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| I have a 5 yr old mare I'm currently running barrels on, that in the last year has been wringing/ swishing her tail horribly. I have had her since she was 8 months old. I have had her adjusted, hormone shots, teeth floated and recently had a great farrier fix her feet as there weren't being done properly. She only does this under saddle, not during groundwork. I had read about getting her sutured and wolf teeth being removed. Has anyone done this and seen results for these issues? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. |
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Location: NE TX | My mare used to be the poster child for what you are describing. I had my vet do a caslicks (sew her up), I also treated for ulcers.
If she hasn't had wolf teeth removed them make sure you do that as well, that can be pretty painful against the bit. Also have your vet just double check that there are no pain issues anywhere to eliminate those issues.
To do all of this I would recommend (if you don't already use one) a good performance horse vet, not just your every day sees horses on the side or just general horse vet.
For my mare it was multiple things: hocks were hurting, ulcers, sucking air, bleeding, and she had some lingering CL tissue keeping her in heat. She still swishes her tail sometimes now...but EVERYONE in the last few months that knows my mare has said WOW she is a happier horse and not much tail swishing. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I have to be careful about peeing under saddle myself. That sometimes happens to me when my prostate is acting up. Not only do I pee under saddle, but sometimes I pee on top of it too, and that's worse. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Of course you have to address teeth and have wolf teeth pulled. Teeth issues are very painfull. I would also check saddle fit. |
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Location: Idahome | There can be so many things that will cause this. I would have her wolf teeth pulled, but I would also cleanse her kidneys. The bars of our saddle sit on top of their kidneys and can be painful if they are congested with toxins. I like the Kidney Support from Silver Lining. |
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Location: Arkansas | Bear - 2017-04-06 12:30 AM
I have to be careful about peeing under saddle myself. That sometimes happens to me when my prostate is acting up. Not only do I pee under saddle, but sometimes I pee on top of it too, and that's worse.
I needed a giggle today--thanks Bear |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Pull the shoes,leave barefoot. Check saddle for nails backing out and sharp objects. Check blankets/ pads, and back for same. Dont bute. See what happens. |
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| I would say it's a pain issue. Go to a good lameness vet. |
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Location: Deep South | Whoever floated her teeth should have automatically pulled her wolf teeth. Those are very painful for them to leave in. I'd find an equine dentist, and if you used one last time, I'd find a different one.
This may not fix the tail swishing, but it will for sure make her mouth feel better. Good luck! |
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Location: Florida.. | might be ovaries.. if a mare is in season to it happens.. |
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| Since I live in an area that doesn't have any "performance horse" vets I was wondering how long you leave the casslick in? We are currently treating her for ulcers but haven't seen much difference.... |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | TMasse - 2017-04-14 3:41 PM Since I live in an area that doesn't have any "performance horse" vets I was wondering how long you leave the casslick in? We are currently treating her for ulcers but haven't seen much difference....
Caslicks are permanent...or until you want to breed her. Pull wolf teeth and have ovaries checked. Sounds sore to me. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | I got my mare as a 4 year old. I retried her in January. From the first run to the last she always wrung her tail. I've vetted and done all the chiro and other work to her but come down to that's just her and what she does. She will also fake being cripple. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I am riding one of these too. Mentioned to me was whorls, stifles, ovaries, and kidneys to be checked. Caslick may be an option too.
My question, best vet in near OKC for this issue that won't break the bank. |
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| Have you had her scoped for Ulcers? |
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| Currently I am treating her for ulcers. We did not scope her. She doesn't have Wolfe teeth so we are good there. The shoer I have now is working on her feet as they were unbalanced and too much toe from the previous shoer. I ran her last weekend and had our best 2 runs ever. She is very giving and has lots of try. The vet gave me stretches to do with her as well to see if that helps things. I'm trying to see if the vet will do the casslick and I am also looking at mare supplements. I'm fine if that's just what she does but I have had her since ahe was 8 months old and this just started about 1 1/2 yrs ago. It's started as a little swishing here and there and continually got worse..... |
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| Well just to give you all an update.... she has had a full workup. Neither of the vets I have taken her to have found anything wrong with her. I have been told she is just a "****y" mare (literally)
I was told the casslick will cause pooling urine and make a bigger issue than her peeing all together. I was also told to Ace her which I'm not in agreement with. I have had people mention tail blocking; which I know is unethical and frowned upon as well as dangerous. At this point I am going to just say screw it. Unless anyone has any other suggestions (which would be greatly appreciated!!) |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | TMasse - 2017-05-10 1:34 PM Well just to give you all an update.... she has had a full workup. Neither of the vets I have taken her to have found anything wrong with her. I have been told she is just a "****y" mare (literally) I was told the casslick will cause pooling urine and make a bigger issue than her peeing all together. I was also told to Ace her which I'm not in agreement with. I have had people mention tail blocking; which I know is unethical and frowned upon as well as dangerous. At this point I am going to just say screw it. Unless anyone has any other suggestions (which would be greatly appreciated!!)
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this. If this was the case ALL the mares on the racetrack would not be sutured. Not suturing can cause them to suck in air and cause extreme pain. |
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Location: IN MY OWN LITTLE WORLD AT LEAST THEY KNOW ME HERE | Have u checked her for epm?
This will cause sore back n tail wringing.
Check her from Withers to tail on each side of spine.
If she's cinchy with front girth.
Slowing down times on pattern.
The above mentioned happened to my mare last yr.
yep
Teeth, wormed regular, treated for ulcers, monthly shots to stop her heat cycle, changed saddles and pads.'
Yep Chiro'd periodically. Shod regular schedule.
Started looking like sale barn trash last winter n weight loss.
Blah blah blah
Took her to a race vet and he palpated her back and she was ouchy and ask if I'd been running her hard?
No been off a week.
Hmmm would you mind if we tested for epm?
Sure
She tested positive and put her thru 2 cycles of treatment.
Ughhhh
The money I spent trying to find the problem for her.
She back to running hard and no sore back or tail wringing.
;0)
lol it's been like an Easter egg hunt in a swamp ;0}
Edited by Yakima 2017-05-11 11:14 PM
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