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| At the last two rodeos, my horse has not acted himself. He pins his ears at other horses, won't stand still, and stomps angrily as if there's awful flies but there isn't. He's been acting fine at home, and this is a new problem. Last week he went in the gate perfect and we had a great run until midway through 3rd he started bucking and bucked he whole way home. He's 14 and very finished, this is Very unlike him. After his run i led him outside and he was swishing his tail angrily and kicking with his back legs, up at his belly, and behind him. I loosened his backcinch and he stopped. I assumed it was tighter then he liked and so this week I ran him with a loose backcinch. As I was waiting to run he stomped his front feet and back feet again but there was absolutely no flies. He walked right through the gate ( we sometimes have gate issues) and then had a really great run. After the run he was angrily kicking behind him with his back feet. One of my friends took off his back boots and he kicked at her, and continued kicking forward and back and stomping for about 5 min. As I led him to the trailer he was swishing his tail and he pawed constantly as he was in the trailer before we left (30 min) he has never done this and he's usually sweet, calm, and friendly to other horses. I'm having him vetted, but he is 100% sound trotting on pavement and acts full of energy. Chiro done this week, teeth are good, saddle fits, he's not lame, nothing different then our normal routine, so I'm completely clueless. Today he's in his stall kicking his back legs constantly. What could be wrong?!! |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Check his hind suspensories.
What are his Vital signs?
Is he eating all his rations?
Any heat in his legs? |
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Location: Bandera, TX | If he's bleeding his respiratory rate is unusually high post the run for awhile plus he may get "higher" instead of relaxed as you trot and walk out during your cool down. Most bleeders or a horse with a stomach ulcer will not want to drink water straight away for me. I believe it burns their stomach when the water and the blood mix. If I give a bit of alfalfa then they will drink and begin to relax.
Most of the time the first (right) barrel turn that's blown can be a sign to me of stomach ulcers.
Have you ever considered the S/S of ulcers to see if that's a possibility? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sounds like Uclers to me or could be a bleeder.. Poor guy. |
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2017-05-21 10:49 AM
Check his hind suspensories.
What are his Vital signs?
Is he eating all his rations?
Any heat in his legs?
Everything normal, he's eating fine, and no heat.
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2017-05-21 10:56 AM
If he's bleeding his respiratory rate is unusually high post the run for awhile plus he may get "higher" instead of relaxed as you trot and walk out during your cool down. Most bleeders or a horse with a stomach ulcer will not want to drink water straight away for me. I believe it burns their stomach when the water and the blood mix. If I give a bit of alfalfa then they will drink and begin to relax.
Most of the time the first (right) barrel turn that's blown can be a sign to me of stomach ulcers.
Have you ever considered the S/S of ulcers to see if that's a possibility?
He wasn't breathing hard after his run, and cooled down very fast. No problems with first barrel, but he's had ulcers in the past. So it could be a possibility. But if I remember correctly they seem lethargic and lose weight. That's what happened to him when he had ulcers a couple years ago. He's fat and energetic now. I'm taking him to the University vet school tomorrow am for a full exam |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Perfect, they can get labs done and a scope on the spot. Remember to not feed him tonight. Please let me know what they say. Good thoughts for a find of the cause. |
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| When was the last time his sheath was cleaned? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Since this horse had a history of having Uclers that would be my top of the list to be checking him for. And he does sound like hes a bit colicy to me too. |
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| streakysox - 2017-05-21 1:19 PM
When was the last time his sheath was cleaned?
Last fall, but he usually stays pretty clean. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-21 1:24 PM
Since this horse had a history of having Uclers that would be my top of the list to be checking him for. And he does sound like hes a bit colicy to me too.
Yes, I will be sure to have him scoped tomorrow. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Kissing spine? |
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| Poor guy he's definitely telling you something is wrong. Hope your able to find out quickly and get him back to his old self. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | You could try palpating his muscles and maybe doing some flexing on his legs, see if you can figure out if it's some pain somewhere besides ulcers. But, it does sound like ulcers. |
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| caspersabelpip - 2017-05-21 1:37 PM
Poor guy he's definitely telling you something is wrong. Hope your able to find out quickly and get him back to his old self.
Thank you! And thanks everyone for all the helpful replies! I'm praying it's something minor with an easy fix.
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| Nita - 2017-05-21 1:43 PM
You could try palpating his muscles and maybe doing some flexing on his legs, see if you can figure out if it's some pain somewhere besides ulcers. But, it does sound like ulcers.
Felt him all over no heat, no tenderness. |
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| IowaCanChaser - 2017-05-21 11:10 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2017-05-21 10:56 AM If he's bleeding his respiratory rate is unusually high post the run for awhile plus he may get "higher" instead of relaxed as you trot and walk out during your cool down. Most bleeders or a horse with a stomach ulcer will not want to drink water straight away for me. I believe it burns their stomach when the water and the blood mix. If I give a bit of alfalfa then they will drink and begin to relax.
Most of the time the first (right) barrel turn that's blown can be a sign to me of stomach ulcers.
Have you ever considered the S/S of ulcers to see if that's a possibility? He wasn't breathing hard after his run, and cooled down very fast. No problems with first barrel, but he's had ulcers in the past. So it could be a possibility. But if I remember correctly they seem lethargic and lose weight. That's what happened to him when he had ulcers a couple years ago. He's fat and energetic now. I'm taking him to the University vet school tomorrow am for a full exam
I have a bleeder who has 0 other symptoms, no cough, recovers exceptionally fast. I f he had not bled a trickle which led to having him scoped I would have sworn he was not a bleeder. I definitely would arrange a scope as close to a run as you can since he is acting different. Good luck, hope it is minor. |
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Location: Always in the Jungle of Ohio | Fusing hocks..... has he been injected? |
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| CHEETAH - 2017-05-21 2:14 PM
Fusing hocks..... has he been injected?
He's been injected once ever, it was in March. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2017-05-21 2:07 PM
IowaCanChaser - 2017-05-21 11:10 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2017-05-21 10:56 AM If he's bleeding his respiratory rate is unusually high post the run for awhile plus he may get "higher" instead of relaxed as you trot and walk out during your cool down. Most bleeders or a horse with a stomach ulcer will not want to drink water straight away for me. I believe it burns their stomach when the water and the blood mix. If I give a bit of alfalfa then they will drink and begin to relax.
Most of the time the first (right) barrel turn that's blown can be a sign to me of stomach ulcers.
Have you ever considered the S/S of ulcers to see if that's a possibility? He wasn't breathing hard after his run, and cooled down very fast. No problems with first barrel, but he's had ulcers in the past. So it could be a possibility. But if I remember correctly they seem lethargic and lose weight. That's what happened to him when he had ulcers a couple years ago. He's fat and energetic now. I'm taking him to the University vet school tomorrow am for a full exam
How close to a run does it need to be done? Is 2 days after too long? |
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