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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2017-01-31 9:54 AM
Subject: Breeding decisions...


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I completely forgot I bid on a stallion auction!!!

I made the decision to breed my APHA mare this spring and after some careful thought chose the close by Perks Firewater Flit. Well turns out I'm the winning bid on Bull an APHA stallion with an impressive track record.

Proven sire vs freshman sire.

Perks Firewater Flit

http://m.runnincperformancehorses.com/site/mobile?dm_path=%2Fperksf...




This is Bull

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My mare Pepsi Bar Dancer

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Sorry doing this very quick before work. So now I have a decision to make and I need opinions!

Edited by Serenity06 2017-01-31 10:00 AM
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rodeolife
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2017-01-31 2:38 PM
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 i've been unimpressed with the pff offspring i've seen so I would go with bull 
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2017-01-31 3:40 PM
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Bull. Hands down.  

PFF has a swan like neck from high head carriage that ties in lower than Bulls. He also has a crazy steep angle on his hip that I just don't care for. He's mediocre. 
Bull has a low tie in his neck as well but it's very clean and isn't swan like. His hip is also much nicer than the Perks. I'd buy an "unproven" Studs foal over a baby with poor conformation any day.... 

ETA bull also has a shorter back and looks to be more athletically built than PFF


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brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2017-01-31 6:43 PM
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Bull appears to be a paddler. I personally am not a fan of the way he moves.  
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2017-01-31 7:13 PM
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brlracerchick - 2017-01-31 5:43 PM

Bull appears to be a paddler. I personally am not a fan of the way he moves.  

That is my biggest hang up on Bull.

Thank you all for the honest opinions!
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janjan1
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2017-02-01 9:21 AM
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Beautiful animal.
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2017-02-01 9:45 AM
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brlracerchick - 2017-01-31 6:43 PM

Bull appears to be a paddler. I personally am not a fan of the way he moves.  

Just curious where you see that? I googled and searched their website/fbook page and couldn't find any pics that showed anything?
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2017-02-01 12:26 PM
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There is a video on his owners Facebook and yes he is paddling in it. Though, it's hard to say if that's how he always travels or if it was an "I'm showing off while in a confined area" deal.
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2017-02-07 3:46 PM
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Well after all the fees that get tacked on (the stallion auction wording was a tad misleading) the total cost turns into $1175 (vet fees pending an average cost) to breed to Bull. Not entirely positive I want to spend that on a stallion I don't have any good conformation pics of and no good videos.


She may just be left open this year.
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SloRide
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2017-02-07 3:51 PM
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Bull sure is a looker. Nice and balanced. I like it!
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shakeit0410
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-02-07 4:02 PM
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Serenity06 - 2017-02-07 3:46 PM

Well after all the fees that get tacked on (the stallion auction wording was a tad misleading) the total cost turns into $1175 (vet fees pending an average cost) to breed to Bull. Not entirely positive I want to spend that on a stallion I don't have any good conformation pics of and no good videos.


She may just be left open this year.

So then you just plan to eat the cost of the bid you placed in the stallion auction?
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2017-02-07 4:47 PM
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shakeit0410 - 2017-02-07 4:02 PM
Serenity06 - 2017-02-07 3:46 PM Well after all the fees that get tacked on (the stallion auction wording was a tad misleading) the total cost turns into $1175 (vet fees pending an average cost) to breed to Bull. Not entirely positive I want to spend that on a stallion I don't have any good conformation pics of and no good videos. She may just be left open this year.
So then you just plan to eat the cost of the bid you placed in the stallion auction?
After paying for that bid I would just bite the bullet and breed her, what would you do with the payed for stud fee? Use it I would.. 

Edited by Southtxponygirl 2017-02-07 4:49 PM
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2017-02-07 10:07 PM
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The stud fee I paid is honestly the cheapest part of the whole equation. Lol. Idk I'm the type of person that over thinks EVERYTHING. If i could at least get some decent side pics it would make me feel better. I can't even find any win photos.

If i decided to not use the breeding I would ask Bull's owner if it was ok to sell it. If she said no then I'd have to respect that. I honestly have no clue at this point.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2017-02-07 10:41 PM
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Serenity06 - 2017-02-07 10:07 PM

The stud fee I paid is honestly the cheapest part of the whole equation. Lol. Idk I'm the type of person that over thinks EVERYTHING. If i could at least get some decent side pics it would make me feel better. I can't even find any win photos.

If i decided to not use the breeding I would ask Bull's owner if it was ok to sell it. If she said no then I'd have to respect that. I honestly have no clue at this point.

Maybe she could supply you some pictures?? (I'm an over-thinker too!!)
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2017-02-07 11:51 PM
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Chandler's Mom - 2017-02-07 9:41 PM

Serenity06 - 2017-02-07 10:07 PM

The stud fee I paid is honestly the cheapest part of the whole equation. Lol. Idk I'm the type of person that over thinks EVERYTHING. If i could at least get some decent side pics it would make me feel better. I can't even find any win photos.

If i decided to not use the breeding I would ask Bull's owner if it was ok to sell it. If she said no then I'd have to respect that. I honestly have no clue at this point.

Maybe she could supply you some pictures?? (I'm an over-thinker too!!)

I asked for better pictures, I was told they won't be getting any till he fully sheds out :-\
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2017-02-08 12:13 AM
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Serenity06 - 2017-02-07 11:51 PM

Chandler's Mom - 2017-02-07 9:41 PM

Serenity06 - 2017-02-07 10:07 PM

The stud fee I paid is honestly the cheapest part of the whole equation. Lol. Idk I'm the type of person that over thinks EVERYTHING. If i could at least get some decent side pics it would make me feel better. I can't even find any win photos.

If i decided to not use the breeding I would ask Bull's owner if it was ok to sell it. If she said no then I'd have to respect that. I honestly have no clue at this point.

Maybe she could supply you some pictures?? (I'm an over-thinker too!!)

I asked for better pictures, I was told they won't be getting any till he fully sheds out :-\

So I guess you're hoping for a REAL early spring?!?
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2017-02-08 12:43 AM
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Chandler's Mom - 2017-02-07 11:13 PM

Serenity06 - 2017-02-07 11:51 PM

Chandler's Mom - 2017-02-07 9:41 PM

Serenity06 - 2017-02-07 10:07 PM

The stud fee I paid is honestly the cheapest part of the whole equation. Lol. Idk I'm the type of person that over thinks EVERYTHING. If i could at least get some decent side pics it would make me feel better. I can't even find any win photos.

If i decided to not use the breeding I would ask Bull's owner if it was ok to sell it. If she said no then I'd have to respect that. I honestly have no clue at this point.

Maybe she could supply you some pictures?? (I'm an over-thinker too!!)

I asked for better pictures, I was told they won't be getting any till he fully sheds out :-\

So I guess you're hoping for a REAL early spring?!?

It's just weird that I can't find at least any win photos or race videos. I know he's ran and won! Lol
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2017-02-08 3:11 AM
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Have you found good pictures of his foals?
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2017-02-08 7:39 AM
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Chandler's Mom - 2017-02-08 2:11 AM

Have you found good pictures of his foals?

This is his first year standing at stud so he doesn't have any foals.
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-02-08 11:41 AM
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Serenity06 - 2017-02-07 11:07 PM The stud fee I paid is honestly the cheapest part of the whole equation. Lol. Idk I'm the type of person that over thinks EVERYTHING. If i could at least get some decent side pics it would make me feel better. I can't even find any win photos. If i decided to not use the breeding I would ask Bull's owner if it was ok to sell it. If she said no then I'd have to respect that. I honestly have no clue at this point.

It sucks to say, but the stud fee is usually always the cheapest part of breeding.  
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