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Location: Texas | With a horse that is running bred mixed with cow bred, do you prefer a running bred stallion crossed on a cow mare or a cow stallion on a running mare? Or does it make a difference?? |
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| I personally prefer cow bred mares, but both ways have been successful. I am pickier about which lines cross vs if it is coming from the dam or sire. |
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| M&M3114 - 2017-01-19 11:31 PM
With a horse that is running bred mixed with cow bred, do you prefer a running bred stallion crossed on a cow mare or a cow stallion on a running mare? Or does it make a difference??
NEITHER ...
cow vs race lines have two totally different conformations ..
you can't have a Nascar by adding a Volkswagen engine ... lol
You need pedigrees with speed on top and bottom ..
which includes your famous barrel horse families as horses with speed .. |
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-01-20 6:42 AM M&M3114 - 2017-01-19 11:31 PM With a horse that is running bred mixed with cow bred, do you prefer a running bred stallion crossed on a cow mare or a cow stallion on a running mare? Or does it make a difference?? NEITHER ... cow vs race lines have two totally different conformations .. you can't have a Nascar by adding a Volkswagen engine ... lol You need pedigrees with speed on top and bottom .. which includes your famous barrel horse families as horses with speed ..
This might be close to the dumbest thing that's ever come out of your keyboard. 
Go tell Lisa Lockhart that you can't have run and cow. Or Mary Burger. 
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| Nateracer - 2017-01-20 7:33 AM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-01-20 6:42 AM M&M3114 - 2017-01-19 11:31 PM With a horse that is running bred mixed with cow bred, do you prefer a running bred stallion crossed on a cow mare or a cow stallion on a running mare? Or does it make a difference?? NEITHER ... cow vs race lines have two totally different conformations .. you can't have a Nascar by adding a Volkswagen engine ... lol You need pedigrees with speed on top and bottom .. which includes your famous barrel horse families as horses with speed ..
Amen, sister! I almost spit out my coffee when I read BARRELHORSE USA'S post. What in the holy hell, man?  |
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| Wow BarrelhorseUSA - you need a fact check and maybe check the stats
To the OP - I tend to like running bred on maternal side. When we used to do some breeding, we had a nice cutting bred stud and I always felt more comfortable breeding a small horse to a big mare vs a big stud to a small mare for birthing.
However, not sure if it makes any difference other than that. Just how it worked out for us.
Last mare I bought was also cow on top, running on bottom. |
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| Just for the record, Doc Bar was a grandson of Three Bars through Lightning Bars. (If you will google Doc Bar, he was bred to be a race horse) Back in the 1950's and 60's Quarter horses did it all. Smooth Herman who was world champion cutting horse was by Jet Smooth. Just another example of how Quarter horses were used for everything. Three Bars, who was a thoroughbred, was probably the thoroughbred who had the most influence on the Quarter horse industry. So, no the DOC BAR line is not really cowhorse.
Mary Burgers horse goes back to Doc Bar and Lightning Bar (through Laughing Boy). You have a big dose of Three Bars on his top side also. Driftwood IS a cowhorse but with so much running horse, it is kind of overridden.
In the 1960's some neighbors owned Sugar Bar Leo, a son of Sugar Bars. Their main interest was interest was racing so the daughters barrel raced.
So if you do not want to read all that, the DOC BAR line is not cowhorse breeding.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | streakysox - 2017-01-20 10:30 AM Just for the record, Doc Bar was a grandson of Three Bars through Lightning Bars. (If you will google Doc Bar, he was bred to be a race horse) Back in the 1950's and 60's Quarter horses did it all. Smooth Herman who was world champion cutting horse was by Jet Smooth. Just another example of how Quarter horses were used for everything. Three Bars, who was a thoroughbred, was probably the thoroughbred who had the most influence on the Quarter horse industry. So, no the DOC BAR line is not really cowhorse. Mary Burgers horse goes back to Doc Bar and Lightning Bar (through Laughing Boy). You have a big dose of Three Bars on his top side also. Driftwood IS a cowhorse but with so much running horse, it is kind of overridden. In the 1960's some neighbors owned Sugar Bar Leo, a son of Sugar Bars. Their main interest was interest was racing so the daughters barrel raced. So if you do not want to read all that, the DOC BAR line is not cowhorse breeding.
you sure go out of your way to defend the dumb things he says.
How come?
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| I always get a good chuckle out of BHUSA's view on this.
I have colts bred with speed on top/cow on bottom. BUT I have heard that the size of a colts heart (literally not figuratively) is passed from their maternal side? If that's the case (bad bad me, I have not fact checked that) then I would think breeding cow on top/run on bottom would be ideal. |
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Location: GODS country | I have had great success with Hancock lines crossed on Jet Deck bred mares.
I also love Paddys Irish Whiskey or Playgun crossed on run.
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| If you're looking at what horses were originally bred to do, then you have to call Driftwood a racehorse as well. It seems to me that everything goes back to running horses. Look at halter horses, Impressive was bred a lot like Doc Bar. Even Western Pleasure horses, most of them go back to Zippo Pat Bars, an own son of Three Bars out of an own daughter of Leo. |
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| 1DSoon - 2017-01-20 9:46 AM
streakysox - 2017-01-20 10:30 AM Just for the record, Doc Bar was a grandson of Three Bars through Lightning Bars. (If you will google Doc Bar, he was bred to be a race horse) Back in the 1950's and 60's Quarter horses did it all. Smooth Herman who was world champion cutting horse was by Jet Smooth. Just another example of how Quarter horses were used for everything. Three Bars, who was a thoroughbred, was probably the thoroughbred who had the most influence on the Quarter horse industry. So, no the DOC BAR line is not really cowhorse. Mary Burgers horse goes back to Doc Bar and Lightning Bar (through Laughing Boy). You have a big dose of Three Bars on his top side also. Driftwood IS a cowhorse but with so much running horse, it is kind of overridden. In the 1960's some neighbors owned Sugar Bar Leo, a son of Sugar Bars. Their main interest was interest was racing so the daughters barrel raced. So if you do not want to read all that, the DOC BAR line is not cowhorse breeding.
you sure go out of your way to defend the dumb things he says.
How come?
BHUSA was not the person who posted anything about Lisa Lockhart's horse and Mary Burger's horse. Maybe redhead? I was just clarifying that DOC BAR was running horse bred and I love to see what kind of inane remarks I can extract from the knowledgeable. |
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| tx123 - 2017-01-20 10:04 AM If you're looking at what horses were originally bred to do, then you have to call Driftwood a racehorse as well. It seems to me that everything goes back to running horses. Look at halter horses, Impressive was bred a lot like Doc Bar. Even Western Pleasure horses, most of them go back to Zippo Pat Bars, an own son of Three Bars out of an own daughter of Leo.
Pretty sure Impressive was bred to be a race horse that didn't race...But I can't quite remember. |
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Location: Wyoming | BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-01-20 6:42 AM
M&M3114 - 2017-01-19 11:31 PM
With a horse that is running bred mixed with cow bred, do you prefer a running bred stallion crossed on a cow mare or a cow stallion on a running mare? Or does it make a difference??
NEITHER ...
cow vs race lines have two totally different conformations ..
you can't have a Nascar by adding a Volkswagen engine ... lol
You need pedigrees with speed on top and bottom ..
which includes your famous barrel horse families as horses with speed ..
Tell that to Blazin Jetolena!! Dumbest thing I've ever heard! |
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Location: bring on the heat, NV | I prefer run on top with something more old school on the bottom with a little of the new cowbred lines in there. Im all about blending. Like Jackie Bee, Sir Quincy Dan, Driftwood, (id like to try sunfrost etc btu havent so cant vouch) that general big all around bred horses that had size, brains and could still rate a cow. |
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Location: Texas | It doesn't make a difference to me! I love my cow x running bred horses. |
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| ecranch - 2017-01-20 9:56 AM
I have had great success with Hancock lines crossed on Jet Deck bred mares.
I also love Paddys Irish Whiskey or Playgun crossed on run.
You may like a 2 yr old I have...daughter of Eds Little Whiskey(PIW x dtr of Doc O Dynamite) X AAA grandaughter of Sunfrost. She will be started this year! |
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| As for the conformation comment about cow vs race being so different, go look at Corona Cartel. We saw him this summer and he could waltz into the NCHA hall of fame and fit right in. |
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Location: Texas | gunner07 - 2017-01-20 12:09 AM
I personally prefer cow bred mares, but both ways have been successful. I am pickier about which lines cross vs if it is coming from the dam or sire.
Which lines and crosses do you like best?
Edited by M&M3114 2017-01-20 8:33 PM
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