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Location: Eatonville, wa | Long story short . Gelding is coughing...a lot. And wheezing. He does this every single spring/summer. The wheezing is new. I have had him scoped for bleeding , negative. Vet said it is allergies. Last year We put him on clenbuterol. It helped a little. This year we have tried a combo of Hydroxy zine and cough syrup (I don't remember the name) it isn't doing jack diddly. I can't even ride him past a light trot without coughing :/ calling the vet again but anyone find anything that has worked for allergies /asthma? I'm considering a nebulizer. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | newlifecowgirl - 2017-04-27 10:50 AM Long story short . Gelding is coughing...a lot. And wheezing. He does this every single spring/summer. The wheezing is new. I have had him scoped for bleeding , negative. Vet said it is allergies. Last year We put him on clenbuterol. It helped a little. This year we have tried a combo of Hydroxy zine and cough syrup (I don't remember the name) it isn't doing jack diddly. I can't even ride him past a light trot without coughing :/ calling the vet again but anyone find anything that has worked for allergies /asthma? I'm considering a nebulizer.
Your on the right track with the nebulizer.
I quit riding with my friends and have noticed an improvement. No dusty environments what so ever! Rinse his hay at all times or make a hay steamer.
I use saline every other day in my neb and essential oils as well if needed.
For competition you can get your vet to give you different meds to help with bronchoconstriction. |
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Location: North Dakota | A lot of people on this forum have had great luck with herbs. Specifically Cur-OST Total support in combo with Immune and Repair or Revive.
If you do a search for alleriges/cur-ost/copd/iad lots will come up.
Send Dr. Schell from nouvelleresearch.com or post on his forum secondvet.com to discuss herbal options to help.
There are a ton of herbal options out there to help allergies, you just have to find what works best for you horse. Resp issues are nothing to mess around with because they do progressively get worse if not treated. My mare has full blown heaves/copd and when managed correctly with herbs she is just like any other horse. There is hope! 
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| Wind aid from Hawthorne Products does WONDERS for horses with allergies/COPD etc. They are very helpful and can answer any questions you have!! |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Soak or steam his hay or eliminate it all together and put him on cubes/pellets. It's the only thing that helps my horse with moderate IAD. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Have you tried Forco and biohesper C /K. Has the horse always have this problem ? Re Coop is awesome for strengthening the lungs. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Try Forco,,biohesper C/K and Re Coop. Bad bugs in the gut often cause colds disrupt digestion and can cause allergies. Biohesper C/ K ups immune system feeds muscle. Re Coop strengthens capillaries, lung/muscle.
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Location: Eatonville, wa | Thank you for the supplement and herbal suggestions. I will definitely look into them. I am a little leary of adding more supplements to his diet , only because he is pssm type 1. He's on a very specific diet/supplement regiment to keep the pssm under control, and the thought of having to add another herbal/supplement to his already expensive routine makes me grit my teeth. I have tried a few different supplement companies lung formulas, with zero improvement. I will look into them, if they have a money back guarantee I will give it a try.
So far I have been recommended Cur-ost and forco.
Besides supplements, any recommendations for me to keep in mind? I am going to talk to my boarding place about wetting down his hay. |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | I would highly consider looking into the nebulizer...it helps a lot of horses (and people!) and it might help enough that you won't even need to consider supplements. Also, take a look at your bedding if he's in a stall. I have one filly that I changed from sawdust to fine shavings and noticed a difference so I changed her to an even bigger shaving and it has helped. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Contact Dr. Schell at www.secondvet.com or nouvelle research. Herbie on here had one that was to the point that all vets couldn't help him. She reached out to Dr. Schell and she has a new horse. I highly recommend the CurOst supplements also. |
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Location: NE Texas | Absolutely 100% Cur-OST! I had tried it all, supplements, medications, nebulized, steroids, etc. Had over $5000 with 3 different vets in 2 states. My horse couldn't take a deep enough breath to cough even when on 10cc of Ventipulmin and Dex. I was at the point of putting him down based on the recommendation of two of the vets i'd seen. As a last resort, and after much research, I stumbled across the Cur-OST products and consulted with Dr. Schell. He asked me to give him 2 weeks on his program, and as a last resort I decided to give it a shot. SO glad I did. I had a new horse in less than 3- days and haven't looked back.
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | newlifecowgirl - 2017-04-27 11:13 PM Thank you for the supplement and herbal suggestions. I will definitely look into them. I am a little leary of adding more supplements to his diet , only because he is pssm type 1. He's on a very specific diet/supplement regiment to keep the pssm under control, and the thought of having to add another herbal/supplement to his already expensive routine makes me grit my teeth. I have tried a few different supplement companies lung formulas, with zero improvement. I will look into them, if they have a money back guarantee I will give it a try. So far I have been recommended Cur-ost and forco. Besides supplements, any recommendations for me to keep in mind? I am going to talk to my boarding place about wetting down his hay.
I used the CurOst products on my PSSM mare and it helped her tremendously...hope that helps. I am a firm believer in the CurOst products I tried pretty much everything else to help her with the PSSM and the CurOst helped the most and she had no episodes on it. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Research DMG - It's also known as a form of vitamin B10. It helps the body utilize oxygen and helps with breathing & allergies. I've seen it work on several with heaves and it's not expensive. I've also had luck on some horses with Cough Free. |
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Location: Eatonville, wa | I talked to the very nice people at Cur-ost. They are sending me samples. However I don't know if I can afford to keep him on something that expensive ($245 per month!)
I also talked to my vet again and at this time we are going the steroid route to get this under control. We both agree its allergen COPD. Once we have the coughing and wheezing under control I am going to slowly experiment with more natural alternatives
Waiting on my nebulizer to get here and will gp that route as well. |
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | They make lots of different kind of masks that go over the nose. I have a horse who has headshaking syndrome and many people try these masks for that. I'd get one that covers his face and his nose. It can't hurt to try to keep out as much pollens and dust as you can. |
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| I understand what u are going through. Have spent several thousand dollars on vet bills, meds and herbs without much relief. Someone on this site was using silver care with Flonase in their nebulizer. Started it every day for seven days, then every other day and then maybe every three days, I will see if I can find it. I give it to my mare everyday that I ride her has helped more than any of the vet treatments, worth a shot |
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Location: Jersey Girl | I had a horse with COPD. No supplement you could buy helped her (and I tried alot of them). The only thing that did help was steriods when she had flair ups.
I would try the nebulizer and not waste money on the supplements. |
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