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Training the PUSH STYLE!!!

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abrad12
Reg. Jul 2015
Posted 2017-04-21 11:01 AM
Subject: Training the PUSH STYLE!!!


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My mare is the definition of ratey. Her turns are flawless and she's a saint. I've entered her 7 times now, and shes grown from 5D to the 3D/4D butt crack. I noticed in my video from this week that she's not stretching out, like at all. Her pattern is great! But she's hoppy/short-striding instead of running. Background: She breezes on the track great, on a 14-6 pellet with redcell a joint supp and grass hay, adding a bigger spur makes her more humpy than flat, I took her in this morning to get scoped and a lameness exam (100% sound and sassy). My vet literally said "your mares just lazy" haha. Other than whipping between runs, do you guys recommend any other supplements that can get her wanting to push harder? My vet recommended a Windrol shot, but I'm not sure I want a studly mare :) I know she's still gaining confidence but man if this mare would just try she'd be killing it!
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cowgalsissy
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2017-04-21 11:04 AM
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I would try no spurs, no kicking just squeezing or a bumping with my calves instead of a real kick. 
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abrad12
Reg. Jul 2015
Posted 2017-04-21 11:06 AM
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With no spurs, I absolutely have to kick to get her past her barrel or else she turns too soon, between barrels she'll just lope! Currently bumping with my heels and smootching!
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jewishprincess
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2017-04-21 12:27 PM
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How does she run at home? Any better/faster?
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2017-04-21 1:04 PM
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She's moved up 2 divisions in 7 runs? I'd just give her more time. I know people think running is "natural" for a horse, but I disagree with that to an extent. I truly believe a horse learns how to run. I would keep doing exactly what you're doing and let her come into without cramming on her. Like you said, she's still gaining confidence at this stage.
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WinningPaints
Reg. Dec 2016
Posted 2017-04-21 1:10 PM
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jewishprincess - 2017-04-21 12:27 PM

How does she run at home? Any better/faster?

I try not to run at home considering any tuning I do at this point is slow working drills. If I DO run her she's lazier at home, usually have to over under her to keep herself up and using herself properly.
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WinningPaints
Reg. Dec 2016
Posted 2017-04-21 1:11 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2017-04-21 1:04 PM

She's moved up 2 divisions in 7 runs? I'd just give her more time. I know people think running is "natural" for a horse, but I disagree with that to an extent. I truly believe a horse learns how to run. I would keep doing exactly what you're doing and let her come into without cramming on her. Like you said, she's still gaining confidence at this stage.

AWESOME! Thank you! I'll keep riding and hopefully she'll keep progressing.
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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2017-04-21 1:54 PM
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WinningPaints - 2017-04-21 1:11 PM

BamaCanChaser - 2017-04-21 1:04 PM

She's moved up 2 divisions in 7 runs? I'd just give her more time. I know people think running is "natural" for a horse, but I disagree with that to an extent. I truly believe a horse learns how to run. I would keep doing exactly what you're doing and let her come into without cramming on her. Like you said, she's still gaining confidence at this stage.

AWESOME! Thank you! I'll keep riding and hopefully she'll keep progressing.

Agreed.

I also have a really ratey one and recently shortened my stirrups. At first I felt like a race jockey (and needed to do LOTS of hamstring stretching). That's allowed me to keep my seat down and back and really PUSH instead of flop.

IMO the super push style ones are anticpating, and sometimes more kicking, whipping, flailing just creates concern on their part and makes the anticipation worse. Figuring out how to ride quiet but strong and drive to a point past the barrel - a point that gets practices a LOT at home so that is where she runs too as well.

And yes, 2 divisions is 7 runs is awesome! She may sit there for a while and gain confidence, it's worth the wait.

Edited by OhMax 2017-04-21 1:55 PM
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flyingcolors
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2017-04-21 4:20 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2017-04-21 1:04 PM She's moved up 2 divisions in 7 runs? I'd just give her more time. I know people think running is "natural" for a horse, but I disagree with that to an extent. I truly believe a horse learns how to run. I would keep doing exactly what you're doing and let her come into without cramming on her. Like you said, she's still gaining confidence at this stage.

Give her a little time, she'll get it. It sounds like she is on her way. There are some that will naturally run but not most.  (To a degree.
I raised one that was a winning westren pleasure furturity 2 yr old.  Started barrel training the next year.  He was the push style and turned out to be one of the top youth horses with in a few years. He learned and most thought there was no way.
I like them like this.

 
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