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 Half-Eaten Cookies
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | I am curious your thoughts, since I've been racing one horse for 17 years, I've finally got another going - the fees have gone up! lol
I've only exhibitioned a few times, - the 2nd time she was 3 1/2 seconds off on a huge, deep pattern, then the last time, she would have won the 5D (2 seconds off).....but the entry fee was $35 and I only would've won $39. It is a progressive/sliding payout, which I agree with, though.
To exhbition 1 time is $5 + $5 arena fee = $10.
I can't get there early enough, so I would exhbition after the class on the stakes.
I am not lucky.
Would you just exhibition a few more races until you've moved up in the D's, or gamble the $35 + everytime? Does it matter as far as marketing goes? I'm talking weeknight races with about 30-40 runners, so the payout isn't a lot anyway.
Edited by txbredbr 2017-03-13 4:41 PM
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Extreme Veteran
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| I'm planning on exhibitioning this spring. I figured I would exhibition and if I felt like my horse was doing well I could always enter the race before it starts. If she is not doing great I just won't run her. I don't care too much about cost at this point. It's about getting experience and building confidence.
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Half-Eaten Cookies
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | SloRide - 2017-03-13 4:47 PM I'm planning on exhibitioning this spring. I figured I would exhibition and if I felt like my horse was doing well I could always enter the race before it starts. If she is not doing great I just won't run her. I don't care too much about cost at this point. It's about getting experience and building confidence.
Okay, cool......But if you had to care about the cost....like me? $10 to get experience and confidence vs. $35? 
Thanks, SloRide - I hope it goes great for you this Spring!
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | I usually do not enter until they clock top of 4 D easily. unless i am in a time crunch to get them into a finals that has minimun run requirements. then i will start to enter and cruise to get my runs in. otherwise I wait. so beginning of season I am more likely to enter if it is too late to make the finals then i wait. also i have entered to get a run if the time only ground gets trashy by the time i get to it. |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| Depends on the age of the young horse. 3-4 with a futurity plan, absolutely not. Because you won't be able to futurity them. 6-7-8, you might as well enter. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | txbredbr - 2017-03-13 3:24 PM
SloRide - 2017-03-13 4:47 PM I'm planning on exhibitioning this spring. I figured I would exhibition and if I felt like my horse was doing well I could always enter the race before it starts. If she is not doing great I just won't run her. I don't care too much about cost at this point. It's about getting experience and building confidence.
Okay, cool......But if you had to care about the cost....like me? $10 to get experience and confidence vs. $35?
Thanks, SloRide - I hope it goes great for you this Spring!
I think you answered your own question... |
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| To start just do the expo. You could do three go's at that price and you do not have to run them. I see people trotting them, doing all right or left turns, practicing moving their shoulders over or just getting a spooky horse to move. |
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Half-Eaten Cookies
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | ~BINGO~ - 2017-03-13 6:03 PM
txbredbr - 2017-03-13 3:24 PM
SloRide - 2017-03-13 4:47 PM I'm planning on exhibitioning this spring. I figured I would exhibition and if I felt like my horse was doing well I could always enter the race before it starts. If she is not doing great I just won't run her. I don't care too much about cost at this point. It's about getting experience and building confidence.
Okay, cool......But if you had to care about the cost....like me? $10 to get experience and confidence vs. $35?
Thanks, SloRide - I hope it goes great for you this Spring!
I think you answered your own question...
You know I thought that as I typed it.... But I still want to hear others opinions lol
Not all races are that format and another race series about to start is different... I just started to run 3 exhibitions and she said $20, and I thought yikes I might as well enter :)
I just started asking for speed, so I don't think she will take long.
She's 5. |
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Half-Eaten Cookies
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | SloRide - 2017-03-13 8:11 PM
To start just do the expo. You could do three go's at that price and you do not have to run them. I see people trotting them, doing all right or left turns, practicing moving their shoulders over or just getting a spooky horse to move.
Good point - I might just switch it up week to week at that particular race :) |
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Half-Eaten Cookies
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | kwanatha - 2017-03-13 5:28 PM
I usually do not enter until they clock top of 4 D easily. unless i am in a time crunch to get them into a finals that has minimun run requirements. then i will start to enter and cruise to get my runs in. otherwise I wait. so beginning of season I am more likely to enter if it is too late to make the finals then i wait. also i have entered to get a run if the time only ground gets trashy by the time i get to it.
That's a good plan.
But you know the 5d is easier to hit at smaller races because the majority are 4d and up... But I hope she would move up pretty quick. |
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I am a very competitive person. If I enter I want to win money and if they aren't really ready, I would maybe push more than they need. So I exhibition until they are ready to be pushed. Maybe let that guide you |
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| If patterned solidly;y and handling new enviroments/arenas well then just enter. Challenge horse to go a little faster each time. It's always different doing a time only vs entering. |
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 Too Skinny
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | I figure you pay for a ground difference and atmosphere change with the price increase. Exhibitions around here are 30 horses or more traveling through the same pattern till the dirt is dug up with atleast 10 horses moving around the arena and no announcer over a loud speaker.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | My two cents....With a young horse, unless I'm determined to enter futurities, if I exhibition the colt and he does well, I wouldn't turn around and enter him. I'd take the "quit while I'm ahead" approach.
To sit down and go through the trouble of figuring out whether or not he'll win $5-10 in the 4D or 5D seems unnecessary. Unless he's exceptional and a promising futurity prospect, waiting a month or two longer and exhibitioning a few times more would serve you well in the long run. |
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| If I'm trying to get a prospect ready to sell, I'm not going to enter until that horse is clocking well enough to make itself look good. If I'm going to run a 20+ on a standard, it's going to be a in a time-only where there aren't any results with my name or the horse's name. |
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Half-Eaten Cookies
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-03-13 9:02 PM I am a very competitive person. If I enter I want to win money and if they aren't really ready, I would maybe push more than they need. So I exhibition until they are ready to be pushed. Maybe let that guide you
This could be me....like if she had a bad bobble on one barrel, I might override/overpush just hoping to still catch a D. |
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Half-Eaten Cookies
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | IdahoBarrelRacer756 - 2017-03-14 12:26 PM If I'm trying to get a prospect ready to sell, I'm not going to enter until that horse is clocking well enough to make itself look good. If I'm going to run a 20+ on a standard, it's going to be a in a time-only where there aren't any results with my name or the horse's name.
I thought about this, too.. that's kind of what I meant by marketing standpoint....she's 2 secs off, right now. I've taken the backseat to a young girl riding my old faithful, and I'm also itching to run, again. But soon, I'll have him back all to myself. :) |
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Half-Eaten Cookies
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | Bear - 2017-03-14 12:10 PM My two cents....With a young horse, unless I'm determined to enter futurities, if I exhibition the colt and he does well, I wouldn't turn around and enter him. I'd take the "quit while I'm ahead" approach. To sit down and go through the trouble of figuring out whether or not he'll win $5-10 in the 4D or 5D seems unnecessary. Unless he's exceptional and a promising futurity prospect, waiting a month or two longer and exhibitioning a few times more would serve you well in the long run.
Thanks - good point. I saved her, just in case me (or someone) might want to do late futurities on her. And I do strategize and try to get the best bang for my buck, and after race exhibtions are pretty easy for me to pull off after work, making sure she gets enough warm up. |
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Half-Eaten Cookies
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | cowgalsissy - 2017-03-14 9:33 AM I figure you pay for a ground difference and atmosphere change with the price increase. Exhibitions around here are 30 horses or more traveling through the same pattern till the dirt is dug up with atleast 10 horses moving around the arena and no announcer over a loud speaker.
I hear you...but around here, there's not many at all after class and they still announce over loud speaker.
And thank you for all of your responses. I'm going to exhibition, again, tonight, and think about all your responses, again, after that. :)
Edited by txbredbr 2017-03-14 1:35 PM
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Location: North Dakota | txbredbr - 2017-03-13 4:37 PM I am curious your thoughts, since I've been racing one horse for 17 years, I've finally got another going - the fees have gone up! lol
I've only exhibitioned a few times, - the 2nd time she was 3 1/2 seconds off on a huge, deep pattern, then the last time, she would have won the 5D (2 seconds off).....but the entry fee was $35 and I only would've won $39. It is a progressive/sliding payout, which I agree with, though.
To exhbition 1 time is $5 + $5 arena fee = $10.
I can't get there early enough, so I would exhbition after the class on the stakes.
I am not lucky.
Would you just exhibition a few more races until you've moved up in the D's, or gamble the $35 + everytime? Does it matter as far as marketing goes? I'm talking weeknight races with about 30-40 runners, so the payout isn't a lot anyway.
Don't get me wrong, I'll take money if I can win it. But ultimately, I do not barrel race for the money. I barrel race to have fun.
So yes, I enter my young horses at the local barrel races because it's fun. And starts getting them some seasoning experience. I really don't even care if they hit the 4D.
But that's just me. ..
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