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| Had my mare checked for breeding soundness today. Vet saw fluid right off the bat. Decided to get a sample. Couldn't. There is a membrane holding this fluid to the right side of her uterus. They are going to try to remove it in a few days when she is in full heat but research until then. I have 2 vets at my clinic that are some of the top repro vets (in the country) and they have never seen anything like it.
Has anyone ever heard of or dealt with this????
4/21: So here's what we have: He was able to tear a decent hole in the membrane and lavage her. He was not able to remove the membrane as a whole. He will lavage and give her oxytocin and I will short cycle her in about a week. Then we will recheck a day or so after that. If she is not retaining fluid, we will attempt to breed. He says her uterus looks and feels good and healthy. Seems normal otherwise.
When he spoke with Dr. Hague about her stifle, Dr. Hague mentioned seeing 1 other mare with this 15 years ago and they were able to laser the membrane out entirely. So that is an option if the membrane scars and heals back closed. Hopefully it contracts and scars to the wall.
Crossing our fingers. This horse is..... one of a different kind lol.
I will update when we check her in a week or so.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | RoaniePonie11 - 2017-04-18 11:24 PM Had my mare checked for breeding soundness today. Vet saw fluid right off the bat. Decided to get a sample. Couldn't. There is a membrane holding this fluid to the right side of her uterus. They are going to try to remove it in a few days when she is in full heat but research until then. I have 2 vets at my clinic that are some of the top repro vets (in the country) and they have never seen anything like it. Has anyone ever heard of or dealt with this????
Never heard of this before.
Did the Vet give any idea as to what would happen if you bred her wihtout removing the fluid? What would the fluid cause exactly?  |
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Location: Muskogee, OK | I was going to recommend that you take her to a strictly reproduction vet.. However I then realized who posted this and know where you work which made me immediately change my suggestion. That's crazy that she has them stumped too! Keep us posted on how it turns out. I wonder if it could be some sort of weird false pregnancy? |
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| IRunOnFaith - 2017-04-19 8:27 AM
RoaniePonie11 - 2017-04-18 11:24 PM Had my mare checked for breeding soundness today. Vet saw fluid right off the bat. Decided to get a sample. Couldn't. There is a membrane holding this fluid to the right side of her uterus. They are going to try to remove it in a few days when she is in full heat but research until then. I have 2 vets at my clinic that are some of the top repro vets (in the country) and they have never seen anything like it. Has anyone ever heard of or dealt with this????
Never heard of this before.
Did the Vet give any idea as to what would happen if you bred her wihtout removing the fluid? What would the fluid cause exactly?
No, we didn't really talk about that as an option. I didn't even think to ask it. The way he talked it wasn't an option. I'll text him today and ask. |
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| 3canstorun - 2017-04-19 8:41 AM
Where are these vets located? And if you don't want to say just pm me.
I don't have a problem saying. These Vets are known for getting rocks prego lol. I work at Oklahoma City Equine. 2 of the 3 owners are specifically repro. The clinic itself owns several hundred recip mares. They breed over a thousand mares per spring. I have faith that if she is able to get in foal, they are the ones to get the job done. I was just surprised with all the craziness they have seen over the years that mine would be something new 0.o |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | RoaniePonie11 - 2017-04-19 9:19 AM IRunOnFaith - 2017-04-19 8:27 AM RoaniePonie11 - 2017-04-18 11:24 PM Had my mare checked for breeding soundness today. Vet saw fluid right off the bat. Decided to get a sample. Couldn't. There is a membrane holding this fluid to the right side of her uterus. They are going to try to remove it in a few days when she is in full heat but research until then. I have 2 vets at my clinic that are some of the top repro vets (in the country) and they have never seen anything like it. Has anyone ever heard of or dealt with this???? Never heard of this before.
Did the Vet give any idea as to what would happen if you bred her wihtout removing the fluid? What would the fluid cause exactly? No, we didn't really talk about that as an option. I didn't even think to ask it. The way he talked it wasn't an option. I'll text him today and ask.
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| barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 8:48 AM
I was going to recommend that you take her to a strictly reproduction vet.. However I then realized who posted this and know where you work which made me immediately change my suggestion. That's crazy that she has them stumped too! Keep us posted on how it turns out. I wonder if it could be some sort of weird false pregnancy?
Thank you. Yeah, I have a lot of faith in these guys. I had taken her years ago to be checked and she had "fluid in her uterus" according to an associate vet and we gave her OXY and I took her home and something major happened in my life so I didn't pursue breeding that year so we didn't find the membrane covering the fluid so I guess it's been there for a long time. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | RoaniePonie11 - 2017-04-19 7:25 AM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 8:48 AM
I was going to recommend that you take her to a strictly reproduction vet.. However I then realized who posted this and know where you work which made me immediately change my suggestion. That's crazy that she has them stumped too! Keep us posted on how it turns out. I wonder if it could be some sort of weird false pregnancy?
Thank you. Yeah, I have a lot of faith in these guys. I had taken her years ago to be checked and she had "fluid in her uterus" according to an associate vet and we gave her OXY and I took her home and something major happened in my life so I didn't pursue breeding that year so we didn't find the membrane covering the fluid so I guess it's been there for a long time.
Wow. Be sure to update us when they figure it out. The first thing that popped into my head was a marble that maybe caused the accumulation of fluid and walled itself off. But I'm not an expert. They will figure it out I'm sure.  |
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| I don't have a massive update, just that she was checked again tonight still with a 40 follicle and fluid looked the same. He wants to wait until she is full heat to go poking around in there. |
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| RoaniePonie11 - 2017-04-19 10:22 AM
3canstorun - 2017-04-19 8:41 AM
Where are these vets located? And if you don't want to say just pm me.
I don't have a problem saying. These Vets are known for getting rocks prego lol. I work at Oklahoma City Equine. 2 of the 3 owners are specifically repro. The clinic itself owns several hundred recip mares. They breed over a thousand mares per spring. I have faith that if she is able to get in foal, they are the ones to get the job done. I was just surprised with all the craziness they have seen over the years that mine would be something new 0.o
Its always the ppl that take the best care of their critters that have the weirdest problems with them! God works it out that way to get them taken care of IMO |
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| RoaniePonie11 - 2017-04-18 11:24 PM
Had my mare checked for breeding soundness today. Vet saw fluid right off the bat. Decided to get a sample. Couldn't. There is a membrane holding this fluid to the right side of her uterus. They are going to try to remove it in a few days when she is in full heat but research until then. I have 2 vets at my clinic that are some of the top repro vets (in the country) and they have never seen anything like it.
Has anyone ever heard of or dealt with this????
4/21: So here's what we have: He was able to tear a decent hole in the membrane and lavage her. He was not able to remove the membrane as a whole. He will lavage and give her oxytocin and I will short cycle her in about a week. Then we will recheck a day or so after that. If she is not retaining fluid, we will attempt to breed. He says her uterus looks and feels good and healthy. Seems normal otherwise.
When he spoke with Dr. Hague about her stifle, Dr. Hague mentioned seeing 1 other mare with this 15 years ago and they were able to laser the membrane out entirely. So that is an option if the membrane scars and heals back closed. Hopefully it contracts and scars to the wall.
Crossing our fingers. This horse is..... one of a different kind lol.
I will update when we check her in a week or so.
You can have a foal with a leg or butt in the wrong position and stretch the
uterus while mare is carrying the foal. Foal rights itself when moving into the
foaling position.....After foaling fluid accumulates and
uterus tries to repair itself by growing a membrane.
Same affects if uterus gets ripped at birth and heals incorrectly or mares vulva
needs to be stitched due to deformity and urine accumulates and creates a pouch.
The older the mare the more common this is ... due to elongation of the long
muscle that holds the baby up in the flank region ... if that muscle gets over
loaded before birthing .. you can lose both mare and foal. We have all seen
mares or pictures where the baby is hanging in a hammock in this region ... lol
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