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boon
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| I'm looking at two prospects, same money, both with good conformation.
1. 2 year old by Judge Cash out of a Sunfrost daughter, not started
2. 4 year old by Famous Charmer out of a circuit finals qualifying mare, started but not on the pattern.
I understand people will prefer one stud to the other, etc. Looking for opinions on which is the better investment?
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| Depends on what your goals are at this time. Do you want to wait 2-3 years to start going with a horse, or basically pattern and futurity next year? I don't necessarily think you'll go wrong on either. |
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boon
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| Nateracer - 2017-05-19 10:40 AM
Depends on what your goals are at this time. Do you want to wait 2-3 years to start going with a horse, or basically pattern and futurity next year? I don't necessarily think you'll go wrong on either.
I get that. And if they were the same age it would be a no brainer for me. The goal is to sell them and make a profit. The 4 year old obviously can be patterned and sold sooner. But the 2 year old's sire is far more proven and in theory should go for more once on the pattern, but will also have a lot more time in it by then. |
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Location: WI | BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-19 10:48 AM Nateracer - 2017-05-19 10:40 AM Depends on what your goals are at this time. Do you want to wait 2-3 years to start going with a horse, or basically pattern and futurity next year? I don't necessarily think you'll go wrong on either. I get that. And if they were the same age it would be a no brainer for me. The goal is to sell them and make a profit. The 4 year old obviously can be patterned and sold sooner. But the 2 year old's sire is far more proven and in theory should go for more once on the pattern, but will also have a lot more time in it by then.
Since the goal is resale, I would go for the 4yo. Your bills will rack up on the 2yo before it's time to sell. |
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Location: NeverLand | Because you are looking to re sell, then the 4 year old no doubt! when trying to resell you looking to make money. So that would be my go to horse. |
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Miss Laundry Misshap
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| BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-19 10:48 AM Nateracer - 2017-05-19 10:40 AM Depends on what your goals are at this time. Do you want to wait 2-3 years to start going with a horse, or basically pattern and futurity next year? I don't necessarily think you'll go wrong on either. I get that. And if they were the same age it would be a no brainer for me. The goal is to sell them and make a profit. The 4 year old obviously can be patterned and sold sooner. But the 2 year old's sire is far more proven and in theory should go for more once on the pattern, but will also have a lot more time in it by then.
I agree with others, if the goal is to sell, then the 4yo hands down. |
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | Nateracer - 2017-05-19 1:18 PM BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-19 10:48 AM Nateracer - 2017-05-19 10:40 AM Depends on what your goals are at this time. Do you want to wait 2-3 years to start going with a horse, or basically pattern and futurity next year? I don't necessarily think you'll go wrong on either. I get that. And if they were the same age it would be a no brainer for me. The goal is to sell them and make a profit. The 4 year old obviously can be patterned and sold sooner. But the 2 year old's sire is far more proven and in theory should go for more once on the pattern, but will also have a lot more time in it by then.
Hate to play devils advocate here but the four year old has already lost its futurity market---the two year old has a greater upside once riding. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Mighty Broke - 2017-05-19 1:05 PM Nateracer - 2017-05-19 1:18 PM BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-19 10:48 AM Nateracer - 2017-05-19 10:40 AM Depends on what your goals are at this time. Do you want to wait 2-3 years to start going with a horse, or basically pattern and futurity next year? I don't necessarily think you'll go wrong on either. I get that. And if they were the same age it would be a no brainer for me. The goal is to sell them and make a profit. The 4 year old obviously can be patterned and sold sooner. But the 2 year old's sire is far more proven and in theory should go for more once on the pattern, but will also have a lot more time in it by then.
My choice would be the 2 year old too, The breeding speaks for itself.. Handsdown for sure if built correct  |
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Location: WI | Mighty Broke - 2017-05-19 1:05 PM Nateracer - 2017-05-19 1:18 PM BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-19 10:48 AM Nateracer - 2017-05-19 10:40 AM Depends on what your goals are at this time. Do you want to wait 2-3 years to start going with a horse, or basically pattern and futurity next year? I don't necessarily think you'll go wrong on either. I get that. And if they were the same age it would be a no brainer for me. The goal is to sell them and make a profit. The 4 year old obviously can be patterned and sold sooner. But the 2 year old's sire is far more proven and in theory should go for more once on the pattern, but will also have a lot more time in it by then.
I disagree with this - there are a lot of 5yo futurities up north. She could sell this fall and someone would start running it in December. |
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Location: OH | linds - 2017-05-19 2:18 PM Mighty Broke - 2017-05-19 1:05 PM Nateracer - 2017-05-19 1:18 PM BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-19 10:48 AM Nateracer - 2017-05-19 10:40 AM Depends on what your goals are at this time. Do you want to wait 2-3 years to start going with a horse, or basically pattern and futurity next year? I don't necessarily think you'll go wrong on either. I get that. And if they were the same age it would be a no brainer for me. The goal is to sell them and make a profit. The 4 year old obviously can be patterned and sold sooner. But the 2 year old's sire is far more proven and in theory should go for more once on the pattern, but will also have a lot more time in it by then.
True, but that still limits your market---therefore the value. Again, just my opinion, sure doesn't mean I am right. LOL |
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Location: Oklahoma | BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-19 10:48 AM
Nateracer - 2017-05-19 10:40 AM
Depends on what your goals are at this time. Do you want to wait 2-3 years to start going with a horse, or basically pattern and futurity next year? I don't necessarily think you'll go wrong on either.
I get that. And if they were the same age it would be a no brainer for me. The goal is to sell them and make a profit. The 4 year old obviously can be patterned and sold sooner. But the 2 year old's sire is far more proven and in theory should go for more once on the pattern, but will also have a lot more time in it by then.
Idk that the 2 yr old's sire is more proven....yes, he's had one at the NFR, but honestly, the Famous Charmer's have done well in futurities and they are SO PRETTY!! Before I even looked at age, I looked at the two bloodlines and picked the Famous Charmer. I wanted one of those bad, but now that I've quit, I guess that I won't ever have the privilege to ride one. I do like them, though! It really depends also if you are going to try to market to futurity riders or people who run barrels but don't do futurities. Personally, I always found the little bit older horses sold better than the younger ones. Just my experience. |
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Location: In a happy place | I like the two year old. |
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| #1 hands down! No questions asked!! If you want a barrel horse! If not I have a famous charmer trail horse for you :) |
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boon
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| Thank you all for the help! |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-23 4:36 PM Thank you all for the help!
Wellll who was the pick?  |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-23 4:50 PM BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-23 4:36 PM Thank you all for the help! Wellll who was the pick?
Yes update!! |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2017-05-23 4:52 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-23 4:50 PM BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-23 4:36 PM Thank you all for the help! Wellll who was the pick?
Yep update would be nice  |
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Location: USA | I was looking for a prospect early spring and those were two lines I was looking at as well... I did my homework and bought the Famous Charmer out of a Frenchmans Guy mare. Very happy with my decision. |
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-23 6:02 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-05-23 4:52 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-23 4:50 PM BlazinJetMaidMe - 2017-05-23 4:36 PM Thank you all for the help! Wellll who was the pick?
Inquiring minds want to know!! |
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boon
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| The pick is going to be the Judge Cash 2 yr old  |
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