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Location: Duvall, WA | We are getting a new (used) truck. We also may at some point get a 4H weekender LQ. Do we need to get a dually? The trailer people say no, the truck people say yes. The truck won't be driven every day, but of course a dually is still a bit of a pain for anything besides hauling. Plus more expensive plus harder to find used. But if we are going to buy something we sure as heck don't want to buy something then find it is not safe to haul a bigger trailer (we have a 3H bp now). Opinions? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would go with a dually for the safety and stability of pulling a bigger trailer and you have better stoping power when needed. |
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Location: Texas | You can still safely pull a 4H LQ trailer with a 3/4 ton pickup. Depends on how big of a trailer you go with. Also need to make sure you're using trailer brakes. |
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Location: Duvall, WA | It will be a one ton diesel. |
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| If you don't already own the trailer you want to have, then try and find a dually.
I bought my neighbors 3/4 ton before I bought my LQ trailer because I *thought* I knew what I'd be getting in a trailer. Ended up with one bigger than that and traded the truck off after owning it 9 months for a dually. Didn't lose much at all on the deal but in hindsight I would have gotten the dually in the first place. Especially with it being an 8' wide trailer, the extra stability is a big plus.
If you can find a dually in your price range you won't limit yourself as much on the future trailer purchase. |
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Location: WI | Avoid a dually. More expensive. More lights. More issues. I'll never get another one |
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Location: SW New Mexico | I got talked Into? buying my dually one ton..by my brother.
What a difference! I don't feel the wind, and feel safer in rainy weather.
Best decision, love the power, and stability!.
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| Been doing a lot of traveling lately (15-30 hr trips) and you'll never catch me without a dually. The amount of people with campers and trailers swinging like mad across the freeway is downright scary. The safety and stability it brings is totally worth the extra money when hauling. |
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Location: CTX | WiscoRacer - 2017-05-10 12:32 AM Been doing a lot of traveling lately (15-30 hr trips) and you'll never catch me without a dually. The amount of people with campers and trailers swinging like mad across the freeway is downright scary. The safety and stability it brings is totally worth the extra money when hauling.
^^^ This!
Can you pull such a trailer without a dually, of course. But just the stability makes such a big difference. I will not be pulling a trailer without again.
And once you get used to driving it around you won't have any problems parking or manouvering it. Yes you might have to park a little farther from the buildings, but other than that you will be fine. |
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Location: IL | Depends on the GVWR on the trailer. I pull a 3 horse 10 ft shortwall LQ featherlite trailer. I had a F350 SRW and I have no problems, not stopping or wind and rain. Look up what your truck can pull and pay attention to the GVWR on the trailer. Aluminum trailers are way lighter, so I'd steer clear of steel ones. Don't listen to the dealers, truck or trailer. They just want to make a sale. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | merdth6 - 2017-05-10 12:03 PM Aluminum trailers are way lighter, so I'd steer clear of steel ones.
this is incorrect
by wieght Alum will approx. 10% lighter |
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Location: OH | 1DSoon - 2017-05-10 12:27 PM merdth6 - 2017-05-10 12:03 PM Aluminum trailers are way lighter, so I'd steer clear of steel ones. this is incorrect
by wieght Alum will approx. 10% lighter
This is true---aluminum trailers are not a lot lighter, they just last a lot longer. |
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Location: IL | 1DSoon - 2017-05-10 11:27 AM merdth6 - 2017-05-10 12:03 PM Aluminum trailers are way lighter, so I'd steer clear of steel ones. this is incorrect
by wieght Alum will approx. 10% lighter
Well I guess still lighter and from what I've seen they are way lighter. A 16,000 lb steel trailer would mean a 2,000 lb difference in an aluminum trailer. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | Depends on the weight of what youre buying.
We pulled a super heavy logan 4H weekender with a single wheel no problem. We did end up upgrading to a dually and love the added stability. It was also nice to not have to worry when we upgraded the trailer (although our new one is lighter). But we did not have any issues pulling it with the single wheel. |
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| 1DSoon - 2017-05-10 9:27 AM
merdth6 - 2017-05-10 12:03 PM Aluminum trailers are way lighter, so I'd steer clear of steel ones.
this is incorrect
by wieght Alum will approx. 10% lighter
Aluminum won't rust either
Just FYI, Dodge Ram 3500 Dually with Aisin transmission has the highest towing payload on the market ( With 410 gears) at 33,000 pounds |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | FLITASTIC - 2017-05-10 1:01 PM 1DSoon - 2017-05-10 9:27 AM merdth6 - 2017-05-10 12:03 PM Aluminum trailers are way lighter, so I'd steer clear of steel ones. this is incorrect
by wieght Alum will approx. 10% lighter Aluminum won't rust either Just FYI, Dodge Ram 3500 Dually with Aisin transmission has the highest towing payload on the market ( With 410 gears ) at 33,000 pounds
technically it will,,,,,,but is much more corrosion resistant than steel.
There are a plethora of reasons to choose aluminum, but weight is way down the list. |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | cranky B4 10am - 2017-05-10 6:49 AM
WiscoRacer - 2017-05-10 12:32 AM Been doing a lot of traveling lately (15-30 hr trips) and you'll never catch me without a dually. The amount of people with campers and trailers swinging like mad across the freeway is downright scary. The safety and stability it brings is totally worth the extra money when hauling.
^^^ This!
Can you pull such a trailer without a dually, of course. But just the stability makes such a big difference. I will not be pulling a trailer without again.
And once you get used to driving it around you won't have any problems parking or manouvering it. Yes you might have to park a little farther from the buildings, but other than that you will be fine.
I am with these two. I hauled a 3 horse gooseneck with a 3/4 ton diesel. Lots of power and no problem pulling and stopping, however, our next truck was a dually. From day one, I felt much safer pulling with a dually. So much more stability. Personally, I would never consider pulling a 4 horse with LQ, with anything less than a dually. Especially if you are going to use the truck primarily for hauling because if you invest the money now and maintain the truck properly you will have it for years. Mine is a 1994 and I still haul with it, well worth the investment and we didn't buy it new. |
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| Do you NEED a dually? Probably not. . .but I sure like having ours. We have a 3H LQ with 11ft LQ that we are pulling with a dually right now. I love the way it hauls and pulls, but we purchased the dually because we knew in the next year or two we will be upgrading to a 4 or 5 horse trailer with LQ. |
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Location: Where the buffalo roam | We have pulled our 3H Bloomer/14' SW LQ with a single for 15 years. A Dodge 3/4 ton pulled it just fine, but going to a Chevy Duramax 1-ton made a world of difference in pulling power. We used to have duallys and I have noticed no difference in the stability and we have extreme wind conditions around here. If i were to go to a 4H and added a slide out I would then probably want to go to the dually as it spreads the weight on the 4 tires so would not have to replace them as often. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Nobody - 2017-05-10 12:28 PM We have pulled our 3H Bloomer/14' SW LQ with a single for 15 years. A Dodge 3/4 ton pulled it just fine, but going to a Chevy Duramax 1-ton made a world of difference in pulling power. We used to have duallys and I have noticed no difference in the stability and we have extreme wind conditions around here. If i were to go to a 4H and added a slide out I would then probably want to go to the dually as it spreads the weight on the 4 tires so would not have to replace them as often.
I have a 3 horse with 14' shortwall, and when I bought the trailer I went to the truck scales and weighed it. The pin weight was too high for a SRW truck, whether 3/4 or 1 ton. Not just springs, an air bag assist could have helped with that, but also too high for the tires. The weight of the entire rig was 19,000 pounds before gear and horses. |
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