out" to describe rib pain in their horse doesn't bother me. We know they are referring to pain so why beat a dead horse.  But anyway, it is usually a reaction from other joints and muscles, like NTO said.  |
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