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Experiences with off the track QH's

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SloRide
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2017-04-26 9:44 PM
Subject: Experiences with off the track QH's


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I have not had an ex race horse since I was a teenager but I seen a couple that I like recently and I am just weighing the pros and cons of buying an off the track QH.

Just wanted to get some input from those with more recent experience than I have. Did the horses you got work out? What are some things I should look out for?
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2017-04-26 9:56 PM
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Two things to remember....... make sure you get the horse vet checked by someone who is aware of track injuries and arace track broke horse is not really broke therefore you are basically are going to treat the horse as never been ridden.
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SloRide
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2017-04-26 11:29 PM
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streakysox - 2017-04-26 9:56 PM

Two things to remember....... make sure you get the horse vet checked by someone who is aware of track injuries and arace track broke horse is not really broke therefore you are basically are going to treat the horse as never been ridden.

The one I rode today has had some time put on him. He does stop so there is that lol. He did not feel super springy under saddle, but his ground manners need some serious work. He danced all over on the hot walker and in hand, but he is boxed up all day. Been off the track 7 months.

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iloveequine40
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2017-04-27 6:07 AM
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I currently run 3. They all have different personality/talent. I just started them completely over. 2 of them are free runner and 1 is more a bit more ratey.
Based on what you just said about ground manners/hot walker issues I'd turn that sucker out and just let him be a horse for awhile. Then I'd spend a lot of time just riding him, wet saddle blankets not in the arena necessarily either.
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tothebrim
Reg. Nov 2016
Posted 2017-04-27 6:35 AM
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Everyone has different takes on OTT horses of any kind. I have only had one personal horse come through my barn that has NOT been an OTT horse in the last 3 years. I prefer them to anything else. As far as their level of being broke, every single horse is different. It all goes back to how much work was done with them as babies, and while being before they were on track. Ive gotten a few horses that were broke under western saddle and moved off leg,broke at the poll, did everything i asked and only needed a month riding before starting on barrels to put finishing touches on... and ive gotten horses who have never had a western saddle sat on their back.

There are also plenty of other things to look for. I do not vet check any horse I purchase. I KNOW, i'm as crazy as the OTT horses myself. I have enough experience with them that I know what to look for and works for me. Look at the number of starts the horse had etc to get an idea on their mind. As a rule for ME.. if a mare ran more than two seasons, they dont work for me. Where geldings could have been raced 5+ years and can still come back and have sound minds. A lot goes into who trained them etc..
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total performance
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2017-04-27 7:15 AM
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Depends on how they were broke to start with and ground manners that were put on them.  Be selective also as to the trainer that had the horse.  Vet check always.  
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firewaterfuelsme
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2017-04-27 9:46 AM
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Look the horse up on equibase. There is a goldmine of information there. The less outs the horse has the easier to transition to arena from track. More than 10 is very challenging to transition.
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SloRide
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2017-04-27 11:31 AM
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I have a pedigree of one I can PM if anyone is interested in taking a look? And possibly a photo if I can figure out how to get it in a PM.

The horse I rode broke at the poll nicely and got on the bit well. He was broke in a western saddle. He responds a little bit to leg pressure but definitely needs more work. My mare was the opposite, too responsive to leg pressure and was always too easy to over correct. Drove me crazy.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2017-04-27 11:41 AM
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Nothing wrong with horses off the track if you know what your doing and do your homework on the horse that your looking at. I rather have something off the track myself. They are broke under western saddle and handled everyday.. 
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livexlovexrodeo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2017-04-27 12:09 PM
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My mare had 7 starts on the track. I'm not the one that bought her off the track, my friend is. But she had actually already been restarted and patterned on barrels by the people that bred/raced her. Her last race was as a 4 year old and she was sold to my friend when she was 7.

There haven't been any problems. She's 17 now and still sound. Very soft in the face and sides, she doesn't act like an ex racehorses. She ties well, is good at arena work and a decent trail horse (not my first pick but she tries lol). She's free into her first but ratey at her 2nd and 3rd.

I would just do my research on the horses. Like someone else mentioned equibase is your friend. It will tell you if the horse was pulled up or anything like that. You might even be able to watch replays. I think the quality of care they got on the track is more important than the riding aspect. You can retrain them, but it's really hard to deal with the all physical problems they could have.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2017-04-27 2:11 PM
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SloRide I like the way this horse is bred that your looking at, If I were in the market of getting another one I would be looking really hard at this one, as long as it's sound got clean legs and the price is right I would take a chance on it. 
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sam.kappen
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2017-04-27 2:13 PM
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We have had several... They all get a little bit of time before we start to riding them but they just all go back throught the basics and are rode like any other horse we have.. After they have a good handle and I have them started on the pattern they go to my husband and he will use them to doctor heifers and calves and we start team roping on them.  We try to get most of our horses more then one job so they have options when they go to new homes.
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2017-04-27 3:51 PM
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It's far easier than starting a young one from scratch.  Be ready for a years worth of abscesses and brain spasms.  They both improve with time.  
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2017-04-27 4:43 PM
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 Can you post the pedigree? If he's sound and you like him then pedigree is what would decide for me. Some families just make life a whole lot easier or more difficult.
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Gator Bug
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2017-04-27 7:09 PM
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Personally, I like OTT QHs. They have already seen A LOT. I prefer higher SIs. But I do like them. :)
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rodeowithjoker
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2017-04-27 7:54 PM
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I have 2 that ran on the track. Cliff had 8 starts and Streak ran 10 times. Neither of them have any major soundness problems from being on the track, and in fact, so far (ages 13 and 15), the only regular maintenance I do on them is inject Cliff's hocks 1-2 times a year.
My favorite thing about them is that they LOVE people. They naturally want to be around people and DO STUFF. They do get bored easily and spanking them doesn't tend to get results. Neither of them was particularly hard to season as far as being on the road and riding at different places since they'd both been hauled before. 
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iloveequine40
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2017-04-27 8:34 PM
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SloRide - 2017-04-27 11:31 AM

I have a pedigree of one I can PM if anyone is interested in taking a look? And possibly a photo if I can figure out how to get it in a PM.

The horse I rode broke at the poll nicely and got on the bit well. He was broke in a western saddle. He responds a little bit to leg pressure but definitely needs more work. My mare was the opposite, too responsive to leg pressure and was always too easy to over correct. Drove me crazy.

Send it to me. I manage a racehorse farm and know enough to be dangerous ;)
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SloRide
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2017-04-27 9:00 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2017-04-27 4:43 PM

Β Can you post the pedigree? If he's sound and you like him then pedigree is what would decide for me. Some families just make life a whole lot easier or more difficult.

Sent you the pedigree. Sorry for some reason I sent two pm's
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BabyJ
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2017-04-28 11:26 AM
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I have had a few, all were very easy to work with, great work ethic. They were used to being handled by a variety of people, travel well, eat and drink on the road well. I would do another one any day of the week, after a good vet check.

You get a lot of horse for the money. They may not know a lot depending on who does the start. but they have a great work ethic and are willing partners.

If they have only a couple of outs ask why. Typically, if a horse is a jerk to work with no one will work them so they go home. Ether that or they just don't like to run. Ask why. If a horse has a lot of outs take a look at how often. 16 outs over three years is not too much. 16 outs over a few months might be too much. See if it looks like they had time to recover between races.
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Katielovestbs
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2017-04-28 12:18 PM
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LOVE love love off track horses! If you are an experienced and confident rider, they will be great horses <3 As said above, be ready for lots of wet towels, and brain spasms though. Be ready for lots and LOTS of slow work. Remember, these horses more than already know how to run. They need to learn how to settle down, pace, rate and turn. Lots of slow and easy work. But, they have seen a lot for sure! Just make sure you do some research on the trainer, and see the horse in person, also have a good vet for vet check. Good luck =]
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