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Location: Northern Ontario | My mare is pretty wide and she tends to be heavy on the forehand sowed work alot on collection and bringing up her shoulders. Anyone have any exercises to help lighten her front end? I noticed in a few.of our pictires that her front end has a hard time keeping up. Her hind end is pretty powerful so she has no problem taking off, it's getting her front moved over fast enough, and it's not like she doesn't try either. Here is a pic to show what I mean
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Location: Texas | Do you have a video you could share? Can't tell much from a picture. |
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Location: Northern Ontario | Yes..not sure how to share it though ?? |
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Location: Texas | SuperTrooper - 2017-06-01 9:05 PM
Yes..not sure how to share it though ??
You could upload it to youtube and then share the link. |
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Location: Loco,Ok | Doesn't she run down hill. Most time I see. Pulling to much and dropping the horse. |
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| Paul Humphreys Breaking the Mold drills will help a ton! I have one that tends to dump on her front end. Really driving her up into the bridle helps but the drills are making a huge difference. If done correctly, they cant get heavy on the front end. Have to rock back and use their hindend. |
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Location: Northern Ontario | Jazz's Girl - 2017-06-02 9:59 AM
Paul Humphreys Breaking the Mold drills will help a ton! I have one that tends to dump on her front end. Really driving her up into the bridle helps but the drills are making a huge difference. If done correctly, they cant get heavy on the front end. Have to rock back and use their hindend.
I'll try to load a video later, but this is exactly what she does. She dumps of her front end instead of staying collected and up into the bridle. Where can you get info on the drills besides the clinics? |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | Jazz's Girl - 2017-06-02 8:59 AM Paul Humphreys Breaking the Mold drills will help a ton! I have one that tends to dump on her front end. Really driving her up into the bridle helps but the drills are making a huge difference. If done correctly, they cant get heavy on the front end. Have to rock back and use their hindend.
Any examples of this? How is he suggesting to drive them up into the bridle? |
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Location: Phoenix | I like to work on transitions: lope to trot, trot to lope; keep the impulsion and don't let them drop down as they drop into a lower gait. |
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| Use your legs to drive them up into the bit |
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| tin can - 2017-06-04 7:06 PM
Use your legs to drive them up into the bit
Ditto. When I lope my front endy horse i really settle myself in the back of my saddle, set my hands with soft contact and drive him up into the bit with my legs. I also make sure whenever we are going to transition down to set him up for it and drive him through it so he stops on him butt and doesn't fall on his face. |
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| SuperTrooper - 2017-06-02 2:49 PM
Jazz's Girl - 2017-06-02 9:59 AM
Paul Humphreys Breaking the Mold drills will help a ton! I have one that tends to dump on her front end. Really driving her up into the bridle helps but the drills are making a huge difference. If done correctly, they cant get heavy on the front end. Have to rock back and use their hindend.
I'll try to load a video later, but this is exactly what she does. She dumps of her front end instead of staying collected and up into the bridle. Where can you get info on the drills besides the clinics?
Sorry I was out for the weekend and just seeing this. I know he has a few videos online you can watch. Its all about smooth, and collected circles with the horse driving from behind and the shoulders up. The transitions should be smooth and soft. Let me get caught up at work and I'll see if I can find some videos for you. |
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| cindyt - 2017-06-02 3:11 PM
Jazz's Girl - 2017-06-02 8:59 AM Paul Humphreys Breaking the Mold drills will help a ton! I have one that tends to dump on her front end. Really driving her up into the bridle helps but the drills are making a huge difference. If done correctly, they cant get heavy on the front end. Have to rock back and use their hindend.
Any examples of this? How is he suggesting to drive them up into the bridle?
I'll see if I can find any videos. Basically use your seat and legs to drive them forward. I heard so much drive her forward that I wanted to cry. LOL! I didnt realize how much I wasnt using until he showed me. |
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| This is one of the drills. This horse wants to rush though and not stay collected. My finished mare was doing this the first time I took her through them. The second time I took her though she was relaxed and her transitions smoothed out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjh4U5gerw8
Let me find more
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Location: North Dakota | SuperTrooper - 2017-06-01 10:47 PM My mare is pretty wide and she tends to be heavy on the forehand sowed work alot on collection and bringing up her shoulders. Anyone have any exercises to help lighten her front end? I noticed in a few.of our pictires that her front end has a hard time keeping up. Her hind end is pretty powerful so she has no problem taking off, it's getting her front moved over fast enough, and it's not like she doesn't try either. Here is a pic to show what I mean
I'll try to load a video later, but this is exactly what she does. She dumps of her front end instead of staying collected and up into the bridle. Where can you get info on the drills besides the clinics?
A video would be helpful.
I like a drill I learned at a Ryan Lovendahl clinic where you lope long lines, and do NOT do a barrel turn when you turn around to go the other way. Keep the front end elevated and do not let the horse dive. They learn to wait on you and keep the front end up.
We did it with 3 barrels set up in a line. And then you lope perpendicular (sort of), working on only one barrel at a time. You go way past, and left with your hands, drive with your feet, and let them slowly bring their front end around staying elevate. (Again, it is NOT a barrel turn.) And then go back past the barrel. Turn. Past the barrel. Turn. Etc. You also are not getting super close to the barrel. And you can go from barrel to barrel as you please, but you could easily do this drill with just one barrel.
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| Lots of lifting the ribcage and collection work to strengthen her back muscles...I wouldn't even bring a barrel into it until she has the strength to hold the position without struggle. You want her first reaction to a rein cue to be where she rounds her back and brings her hind leg up under her, not to hollow out and pull with her front end. If there is a working cow horse trainer in your area, go take a few lessons.
Once you add a barrel into the mix, emphasize the collection, ribcage pliability, hip in and free moving shoulders through the turn. Make sure you are not asking to turn too early to she can keep driving with her hind end.
Keeping your body soft, your torso/neck/shoulders relaxed, your feet moving and hips rolled up under you is key - I like to mimic my desired result with my body. |
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