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love2ridepre
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2017-03-30 10:19 AM
Subject: this is not normal, right?


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I went to an open ride yesterday and I saw some people running their horses over and over and over... there was a girl that run her horse open wide more than 5 times! It saddened me a little to be honest but... none of my business I know
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Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2017-03-30 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?



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Lol, were we at the same race? I saw the same thing on Sunday. They were the only ones in the practice arena so they kept running over and over and then were mad that the horse was all amped up.
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2017-03-30 10:54 AM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?



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Don't worry. Their horse will not have any run left for the barrel race when it counts.
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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2017-03-30 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?



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Depending on the age of the girl, find her parents.  See what their philosophy is, or see if THEY know any better.  Sometimes parents get convinced to buy the kid a pony that morphs into a barrel horse after a year or two.  They hear Practice, Practice, Practice and don't really get told that it doesn't mean to run your horse over and over.   So sometimes a gentle nudge in the right direction doesn't hurt.
Now if they are the ones who ran over and over right before the kid did, well, don't waste your breath.  
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Fun2Run
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2017-03-30 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?



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Nateracer - 2017-03-30 11:09 AM Depending on the age of the girl, find her parents.  See what their philosophy is, or see if THEY know any better.  Sometimes parents get convinced to buy the kid a pony that morphs into a barrel horse after a year or two.  They hear Practice, Practice, Practice and don't really get told that it doesn't mean to run your horse over and over.   So sometimes a gentle nudge in the right direction doesn't hurt.

Now if they are the ones who ran over and over right before the kid did, well, don't waste your breath.  

 In my experience, they don't want to hear it. 

I have a real problem going to open rides for this reason.  I'm old, and I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut.

 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-03-30 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?



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Yep, see it all the time. There was a gal here that almost made the NFR. SHe had a horse that she would run over and over and over in a time only. I loved when she did it cause in the jackpot it was probably the 5th run that day and she was way slower than the first couple times. But I see no obligation in finding parents etc, they paid for the time only they can do what they darn well please.
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stjelde
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2017-03-30 11:18 AM
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There is a "trainer" here that will run her horses over and over and over before the barrel race even starts or she will make the poor horse circle one barrel so many times that by the time the horse gets done it is dripping with sweat and then....... she runs them at the actual race!!!! This girl is a complete idiot and so cruel to animals! She also wrenches on their mouthes and saws back and forth. Point being..... there are idiots everywhere around us, I don't know the answer because that "type" you can't tell anything too!!
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BS Hauler
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2017-03-30 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?


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You mean that is not how you train a barrel horse. LOL 
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livexlovexrodeo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2017-03-30 11:34 AM
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I used to go to Open ride at the arena by me. Nice big arena, and I'm usually stuck in a really tiny indoor so this was when I would set up barrels to do some slow work. There was this girl that would show up and she would bring two horses. Get on one horse, pony the other. She would get on and immediately set off trotting. She's would trot half a lap and then start loping. She would lope the horses about 10 minutes and then the rest of the night she would switch between horses, running them full speed through the pattern every time, hitting barrels almost every single time.

It was an absolute train wreck. My friend and i used to just sit in the corner and watch. typically once she showed up we knew our ride was over.
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shakeit0410
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-03-30 11:38 AM
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Unfortunately this is way more common than it should be...
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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2017-03-30 12:06 PM
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See it all the time..and not just kids...m
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Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2017-03-30 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?



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The one I saw was a kid on the horse and the mother screaming at her to kick her and pull her up in the turns. It is the moms main horse so I'm not sure what she was trying to get the daughter to achieve. But it was interesting to watch...
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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2017-03-30 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?



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Fun2Run - 2017-03-30 11:17 AM
Nateracer - 2017-03-30 11:09 AM Depending on the age of the girl, find her parents.  See what their philosophy is, or see if THEY know any better.  Sometimes parents get convinced to buy the kid a pony that morphs into a barrel horse after a year or two.  They hear Practice, Practice, Practice and don't really get told that it doesn't mean to run your horse over and over.   So sometimes a gentle nudge in the right direction doesn't hurt.

Now if they are the ones who ran over and over right before the kid did, well, don't waste your breath.  
 In my experience, they don't want to hear it. 



I have a real problem going to open rides for this reason.  I'm old, and I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut.


 

I agree that most don't want to hear it.  But there are a few who don't honestly know. Not common, but not unheard of either.  
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2017-03-30 7:22 PM
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 Those are the idiots I just want to jerk off their horses and smack upside the head. Unfortunately they ruin horse after horse and the horse pays the price. The upside is because they ruin all their horses they just add to the added money. No horse can take that for long. Neither physically or mentally.
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BarrelRacing4Christ
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2017-03-30 9:42 PM
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Seems to be pretty common, but it isn't right.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-03-31 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?



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 No, it is not right but  as others have said people don't want to listen.   I witnessed a teenage girl run her horse about four times, the horse was short step stepping/hopping on the back right so bad as soon as she stopped  he limped out of the arena.   I did politely say something to the mother as they were passing by me -that he is hurting pretty bad and probably should not be running.    She replied they were aware of that but he needs to learn he has to do what they ask no matter what.    I stayed polite but did respond that running  her horse will teach them something,  that they hate barrels and what they see as bad behavior is pain not attitude. 
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2017-03-31 10:39 AM
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I'll never forget one mom, horse, and kid combo. They all looked miserable. I was helping my sister warm up at her first bigger race and this mom was just yelling non stop at her daughter to kick and pull and be harder on her horse. Then she got on and ran that horse into rollback after rollback after rollback after rollback after rollback. She was SO rough on that poor horse and the girl.

When the girl ran later I don't remember what happened exactly but I'm pretty sure she hit the first barrel and the horse ran back to the gate. She had no control and looked terrified (probably more of her mom than of the horse). I saw her mom yelling at her afterward and them working the horse more. Great way to ruin a horse and a kid. 
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Woodys Mama
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2017-03-31 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?


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When I was a kid, I did that exact same thing. I didnt know any better and it was fun to me!
I have always wanted to learn more, and over time I have self educated, attended clinics and just by golly learned from the school of hard knocks.

Would I have listened? it probably depends on who was giving the advice.

I attended a team roping jackpot last weekend and the lack of horsemanship and tack placement?adjustment just about made me scream!
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tin can
Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2017-04-02 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: this is not normal, right?


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My best advice don't look,seriously if they don't ask leave them alone it's a waste of your breathe and mental energy stay focused on your horse and being your best.People do some really funny things and looking back I did my share lol. we all start somewhere and not everyone shares the same enthusiasm or skill.
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tin can
Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2017-04-02 8:22 AM
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My best advice don't look,seriously if they don't ask leave them alone it's a waste of your breathe and mental energy stay focused on your horse and being your best.People do some really funny things and looking back I did my share lol. we all start somewhere and not everyone shares the same enthusiasm or skill.
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