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| I have a young friend who has a very broke barrel horse with a few issues. She's been boarding and riding with me since early fall. One of the horses issues was that he wouldn't pick up his right lead unless he was already loping in the left lead and you asked for a flying lead change. He's been for a fair bit of chiro and massage with a very reputable person, and it made very little difference. She just got his hocks done on Friday (after a full lameness exam) and although it hasn't made any difference yet, I expect that in another week we will start seeing a difference.
My question is in regards to his attitude and cool out time. This horse ALWAYS looks sad and depressed. He is on very high quality feed and mineral, lives in a pasture with two other horses, his owner takes very good care of him and lovess on him a lot, and he is in excellent shape. When she is done riding him he will often take 2 hours to cool out and dry off, and he will just stand with his head kind of hanging and not move a muscle... she usually leaves him standing with no halter or anything and even if other horses are loose and being crazy he'll just stand there panting and looking sad. The vet figured he *might* have ulcers, but aside from being a slightly harder keeper he doesn't show any of the signs that come to mind... he doesn't get even the slightest bit hot, no gate issues, or anything along those lines, and he has always been on pasture. This young lady is on a bit of a budget so treating ulcers "just to see" is pretty much out of the question. Any other thoughts on what might be causing this depression and prolonged cool out time? |
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| I would get a second opinion, no one can catch everything on every horse. Something is up with this horse, maybe ulcers, stress she can't see, or pain.  |
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| I had a gelding who behaved like that a long time ago. Sullen and not very alert. He just seemed sad. He was having little bouts of colic here and there. He also would hot very easily and take a while to cool down. Looking back on it I should have had him scoped for ulcers but my vet never suggested it so I never even thought about it. But I did get him some hemp product. It helped him. Chilled him right out, not that he was crazy or anything, but now he was happier and relaxed and did not look like he was standing in the corner worrying himself sick.
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        Location: The barn...where else? SW Missouri | My mare showed a depressed look and feel when she was diagnosed with epm. Just a thought. |
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       Location: In The Snow, AZ | THE GastroPLUS is a much cheaper option in Ulcer treatment. I have used it for several horses that may or may not have had ulcers, with varying degrees of improvement. Ive had two that were thin, dull coats, and mopey that made complete turnarounds. My main mare started getting hot and snorty. And although that is a lot of her personality, She settles down greatly after being treated. With the cost of THE, I can afford to treat my horses when I feel the need...
http://www.totalhealthenhance.com/products/!/GastroPLUS/p/59387380/... |
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| Anemia maybe or Lyme? |
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| My horse would stand and watch all the other horses run around and seemed depressed. He had EPM. |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | I bought my boy a goat. He was a happy camper. He had two mini's who traveled with him before I bought him. He and my mare don't get along. Goat was $50 and gets fat on air. He loads up in the trailer with my boy and is leash broke. He's a good sport and my gelding likes him. 
ETA: He's a dairy goat. Neutered Male. Adopted him from the shelter. Otherwise meat goats/minis/or any other breed will run about 100 lower end and 500 higher end. Just some info since your friend is on a budget.
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| Like others have said ulcers, EPM, lyme .....or what hasn't been mentioned is cushings. You didn't say how old the horse was but horses don't have to be old and long hair'd to have cushings. It will make a horse very depressed, some get very thin, pee a lot and have sweating issues (some sweat a lot and others have anhydorsis) There's lots of info about cushings on this web page. http://ecirhorse.org/index.php/2-uncategorised/15-ecir-non-profit-group |
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| I had a mare that started acting that way and I know now she had PSSM. Her symptoms got worse to where I ended up retiring her and she lived her days out in the pasture. This was before PSSM was a thing like it is now so I didn't really know what to do with her other than turn her out. |
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| Tys-ol-lady - 2017-01-12 11:21 AM
I have a young friend who has a very broke barrel horse with a few issues. She's been boarding and riding with me since early fall. One of the horses issues was that he wouldn't pick up his right lead unless he was already loping in the left lead and you asked for a flying lead change. He's been for a fair bit of chiro and massage with a very reputable person, and it made very little difference. She just got his hocks done on Friday (after a full lameness exam) and although it hasn't made any difference yet, I expect that in another week we will start seeing a difference.
My question is in regards to his attitude and cool out time. This horse ALWAYS looks sad and depressed. He is on very high quality feed and mineral, lives in a pasture with two other horses, his owner takes very good care of him and lovess on him a lot, and he is in excellent shape. When she is done riding him he will often take 2 hours to cool out and dry off, and he will just stand with his head kind of hanging and not move a muscle... she usually leaves him standing with no halter or anything and even if other horses are loose and being crazy he'll just stand there panting and looking sad. The vet figured he *might* have ulcers, but aside from being a slightly harder keeper he doesn't show any of the signs that come to mind... he doesn't get even the slightest bit hot, no gate issues, or anything along those lines, and he has always been on pasture. This young lady is on a bit of a budget so treating ulcers "just to see" is pretty much out of the question. Any other thoughts on what might be causing this depression and prolonged cool out time?
Depression is a sign of ulcers.
If she is on a tight budget.
Formula 1 Noni has a product called papaya it cost me approx. 35 dollars for a months supply. The developer said it is papaya, no additives.
There has been actual research in peer reviewed journals from the 1980's that proves papaya does cure ulcers. |
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