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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | Can anyone here please share personal experiences with different types of barns? Metal building vs wood or anything else you've had that you really liked? I will be building a barn soon, and I just can't decide what I want to build. I would love to have an ICF or cinder block barn for its storm resistance, but I don't think I will be able to afford one. I live in south Louisiana, so heat and hurricanes are my biggest worries.
I'd prefer a fully enclosed barn. I have a shedrow style now and I don't care much for that. I spend a lot of time in there, especially when it's raining, and I'd like to be more out of the weather. Most of the metal buildings I've been in are ten degrees colder in the winter and hotter in the summer. But, it could have been because of how they were or weren't insulated. I have never considered barn building before, so I never paid much attention to that.
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     Location: Pelham, TN | We built a metal 40x60 fully enclosed and insulated the roof. Our stalls are down one side 12x12 with a back opening in each to a large individual run. We put in sky light and really like them. Love that the builder talked us into one piece sliding doors. We built our tall and the loft is not over the horse stalls just on the tack room side. Stays cool in summer and pretty comfy in winter. We live in TN where the winds blows across our hill constant! |
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        Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | We have large plexiglass windows in the east end of our barn on the doors and wish we had them on the west end also. they let in a ton of natural light and save on electricity. |
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | Thanks for the feedback on the metal building. I'm thinking the insulation is a must have, if I'm going to go that route. Great ideas on the skylight & plexiglass, too! |
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      Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Whatever type barn you build, be sure to select a site that is high and do dirt work to build up the site further. Also, install gutters. You want water to drain away quickly and avoid a barn and turn-outs in mud holes..... Put in a walk-out door as well as your big doors - have a barn aisle at least 12 feet wide. And fans - install good barn fans. Discuss ventilation with your builder. |
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| Delta Cowgirl - 2017-01-04 6:28 AM Whatever type barn you build, be sure to select a site that is high and do dirt work to build up the site further. Also, install gutters. You want water to drain away quickly and avoid a barn and turn-outs in mud holes..... Put in a walk-out door as well as your big doors - have a barn aisle at least 12 feet wide. And fans - install good barn fans. Discuss ventilation with your builder.
Ditto, we put ours on a pad and also have gutters. Have the roof pitch as high as you can and vented to let out the heat. I live in southeast Texas and have an open barn but I am far enough off the coast that hurricanes are not a concern for me. |
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | I would insulate the roof for sure, helps with summer heat and condensation dripping from your roof on those foggy mornings. I really like Robicheaux Farms barns, I would maybe extend the roof off the sides a little more than they have, but they are nice and breezy when its hot. |
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      Location: North Dakota | We are admidst planning with our contractor for the barn we are building this spring. We are going with a 40x72 pole frame structure, with a 12 ft (side enclosed) lean off the south side. We went with 14ft sidewalls, with raised trusses, to allow a tractor to pull all the way through. The south side, where they have free access, will have 4ft treated pine kick plates up the wall and on the lean sides. We've decided to install a 12x14 roll up door on each end and each door will have 4 windows in it, to allow more light in. We have a separate door into the tack room, and there will be a sliding door on the south end, under the lean, to allow me to bring the horses into the barn from their corral. We've planned for 6 poly panels on the north side of the barn and two on each end to allow more natural light. We are putting in a 12x16 tack and feed room (concrete floors) and 4, 12x12 Hi Qual stalls, dirt floors, with mats. It's set up to have about a 15ft alley way by the time construction is finished. Not sure yet what I'll do for the alley way flooring..contemplating concrete, covered with mats, but we'll see. I'll have a 32x40 area in the back to store the bobcat and likely a round bale or two during the winter. I will likely use that area for ground work, round penning, etc. We decided to not insulate at this time. Our horses do pretty good in the winter as long as we can get them out of the wind and keep them dry. To prevent condensation there is a substance that will be sprayed on the steel, while in the factory; I forget what it's called off the top of my head. We have to talk to our electrician about types and where to place the overhead lighting and electrical outlets. So far that is what's in the works. I'm so excited to get started I can barely contain myself.
If anyone wants to suggest good flooring options for the alley and stalls we are most certainly open to suggestions. I live in ND so we have access to pretty much a wide variety of ground that can be taken off our ranch, however sand is the most prevalent in my neck of the woods. |
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  Location: Four Corners Colorado | If your horses are stalled a lot go for oversized stalls. I prefer 16 x 16 minimum. For foaling stalls in my new barn I am considering 20x 20 or 24 x 24 |
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | Delta Cowgirl - 2017-01-04 6:28 AM
Whatever type barn you build, be sure to select a site that is high and do dirt work to build up the site further. Also, install gutters. You want water to drain away quickly and avoid a barn and turn-outs in mud holes..... Put in a walk-out door as well as your big doors - have a barn aisle at least 12 feet wide. And fans - install good barn fans. Discuss ventilation with your builder.
Thanks for the info. I definitely have all of that on my list! I just need to make up my mind about what kind of barn I want. |
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | rodeomom3 - 2017-01-04 7:43 AM
Delta Cowgirl - 2017-01-04 6:28 AM Whatever type barn you build, be sure to select a site that is high and do dirt work to build up the site further. Also, install gutters. You want water to drain away quickly and avoid a barn and turn-outs in mud holes..... Put in a walk-out door as well as your big doors - have a barn aisle at least 12 feet wide. And fans - install good barn fans. Discuss ventilation with your builder.
 Ditto, we put ours on a pad and also have gutters. Have the  roof pitch as high as you can and vented to let out the heat.  I live in southeast Texas and have an open barn but I am far enough off the coast that hurricanes are not a concern for me.
Open barn? Like a shed row style barn? How do you like it? I know open style barns are better for air flow, but I dislike almost everything else about them. (Wind-blown rain, cold in the winter with no way to really get in out of the weather, etc.) Also, do you prefer the open style because of things you disliked about other barns you've had? |
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2017-01-04 10:23 AM
We are admidst planning with our contractor for the barn we are building this spring. We are going with a 40x72 pole frame structure, with a 12 ft (side enclosed) lean off the south side. We went with 14ft sidewalls, with raised trusses, to allow a tractor to pull all the way through.  The south side, where they have free access, will have 4ft treated pine kick plates up the wall and on the lean sides. We've decided to install a 12x14 roll up door on each end and each door will have 4 windows in it, to allow more light in. We have a separate door into the tack room, and there will be a sliding door on the south end, under the lean, to allow me to bring the horses into the barn from their corral. We've planned for 6 poly panels on the north side of the barn and two on each end to allow more natural light. We are putting in a 12x16 tack and feed room (concrete floors) and 4, 12x12 Hi Qual stalls, dirt floors, with mats. It's set up to have about a 15ft alley way by the time construction is finished. Not sure yet what I'll do for the alley way flooring..contemplating concrete, covered with mats, but we'll see.  I'll have a 32x40 area in the back to store the bobcat and likely a round bale or two during the winter. I will likely use that area for ground work, round penning, etc. We decided to not insulate at this time. Our horses do pretty good in the winter as long as we can get them out of the wind and keep them dry. To prevent condensation there is a substance that will be sprayed on the steel, while in the factory; I forget what it's called off the top of my head. We have to talk to our electrician about types and where to place the overhead lighting and electrical outlets. So far that is what's in the works. I'm so excited to get started I can barely contain myself.
If anyone wants to suggest good flooring options for the alley and stalls we are most certainly open to suggestions. I live in ND so we have access to pretty much a wide variety of ground that can be taken off our ranch, however sand is the most prevalent in my neck of the woods. Â
I'm excited for you! We are still a little ways out from our build. I am definitely going with a concrete hallway. Too much mud down here and I love how clean I can get a concrete area. Probably 12' hallway. I'm going to build as long a structure as I can afford. I would love to be able to have a walker or round pen in the same building. Just have to decide how wide I want it to be. But, then again, cost will determine whatever we do. I don't think I am going to have the barn fully accessible to the horses. I want to have a run-in shelter they can go in out in the pasture. But, they have access to my barn now and they are a pain! They get into stuff, keep it muddy and just generally make pests of themselves when I'm trying to do anything in there, lol. |
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      Location: Lewisburg, Tennessee | WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2017-01-04 9:23 AM We are admidst planning with our contractor for the barn we are building this spring. We are going with a 40x72 pole frame structure, with a 12 ft (side enclosed) lean off the south side. We went with 14ft sidewalls, with raised trusses, to allow a tractor to pull all the way through. The south side, where they have free access, will have 4ft treated pine kick plates up the wall and on the lean sides. We've decided to install a 12x14 roll up door on each end and each door will have 4 windows in it, to allow more light in. We have a separate door into the tack room, and there will be a sliding door on the south end, under the lean, to allow me to bring the horses into the barn from their corral. We've planned for 6 poly panels on the north side of the barn and two on each end to allow more natural light. We are putting in a 12x16 tack and feed room (concrete floors) and 4, 12x12 Hi Qual stalls, dirt floors, with mats. It's set up to have about a 15ft alley way by the time construction is finished. Not sure yet what I'll do for the alley way flooring..contemplating concrete, covered with mats, but we'll see. I'll have a 32x40 area in the back to store the bobcat and likely a round bale or two during the winter. I will likely use that area for ground work, round penning, etc. We decided to not insulate at this time. Our horses do pretty good in the winter as long as we can get them out of the wind and keep them dry. To prevent condensation there is a substance that will be sprayed on the steel, while in the factory; I forget what it's called off the top of my head. We have to talk to our electrician about types and where to place the overhead lighting and electrical outlets. So far that is what's in the works. I'm so excited to get started I can barely contain myself.
If anyone wants to suggest good flooring options for the alley and stalls we are most certainly open to suggestions. I live in ND so we have access to pretty much a wide variety of ground that can be taken off our ranch, however sand is the most prevalent in my neck of the woods.
You didn't put any thought into those plans, did you??? (Btw - you live in North Dakota....when are you ever going to change your username??)
Not to totally hi-jack the thread, but I'm interested in new flooring for our stalls too - been looking at Stall Saver mats. |
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      Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Sounds like it will be an awesome barn! Are you planning a wash area with a hot water heater? I'd certainly recommend a hot water heater.
I have concrete in my alley with mats on top. Really like it. Easy to sweep and keep clean. My stalls open to the south with a 12 ft lean-to loafing shed and each stall has a 12x48 run with a gate at end that opens to allow the horses access to a small turn-out pasture and each small turn-out pasture links to individual large pastures -- so each horse has lots of personal turn-out space and pasture which helps with hay / feed costs. In the summer I typically keep the horses in out of the sun -- typically June - August with free-choice hay and fans.
I am down to just two horses now with plans to stay at only two. I like to keep my horses separated since it is safer for me to handle and feed them -- and they don't get nicked and scarred from playing and acting stupid. All turn-outs and pastures are electro braid fencing. |
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| Nita - 2017-01-05 1:56 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-01-04 7:43 AM Delta Cowgirl - 2017-01-04 6:28 AM Whatever type barn you build, be sure to select a site that is high and do dirt work to build up the site further. Also, install gutters. You want water to drain away quickly and avoid a barn and turn-outs in mud holes..... Put in a walk-out door as well as your big doors - have a barn aisle at least 12 feet wide. And fans - install good barn fans. Discuss ventilation with your builder. Ditto, we put ours on a pad and also have gutters. Have the roof pitch as high as you can and vented to let out the heat. I live in southeast Texas and have an open barn but I am far enough off the coast that hurricanes are not a concern for me. Open barn? Like a shed row style barn? How do you like it? I know open style barns are better for air flow, but I dislike almost everything else about them. (Wind-blown rain, cold in the winter with no way to really get in out of the weather, etc. ) Also, do you prefer the open style because of things you disliked about other barns you've had? Both of my barns have been open barns-LOVE THEM. It is not like a shed row barn. It is a regular barn with a center alley. The front part of the barn it's all enclosed, on one side of the alley is a 15 by 10 feed room next to a 15 x 10 hay storage, directly across from that is a 20 x 20 storage room with a big door. Step down into the alley where there are 4 stalls - two 15 x 15 stalls on each side of the alleyway. There are no sidewalls -I extended an overhang down to 9 feet. There is a 20' overhang on the south side of the barn that blocks rain from blowing into the end stalls. The stalls always have a breeze and are not stifling in the summer.
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       Location: Bandera, TX | My husband has built some pretty nifty barns. I have to say that my favorites are the block buildings. Concrete isles at least 14'. The breeze way tall enough to pull the rig into so you can unload in a down pour. You want at least a foot of vent space in your region from the top block to the roof overhang to allow for proper airflow. Metal get hot and stays hot...Insulate the heck out of the roof over the stalls if horses are to stay inside. The block barns are cool in the summer and hold warmth in the winter. Make sure that you have a place in the center of the barn for a utility closet. It's amazing all the walking you'll save by that. Place your stocks in a place large enough that your vet can pull right up with their truck and not have to walk back and forth in emergency. Place a pit very near the barn for shavings. But not attached due to fire.
I'm having my goat sheds build out of block at the ranch simply because they are indestructable. They should last a life time and hardly have any maintence.
I have to have large gate on our next barn so I can take a small tractor up the stall turn outs and clean the stall and then rack out the run. Less back labor...
Flooring, center isle concrete and the stall floors in tamped clay with mats on top. Underneath the stalls going out to a drain field approx 30' from your barn a french drain system.
You might want to look into large bifold doors to close on your windward side during storms.
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| Delta Cowgirl - 2017-01-05 5:47 PM Sounds like it will be an awesome barn! Are you planning a wash area with a hot water heater? I'd certainly recommend a hot water heater. I have concrete in my alley with mats on top. Really like it. Easy to sweep and keep clean. My stalls open to the south with a 12 ft lean-to loafing shed and each stall has a 12x48 run with a gate at end that opens to allow the horses access to a small turn-out pasture and each small turn-out pasture links to individual large pastures -- so each horse has lots of personal turn-out space and pasture which helps with hay / feed costs. In the summer I typically keep the horses in out of the sun -- typically June - August with free-choice hay and fans. I am down to just two horses now with plans to stay at only two. I like to keep my horses separated since it is safer for me to handle and feed them -- and they don't get nicked and scarred from playing and acting stupid. All turn-outs and pastures are electro braid fencing.
I have a concrete alleyway that is scored so it is not slick when wet.
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I like that. I had not considered that option, but I'm certainly going to look into it further. |
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | Delta Cowgirl - 2017-01-05 5:47 PM
Sounds like it will be an awesome barn! Are you planning a wash area with a hot water heater? I'd certainly recommend a hot water heater.
I have concrete in my alley with mats on top. Really like it. Easy to sweep and keep clean. My stalls open to the south with a 12 ft lean-to loafing shed and each stall has a 12x48 run with a gate at end that opens to allow the horses access to a small turn-out pasture and each small turn-out pasture links to individual large pastures -- so each horse has lots of personal turn-out space and pasture which helps with hay / feed costs. In the summer I typically keep the horses in out of the sun -- typically June - August with free-choice hay and fans.
I am down to just two horses now with plans to stay at only two. I like to keep my horses separated since it is safer for me to handle and feed them -- and they don't get nicked and scarred from playing and acting stupid. All turn-outs and pastures are electro braid fencing.
Yes, definitely hot water in the wash rack. I would love to put in at least a small office, or efficiency apartment. At the very least, I want a bathroom. I might not get that when I first build it, but I will at least build with plans of adding that later. |
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