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| This mare is by The Ole Man out of a daughter of On A High.
If I had the cash and need for an older broodie I'd probably buy her. Here's a link if anyone is interested.
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| Love that maternal side too!!!! |
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Location: OH | Mare has to have "issues" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| I tried to find info on the current owner but only a fb page with 2 "likes."
Looks like 4 foals on the ground though. |
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| Mighty Broke - 2017-05-23 1:30 PM Mare has to have "issues" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Just a thought, some people are willing to take the risk.
I took in a 23 year d mare that had had issues in the past and were unable to get or keep in her in foal for the last 5 years. Turns out she had a uterine infection. Cleared it up, caslicked her, and she is now safely in foal. Even if I only get one baby from her I feel it will be well worth it. Then again I was also able and willing to take a loss if she was unable to produce. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | It seems to me that these kill pen rescues are a growing business.
What would a horse like that bring from the killers? $350-400?
Just curious. |
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| Bear - 2017-05-23 2:27 PM
It seems to me that these kill pen rescues are a growing business.
What would a horse like that bring from the killers? $350-400?
Just curious.
Last time I was in a low end sale barn, meat weight was a little over $200 or so. But that was before they closed the us plants, so I dunno. $2-300 sounds about right. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | hannahbug - 2017-05-23 3:08 PM
Bear - 2017-05-23 2:27 PM
It seems to me that these kill pen rescues are a growing business.
What would a horse like that bring from the killers? $350-400?
Just curious.
Last time I was in a low end sale barn, meat weight was a little over $200 or so. But that was before they closed the us plants, so I dunno. $2-300 sounds about right.
So.....$200 becomes $850, then. Low overhead and the internet makes this an attractive business to some people. |
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| Bear - 2017-05-23 3:13 PM hannahbug - 2017-05-23 3:08 PM Bear - 2017-05-23 2:27 PM It seems to me that these kill pen rescues are a growing business. What would a horse like that bring from the killers? $350-400? Just curious. Last time I was in a low end sale barn, meat weight was a little over $200 or so. But that was before they closed the us plants, so I dunno. $2-300 sounds about right. So.....$200 becomes $850, then. Low overhead and the internet makes this an attractive business to some people.
I was looking for a bleeding heart emot but couldn't find one. |
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| Bear - 2017-05-23 3:13 PM
hannahbug - 2017-05-23 3:08 PM
Bear - 2017-05-23 2:27 PM
It seems to me that these kill pen rescues are a growing business.
What would a horse like that bring from the killers? $350-400?
Just curious.
Last time I was in a low end sale barn, meat weight was a little over $200 or so. But that was before they closed the us plants, so I dunno. $2-300 sounds about right.
So.....$200 becomes $850, then. Low overhead and the internet makes this an attractive business to some people.
Yep. I bought a mini donkey Moma and 5 day old baby from the Kaufman kill pen. Saw them on FB Saturday morning, I live 4 hours away, no way I could get there before they close at noon and they would be closed the next 2 days. They gave be the numbers of "quarantine" barns who will pick them up so they are not exposed to the diseases there. I get it arranged with one of these folks- could find zero information on them though. They really pushed me to leave them there for two weeks, I said no I would be there in the morning to pick them up, I had a bad feeling about them. Sure enough the horses are nose to nose across low stall walls, sharing nasty water, no hay and most desperately needed groceries. Those horses were not in much better conditions then at the kill pen much less being "quarantined" and they were charging out the wazoo to board there. Lots of low life scammers surround these kill pens. I paid $500 for my donkeys, kill pen maybe paid $20 for them. I don't mind the kill pen making money, no different than an individual buying them at auction then flipping them other than the kill pen has the emotional tug to "save" them. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | The horses that end up at the facebook "rescue" sites are horses that are too "good" to go to Slaughter, but still have problems. Sometimes owners die and the horses have no where to go. Sometimes the horses are sold because the owners cannot afford them any longer and have run out of options. With that said, this horse depending on weight should only bring about $400. These people take advantage of bleeding hearts and make an astronomical amount of money flipping these horses.
If you truly want to rescue horses, go bid against the kill buyers yourself. It's cheaper. You cut out the middle man. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | And then the kill buyer turns around and takes the bleeding heart's money and has even more cash to out bid private buyers at the next auction...and so the cycle continues. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | TrailGirl - 2017-05-23 3:53 PM And then the kill buyer turns around and takes the bleeding heart's money and has even more cash to out bid private buyers at the next auction...and so the cycle continues.
HA!
I promise you, once the price per horse gets over a certain amount per pound, the kill buyer backs out. Kill buyers aren't going to "outbid" a private buyer. Even by $50. They'll bid on the next one. If you want one bad enough, they'll let you have it.  |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I've seen breeders trying to sell mares that are 18-early 20's IN FOAL for $500 and no takers. Yet if they run them to a sale barn for the bleeding hearts to buy, they are condemed as horse killers. I had one myself that I would never have thought to take to a kill barn, I owned her for 8 yrs of her life and knew all about her. I could tell them her vaccination/deworming/farrier/teeth float history. She was an easy breeder and just required a caslick. I thought I would never find her a home. $500 4 months from foaling and she was 22. She was a producing daughter of Mr Dark Jet.
and yet people will pay $800-$1000 to save a horse they know ZERO about. In all honesty, both types need a good home... |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Think about this:
How can you prove the papers belong to horses here? I've seen people switch papers so many times it isn't funny. People are shady at these auctions. Papers only bring 100 to 200 more than grade. You can't prove papers belong to horses at these places. Is it a black horse with a sock and snip, look there';s another black with a sock and snip that is heavier in weight. Lets throw papers on that one instead.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | IRunOnFaith - 2017-05-23 2:56 PM TrailGirl - 2017-05-23 3:53 PM And then the kill buyer turns around and takes the bleeding heart's money and has even more cash to out bid private buyers at the next auction...and so the cycle continues. HA!
I promise you, once the price per horse gets over a certain amount per pound, the kill buyer backs out. Kill buyers aren't going to "outbid" a private buyer. Even by $50. They'll bid on the next one. If you want one bad enough, they'll let you have it.
This is the truth. There are plenty of cheap kill horses out there. They aren't going to pay a penny more than they have to. It's the middle people that are out to scam... |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-23 4:00 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-05-23 2:56 PM TrailGirl - 2017-05-23 3:53 PM And then the kill buyer turns around and takes the bleeding heart's money and has even more cash to out bid private buyers at the next auction...and so the cycle continues. HA!
I promise you, once the price per horse gets over a certain amount per pound, the kill buyer backs out. Kill buyers aren't going to "outbid" a private buyer. Even by $50. They'll bid on the next one. If you want one bad enough, they'll let you have it.
I will agree, some horses do not belong at the sale. Some horses still have lots of life left. But the majority are too far gone....
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | IRunOnFaith - 2017-05-23 3:04 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-23 4:00 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-05-23 2:56 PM TrailGirl - 2017-05-23 3:53 PM And then the kill buyer turns around and takes the bleeding heart's money and has even more cash to out bid private buyers at the next auction...and so the cycle continues. HA!
I promise you, once the price per horse gets over a certain amount per pound, the kill buyer backs out. Kill buyers aren't going to "outbid" a private buyer. Even by $50. They'll bid on the next one. If you want one bad enough, they'll let you have it.
I will agree, some horses do not belong at the sale. Some horses still have lots of life left. But the majority are too far gone....
same as a dog pound. Lots of trouble...or love to be found. Many a trusted kids horse has come out of a kill pen, but they usually are pretty crippled too and if they could talk would most likely tell you they are in a lot of pain. Kids don't always have the horse's best interest at heart too when they want to ride and have fun. I know a local lady that bought 99% of her broodmares at the kill pen. All well bred. All ding bats that raised some half dangerous babies. Her program got quite the reputation in our town. So often even if they are young, gorgeous and well bred, they might be dangerous or have a reason for being there. |
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| I will say though, I think meat must be up. Not nearly what the price of these horses are being sold for but I have been to a few auctions where kill buyers are spending $350-$450 a horse. Granted they get some for $50 so maybe it evens itself out or something??
It is definitely hard to buy from these pens. I am guilty of looking but I would rather buy one before they go to the killpen. But I do disagree with the poster who said kill buyers wont outbid you because I have bid against them. Older broodie in good condition and we paid $350 and he almost bid again and we would have walked. |
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