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1. People receiving free medicaid medical services can now be forced to work ( Up to individual states) for their coverage.
2. Citizens will no longer be required to buy health care coverage.
I am sure much more will change when it gets to the senate but its a start..
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Location: Kansas | where is the link covering all the info in the new bill? |
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Location: Pittsburg, Texas 75686 | I love it!!  Keep hearing "what about the 24 million" that will lost coverage? I say what about the 255 million that were forced to pay for the ones that didn't work or were forced to pay for coverage they couldn't use and did not apply to them. What about the millions that were forced to pay for health care but could never afford to use it because they couldn't pay the deductable and the co pay.
They will work their way to improving this.
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| krape - 2017-05-04 2:26 PM
I love it!! Keep hearing "what about the 24 million" that will lost coverage? I say what about the 255 million that were forced to pay for the ones that didn't work or were forced to pay for coverage they couldn't use and did not apply to them. What about the millions that were forced to pay for health care but could never afford to use it because they couldn't pay the deductable and the co pay. They will work their way to improving this. I love the idea of people "working" for what they get. Amen
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2017-05-04 12:08 PM
where is the link covering all the info in the new bill?
my local news www.abc7.com |
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Location: Kansas | FLITASTIC - 2017-05-04 2:34 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2017-05-04 12:08 PM where is the link covering all the info in the new bill? my local news www.abc7.com
Thank you. The only ones I've been able to find on google were saying how badly this will affect all americans. I wanted to see what it would actually do |
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| This is a cut and paste from my local news... Courtesy of ABC7
The bill would eliminate tax penalties Obama's law which has clamped down on people who don't buy coverage and it erases tax increases in the Affordable Care Act on higher-earning people and the health industry.
It cuts the Medicaid program for low-income people and lets states impose work requirements on Medicaid recipients.
It transforms Obama's subsidies for millions buying insurance - largely based on people's incomes and premium costs - into tax credits that rise with consumers' ages.
It would retain Obama's requirement that family policies cover grown children until age 26.
But states could get federal waivers freeing insurers from other Obama coverage requirements.
With waivers, insurers could charge people with pre-existing illnesses far higher rates than healthy customers, boost prices for older consumers to whatever they wish and ignore the mandate that they cover specified services like pregnancy care.
The bill would block federal payments to Planned Parenthood for a year, considered a triumph by many anti-abortion Republicans.
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | FLITASTIC - 2017-05-04 2:58 PM
This is a cut and paste from my local news... Courtesy of ABC7
The bill would eliminate tax penalties Obama's law which has clamped down on people who don't buy coverage and it erases tax increases in the Affordable Care Act on higher-earning people and the health industry.
It cuts the Medicaid program for low-income people and lets states impose work requirements on Medicaid recipients.
It transforms Obama's subsidies for millions buying insurance - largely based on people's incomes and premium costs - into tax credits that rise with consumers' ages.
It would retain Obama's requirement that family policies cover grown children until age 26.
But states could get federal waivers freeing insurers from other Obama coverage requirements.
With waivers, insurers could charge people with pre-existing illnesses far higher rates than healthy customers, boost prices for older consumers to whatever they wish and ignore the mandate that they cover specified services like pregnancy care.
The bill would block federal payments to Planned Parenthood for a year, considered a triumph by many anti-abortion Republicans.
Sounds like more of a free market system.
It only makes sense that healthy people would pay lower premiums as they are not costing the insurance companies nearly as much. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | All I know is right now our health insurance monthly premium payment is way to high and our deductible for just my husband and I is $13000. We have to get run over by a tractor to use it. We end up paying for everything out of pocket except perscriptions and never get over our deductable. So in essence, we pay a big worthless monthly bill for absolutely nothing. |
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Location: Kansas | ThreeCorners - 2017-05-04 3:50 PM All I know is right now our health insurance monthly premium payment is way to high and our deductible for just my husband and I is $13000. We have to get run over by a tractor to use it. We end up paying for everything out of pocket except perscriptions and never get over our deductable. So in essence, we pay a big worthless monthly bill for absolutely nothing.
that is basically what it is for my daughter and myself.....$11,000 deductible and I think the out of pocket max was around the same (have to look can't remember) |
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-05-04 11:33 AM
Some of my favorite parts....
1. People receiving free medicaid medical services can now be forced to work ( Up to individual states) for their coverage.
2. Citizens will no longer be required to buy health care coverage.
I am sure much more will change when it gets to the senate but its a start..
Well forcing people to work certainly won't happen in our lovely state of Taxifornia. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | ThreeCorners - 2017-05-04 3:50 PM All I know is right now our health insurance monthly premium payment is way to high and our deductible for just my husband and I is $13000. We have to get run over by a tractor to use it. We end up paying for everything out of pocket except perscriptions and never get over our deductable. So in essence, we pay a big worthless monthly bill for absolutely nothing.
Obamacare is not health care insurance. It is catastrophic medical insurance. What the real kicker is that the ones that get it free abuse it. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I have to kind of laugh at the people who are rejoicing about this today.....IF they REALLY think that changing the Health Care Bill will lower THEIR premiums, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I will sell them. The insurance companies have those premiums just where they want them and they sure as heck are NOT going to lower them. This has never been a health care bill problem but an insurance industry problem. Even covering pre-existing, maternity, etc insurance companies are making BILLIONS ..... |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | If Insurance Companies are making so much money why are so many leaving different states? |
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| We'll see what happens when the Senate takes their crayons to it.
Actually for A LOT of people premiums will go down bc of choice of plans. You won't be forced to buy maternity insurance if youre a man. |
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| I think one of the big pluses is that healthcare won't be mandatory. And I agree with the post above Californians will not work here in our lovely POS state. I agree. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | NJJ - 2017-05-04 6:19 PM
I have to kind of laugh at the people who are rejoicing about this today.....IF they REALLY think that changing the Health Care Bill will lower THEIR premiums, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I will sell them. The insurance companies have those premiums just where they want them and they sure as heck are NOT going to lower them. This has never been a health care bill problem but an insurance industry problem. Even covering pre-existing, maternity, etc insurance companies are making BILLIONS .....
I don't think it's all that... YET. But, it's a step in the right direction. I had a real problem with people being forced to purchase insurance and I had a huge problem with being one of the ones paying more to pay for those who will not work. Health care and the insurance industry definitely need work. This isn't the answer to all of the problems, but a step in the right direction. When private insurance companies have to compete for your business, it will force the costs down, I believe that. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Did it do anything about being able to purchase coverage across state lines? |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | We will see IF the bill passes the Senate and what changes occur there. Only time will tell the long term effects.
IMHO we will still be paying for those who can't or don't have insurance as they will not be denied treatment in the emergency rooms. Providers will pass their losses to the paying customers.
Health care premiums have been escalating expotentially for the last 40 years (both before and after Obamacare) so I do not forsee that this bill will change that.
Until someone comes up with a way to get a handle on healthcare costs the healthcare consumer is going to contine to be screwed. Certainly cost containment is not going to happen with congress and the senate in the pockers of the industry. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | SC Wrangler - 2017-05-05 12:26 PM We will see IF the bill passes the Senate and what changes occur there. Only time will tell the long term effects.
IMHO we will still be paying for those who can't or don't have insurance as they will not be denied treatment in the emergency rooms. Providers will pass their losses to the paying customers.
Health care premiums have been escalating expotentially for the last 40 years (both before and after Obamacare) so I do not forsee that this bill will change that.
Until someone comes up with a way to get a handle on healthcare costs the healthcare consumer is going to contine to be screwed. Certainly cost containment is not going to happen with congress and the senate in the pockers of the industry.
Tort reforms would go a long way towards correcting what ails HC
but Lawyers will never cost Lawyers money.
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