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| So below is a link to a news article where a member of the Electoral College is starting a Dump Trump movement and encouraging other members to NOT vote how the voters have commanded them to. He vows to write in either Kasich or Romney...if he gets enough (two have already said they would NOT vote as the election in their respective states have voted them to do) Hillary could conceivably be President. IMHO, they should pay a heavy price (jail maybe??) for not voting as the results of the election has told them to do.
How can we stop this? Anyone know?? I have no idea who the people representing my state in the EC are.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/two-presidential-electors-to...
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | rodeoveteran - 2016-11-14 7:56 PM So below is a link to a news article where a member of the Electoral College is starting a Dump Trump movement and encouraging other members to NOT vote how the voters have commanded them to. He vows to write in either Kasich or Romney...if he gets enough (two have already said they would NOT vote as the election in their respective states have voted them to do ) Hillary could conceivably be President. IMHO, they should pay a heavy price (jail maybe?? ) for not voting as the results of the election has told them to do. How can we stop this? Anyone know?? I have no idea who the people representing my state in the EC are. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/two-presidential-electors-to...
I don't know how they can stop them from trying but I don't think they would want to see how the people who voted for Tump would handle it.  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. This idea of an elector going rogue has been toyed with before. Nothing will come of it, except a lot of people will waste time fretting. |
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Location: Texas | Internet (probably Facebook) B.S. |
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Location: Ky | rodeoveteran - 2016-11-14 7:56 PM So below is a link to a news article where a member of the Electoral College is starting a Dump Trump movement and encouraging other members to NOT vote how the voters have commanded them to. He vows to write in either Kasich or Romney...if he gets enough (two have already said they would NOT vote as the election in their respective states have voted them to do ) Hillary could conceivably be President. IMHO, they should pay a heavy price (jail maybe?? ) for not voting as the results of the election has told them to do. How can we stop this? Anyone know?? I have no idea who the people representing my state in the EC are. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/two-presidential-electors-to...
Jail? Seriously? It's not illegal for electors to vote differently than committed by the vote. And Clinton won the popular vote.
But, it's not going to happen. There may be a rogue elector or two? Trump won the election and will be certified. It's much ado about nothing.
As a country we have to accept that Trump is the president and if we can't support him then don't get in his way either. |
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| RocketPilot - 2016-11-14 9:57 PM
Internet (probably Facebook) B.S.Â
It was on my MSN news crawl, not FB....but maybe THEY got it from FB. You never know these days.
Edited to add...My jail maybe comment might be a knee jerk reaction but I am so OVER politicians. ALL of them. They say they will do one thing then do what ever the heck they want. SOMEONE needs to be held accountable, I have to be accountable for my actions and promises, why do they constantly get a free pass. Sigh, glad that I only have maybe 8 more Presidential election cycles to go through. If I had a kid that said they wanted to become a politician I might have to disown them. lol.
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| Absentee ballots need to be counted. My understanding is they are only counted in some if not most states when there are more absentee ballots than the margin of victory. I also read somewhere that absentee ballots have historically swing republican.
So if we actually counted all the votes, she may not have even won the popular vote.
It's also something to be aware of when deciding to vote absentee - your vote may actually not count. That's some BS in my opinion. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | All this fretting over absentee ballots is an exercise in futility. There seems to be a lot of myths circulating out there regarding a couple of rogue EC electors, absentee ballots, who won the popular vote, etc...
The outcome of the election is determined. The EC votes in about a month. Trump won the election. There is no "wheeling and dealing" of EC votes. All absentee ballots are eventually counted within a month of the election, even if those votes stand no chance of effecting the outcome in a given states.
Hillary is still crying, curled up in a catatonic state. She will not be president.
Trump is busy trying to put together his cabinet, and his early agenda.
Obama just wants to get the hell out of the WH and back to community organizing and golf.
Most of us are breathing a sigh of relief.....for the time being. |
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| I can only HOPE that Obama wants to go home and play golf. I read somewhere that he was being or after the position of UN president (the current one is leaving soon?). Either he or Hillary scares me in that position. I do NOT know how the UN works, as to how one becomes a nation's representative. We to much power over to the Un over the years....do I remember Hillary or someone else at least wanting to place our children under their jurisdiction.
I used to think the UN was a good thing and would wonder at the "Get US out of the UN" signs I occasionally see, now I agree.
The point being that there are places he can still do damage (Hillary too, tho' there is the age thing), so I can only hope that his influence will go away.
I do not really fear that Trump will lose the EC, he has a strong enough lead (I hope). It is just the fact that they can not vote for who they are sent there to vote for. Really piffs me off. In a nutshell, why I HATE politics. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | rodeoveteran - 2016-11-15 8:51 AM
I can only HOPE that Obama wants to go home and play golf. I read somewhere that he was being or after the position of UN president (the current one is leaving soon?). Either he or Hillary scares me in that position. I do NOT know how the UN works, as to how one becomes a nation's representative. We to much power over to the Un over the years....do I remember Hillary or someone else at least wanting to place our children under their jurisdiction.
I used to think the UN was a good thing and would wonder at the "Get US out of the UN" signs I occasionally see, now I agree.
The point being that there are places he can still do damage (Hillary too, tho' there is the age thing), so I can only hope that his influence will go away.
I do not really fear that Trump will lose the EC, he has a strong enough lead (I hope). It is just the fact that they can not vote for who they are sent there to vote for. Really piffs me off. In a nutshell, why I HATE politics.
The UN has been largely impotent since it's inception. Most "peace keeping" efforts have been weak and limp-wristed. Theoretically, at least, they have played some humanitarian roles, but even those efforts are corrupt because of the vermin that run the organization. The "oil-for-food" scandal is a classic example. Violations of UN resolutions are commonplace. They have no teeth.
The U.S. pays for roughly 1/4 of the entire UN budget, out of roughly 200 member states. Our GDP increase in recent years has been a paltry 1-2%, while China's has been on the order of 8-9%, yet China pays about 5% of the UN's budget.
The UN, theoretically, could be an effective organization, but they are not. They need to have their feet held to the fire, because the U.S. has been doing their job for them and paying a disproportionate share of the bills. We can't afford to do it anymore. They need to step up, or relocate somewhere that might motivate them more effectively....like Jerulsalem or Beiruit, for example. |
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Location: Back in MT BABY!!! | This happend during the Clinton election for us years ago...Montana of course voted republican and our 3 electoral votes when casted went to Bill. :(
Never did hear anything on repercussion from this. Over all not a big deal...Bill did win the election and our 3 votes don't sway an election one way or another...but this year it could have a big impact. |
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| The USA should walk away from the UNITED NATIONS as it is a body of anti USA muslim countries these days and the UN wants and is meddling in our business and politics. There is no sense of funding our enemies. ALSO the UNITED NATIONS SHOULD BE FORCED TO MOVE THEIR SPIES OUT OF THE USA TO ONE OF THEIR ISLAMIC COUNTRIES. The crazy part is we allow them to enjoy our freedoms while they are trying to take us down ... grrrrr
HISTORY LESSON ON ELECTORAL COLLEGE AND WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT!!
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/883270108382513/ |
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Location: Kansas | There's no sore loser like a liberal sore loser. Obama was in Greece today telling folks who didn't give a rats butt how Republicans had been taken in by Trump rhetoric (in so many words). When you're speaking in another country you should not make a division between Republicans and Democrats......we're all Americans.
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| OBAMA IS AT HOME ...... WHEN HE IS OUT PANHANDLING OTHER COUNTRIES TO PROVIDE FUNDS FOR HIS TRUMP ATTACK OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS .......
SO GET USED TO HIM BEING IN THE UNITED NATIONS AS SECRETARY GENERAL BY 2018 AND ON TV ALL THE TIME ...
SPEWING HIS COMMUNISTIC ISLAMIC CRAP ... WHILE USING THE UN TO BOLSTER HIS ATTACK AND USE THEIR ONE WORLD AGENDA TO USE AS AN ATTACK ON THE USA ....
TIME TO KICK THE UN OUT OF THE USA AND NO MORE FUNDING
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| Well since the electoral college is part of the Constitution...they might have a tough time changing it. |
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| Frodo - 2016-11-15 3:16 PM
There's no sore loser like a liberal sore loser. Obama was in Greece today telling folks who didn't give a rats butt how Republicans had been taken in by Trump rhetoric (in so many words).  When you're speaking in another country you should not make a division between Republicans and Democrats......we're all Americans.Â
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In MY view, Obozo has NO clue what a REAL American even IS. I don't think he's EVER wanted for the good of this country, it was all HIS agenda that mattered. |
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Location: Florida | At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Vickie - 2016-11-16 6:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party.
I have always supported the electoral college because I actually understand how it works. We are not a democracy,we're a republic, and that's a Good Thing. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Vickie - 2016-11-16 6:32 PM
At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. Â If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? Â I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Â Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Â Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party.Â
Sour grapes, Vickie?
I have news for you, buttercup. The electoral college is based upon a compromise that kept the United States of America "united" when this country was born. Are you aware of that fact? I've never ever been in favor of a straight popular vote in presidential elections.
Are you even remotely aware of the principles behind the Electoral College?
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