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| The American and RFD-tv have me shaking my head. Remember them saying to vote for your favorite people? Turns out that was just a lie. Patrick Gottsch hand picked the contestants. Sarah Rose McDonald, who won it last year, wasn't invited. But Mary Walker, with a not so great NFR showing, was. Kassie Mowry and Ashley Shaffer for placing high in the ERA weren't invited. But Chayni and Fallon were.
The real kicker? Tuf Cooper, who rigged The American 2 years ago, was taken to court over it....he was invited. Sorry to all the Tuf Cooper fans, but what he did was criminal and he should have been banned for life from this particular rodeo, JMHO.
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| I'm really surprised he wasn't. If I put on a show and someone tried to rig it...yeah they for sure wouldn't be back! Crowd favorite or not! |
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| They took the top 6 from WPRA, but I sure can't figure out how/why the rest were invited. Ashley Shaffer was not familiar to me till the ERA and quickly became one of my favorite riders. I love her quiet style. Wow, Kassie won all 3 rounds at the championship. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2016-12-15 5:49 AM
They took the top 6 from WPRA, but I sure can't figure out how/why the rest were invited. Ashley Shaffer was not familiar to me till the ERA and quickly became one of my favorite riders. I love her quiet style. Wow, Kassie won all 3 rounds at the championship.
They didn't take just the top 6 because Mary Walker was invited and she ended up 14th. So they took the top 6 plus Mary Walker along with Fallon, Chayni and Kassidy Dennison from the ERA. While Lisa was on both lists, that still doesn't explain Mary Walker.
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| SKM - 2016-12-15 6:56 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-12-15 5:49 AM They took the top 6 from WPRA, but I sure can't figure out how/why the rest were invited. Ashley Shaffer was not familiar to me till the ERA and quickly became one of my favorite riders. I love her quiet style. Wow, Kassie won all 3 rounds at the championship. They didn't take just the top 6 because Mary Walker was invited and she ended up 14th. So they took the top 6 plus Mary Walker along with Fallon, Chayni and Kassidy Dennison from the ERA. While Lisa was on both lists, that still doesn't explain Mary Walker.
Yes, why I said I can't figure out why the rest were invited-maybe they were voted in, clever move since no one can prove anything. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2016-12-15 6:11 AM
SKM - 2016-12-15 6:56 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-12-15 5:49 AM They took the top 6 from WPRA, but I sure can't figure out how/why the rest were invited. Ashley Shaffer was not familiar to me till the ERA and quickly became one of my favorite riders. I love her quiet style. Wow, Kassie won all 3 rounds at the championship. They didn't take just the top 6 because Mary Walker was invited and she ended up 14th. So they took the top 6 plus Mary Walker along with Fallon, Chayni and Kassidy Dennison from the ERA. While Lisa was on both lists, that still doesn't explain Mary Walker.
Yes, why I said I can't figure out why the rest were invited-maybe they were voted in, clever move since no one can prove anything.
According to their own rules, they were taking the top from the NFR and ERA. So if they had followed their own rules, Chayni and Mary Walker wouldn't have been invited and Kassie Mowry would have. I know on the one FB page it was said that Gottsch hand picked the contestants.
Guess that explains why Tuf is there... No one cares about the rules they have so who cares if they get broken? |
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Location: TN | Its so sad. A good concept and they are screwing it up. Just like when what was his name...Ray Scott tried to tell the board members of the BFA years ago how to do our slot races so that each year they'd be worth more but we screwed it up. |
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| SKM - 2016-12-15 7:19 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-12-15 6:11 AM SKM - 2016-12-15 6:56 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-12-15 5:49 AM They took the top 6 from WPRA, but I sure can't figure out how/why the rest were invited. Ashley Shaffer was not familiar to me till the ERA and quickly became one of my favorite riders. I love her quiet style. Wow, Kassie won all 3 rounds at the championship. They didn't take just the top 6 because Mary Walker was invited and she ended up 14th. So they took the top 6 plus Mary Walker along with Fallon, Chayni and Kassidy Dennison from the ERA. While Lisa was on both lists, that still doesn't explain Mary Walker. Yes, why I said I can't figure out why the rest were invited-maybe they were voted in, clever move since no one can prove anything. According to their own rules, they were taking the top from the NFR and ERA. So if they had followed their own rules, Chayni and Mary Walker wouldn't have been invited and Kassie Mowry would have. I know on the one FB page it was said that Gottsch hand picked the contestants. Guess that explains why Tuf is there... No one cares about the rules they have so who cares if they get broken?
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| 1paintedjewel - 2016-12-15 6:41 AM
I think Kassie had already qualified.
She has to survive the semi's. These others are all a free by pass of Ft Worth. I think I'd rather go instead of trying to make it through the semi's myself. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | I havent kept up on things with The American this year so feel so out of the loop. I dont understand what this 10 invitee's is? Is this the 10 invitee's INSTEAD of the top 10 in the world from the WPRA???? Or is this another 10 on top of the top 10? |
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| SKM - 2016-12-15 7:57 AM 1paintedjewel - 2016-12-15 6:41 AM I think Kassie had already qualified. She has to survive the semi's. These others are all a free by pass of Ft Worth. I think I'd rather go instead of trying to make it through the semi's myself.
I guess they did follow the rules if Kassie opted out. I see the risk but what a rare opportunity to possibly run for the big $$. |
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Location: lone star state | I just can't get past Tuff Cooper being invited. Makes me question the integrity of The American....Randy you are missed by the fans! |
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | firewaterfuelsme - 2016-12-15 8:18 AM
I just can't get past Tuff Cooper being invited. Makes me question the integrity of The American....Randy you are missed by the fans!
I think all professional rodeo associations should ban him, and the other two that colluded with him, for life. I don't think there's anything worse a competitor can do than what they did. JMO. |
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Location: Deep South | I was also highly disappointed in the way it was handled. It seems like Patrick selected contestants purely based on who has the highest number of twitter followers... |
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| Calangelo - 2016-12-15 8:35 AM
firewaterfuelsme - 2016-12-15 8:18 AM
I just can't get past Tuff Cooper being invited. Makes me question the integrity of The American....Randy you are missed by the fans!
I think all professional rodeo associations should ban him, and the other two that colluded with him, for life. I don't think there's anything worse a competitor can do than what they did. JMO.
I am a fan of Tuf Cooper, by no means a die-hard fan. But has anyone actually seen any of the affidavits or anything from that court case? From my understanding there was a hush hush settlement and no details are known (unless I missed something). So maybe there is more to the story and more to why Tuf was invited back. Just saying, we weren't provided all the facts. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | stayceem - 2016-12-15 9:45 AM Calangelo - 2016-12-15 8:35 AM firewaterfuelsme - 2016-12-15 8:18 AM I just can't get past Tuff Cooper being invited. Makes me question the integrity of The American....Randy you are missed by the fans! I think all professional rodeo associations should ban him, and the other two that colluded with him, for life. I don't think there's anything worse a competitor can do than what they did. JMO. I am a fan of Tuf Cooper, by no means a die-hard fan. But has anyone actually seen any of the affidavits or anything from that court case? From my understanding there was a hush hush settlement and no details are known (unless I missed something ). So maybe there is more to the story and more to why Tuf was invited back. Just saying, we weren't provided all the facts.
the only fact you need is the "FACT" that he attempted to alter the outcome of the event.
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| SKM - 2016-12-15 7:19 AM
rodeomom3 - 2016-12-15 6:11 AM
SKM - 2016-12-15 6:56 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-12-15 5:49 AM They took the top 6 from WPRA, but I sure can't figure out how/why the rest were invited. Ashley Shaffer was not familiar to me till the ERA and quickly became one of my favorite riders. I love her quiet style. Wow, Kassie won all 3 rounds at the championship. They didn't take just the top 6 because Mary Walker was invited and she ended up 14th. So they took the top 6 plus Mary Walker along with Fallon, Chayni and Kassidy Dennison from the ERA. While Lisa was on both lists, that still doesn't explain Mary Walker.
Yes, why I said I can't figure out why the rest were invited-maybe they were voted in, clever move since no one can prove anything.
According to their own rules, they were taking the top from the NFR and ERA. So if they had followed their own rules, Chayni and Mary Walker wouldn't have been invited and Kassie Mowry would have. I know on the one FB page it was said that Gottsch hand picked the contestants.
Guess that explains why Tuf is there... No one cares about the rules they have so who cares if they get broken?
Yeah, for these reasons I am not going to insist to my family we watch it. If I'm not busy and the Spurs aren't playing maybe I'll watch. I am tired of professional athletics and now rodeo is becoming no different. Back in the day our coaches told us they were holding us to a higher standard because it was a privilege to be on the team, and the other kids looked to us for leadership. We had to set the example. My mom always told me this, too, as I was the eldest. How can we expect our kids to become honest, hardworking, ethical people if we encourage them to admire people who aren't? How can we as parents look our kids in the eye and demand they hold to a higher standard than the people we let them look up to?
I guess we can look at it as teaching tool for our kids that no one is perfect and we all have our troubles and vices and just because you are really good at something, it doesn't make you a good person. |
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| 1DSoon - 2016-12-15 8:49 AM
stayceem - 2016-12-15 9:45 AM Calangelo - 2016-12-15 8:35 AM firewaterfuelsme - 2016-12-15 8:18 AM I just can't get past Tuff Cooper being invited. Makes me question the integrity of The American....Randy you are missed by the fans! I think all professional rodeo associations should ban him, and the other two that colluded with him, for life. I don't think there's anything worse a competitor can do than what they did. JMO. I am a fan of Tuf Cooper, by no means a die-hard fan. But has anyone actually seen any of the affidavits or anything from that court case? From my understanding there was a hush hush settlement and no details are known (unless I missed something ). So maybe there is more to the story and more to why Tuf was invited back. Just saying, we weren't provided all the facts.
See... as someone who works in the legal field... I have a really hard time taking anything I see on social media to heart without seeing the actual documents. The only think I can confirm is the fact that he was accused of it and it is now settled.
This is the only FACT I know. But it wouldn't matter if this was Tuf or something I don't know from adam. My feelings would remain the same. |
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| 1DSoon - 2016-12-15 8:49 AM
stayceem - 2016-12-15 9:45 AM Calangelo - 2016-12-15 8:35 AM firewaterfuelsme - 2016-12-15 8:18 AM I just can't get past Tuff Cooper being invited. Makes me question the integrity of The American....Randy you are missed by the fans! I think all professional rodeo associations should ban him, and the other two that colluded with him, for life. I don't think there's anything worse a competitor can do than what they did. JMO. I am a fan of Tuf Cooper, by no means a die-hard fan. But has anyone actually seen any of the affidavits or anything from that court case? From my understanding there was a hush hush settlement and no details are known (unless I missed something ). So maybe there is more to the story and more to why Tuf was invited back. Just saying, we weren't provided all the facts.
Roy's on camera reaction to his son's time was enough for me. It was clear Roy had no idea why he roped so cautiously, and was clearly dumbfounded by the outcome. It was clear something foul had just happened. |
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