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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2017-07-23 3:22 PM
Subject: More bad tests in QH racing.....



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 https://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/aqha-champion-trainer-kearl-among-trio-notified-alleged-class-1-drug-violations/

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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2017-07-23 3:25 PM
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Sorry, can't seem to get the link to be live right now. 

?From what I hear there are more to come also.  Kudos to the Texas guys and lab for figuring this out, been going on for quite a while and not just in Texas.  
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2017-07-23 4:50 PM
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https://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/aqha-champion-trainer-kearl-among-trio-notified-alleged-class-1-drug-violations/

 
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ma77_1
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2017-07-23 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: More bad tests in QH racing..Why would someone give it



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Just really curious why in the world would someone give a race horse this drug?  (I just read the article and I believe it says the drug can cause drowsiness)!  Seems like it would tend to slow them down instead of speeding them up?
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iloveequine40
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2017-07-23 7:07 PM
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Not surprised about Judd Kearl.
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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2017-07-23 7:33 PM
Subject: RE: More bad tests in QH racing..Why would someone give it



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ma77_1 - 2017-07-23 5:46 PM Just really curious why in the world would someone give a race horse this drug?  (I just read the article and I believe it says the drug can cause drowsiness)!  Seems like it would tend to slow them down instead of speeding them up?

Morphine makes people sleepy but it has a locomotor effect in horses, this could be the same for this drug. 
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2017-07-24 5:44 AM
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ma77_1 - 2017-07-23 4:46 PM

Just really curious why in the world would someone give a race horse this drug?  (I just read the article and I believe it says the drug can cause drowsiness)!  Seems like it would tend to slow them down instead of speeding them up?

Why? Because it was the latest one that couldn't be tested for. Drug testing only tests for things the officials know to test for. So the people running with a needle are constantly "upgrading" the stuff that they use.

They develop testing when someone comes forward and either brings them a sample or tells them what to look for. All the sudden these guys are getting busted left and right because they are taken by surprise.

JMHO but until the racing officials get serious and start handing out lifetime suspensions for the first offense when a horse is tested and found to be on these bad drugs, the drugging will never stop. When a trainer is suspended, they still race. Usually they just let their spouse take over as the trainer of the stable and its business as usual.
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Ashley Lynn
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2017-07-24 8:22 AM
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I wish the BFA would impose a drug testing law in the futurity world. I think it would be shocking at how many contenders would fall out of the ranks. I have no problem with bute, banimine, ace, lasix, etc. but you'd be surprised at the junk you'd see in SOME of those medicine boxes. It's especially heartbreaking to me with those babies. I realize some things are necessary for the comfort of the horse, but performance enhancing drugs have NO place in that industry IMO.
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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2017-07-24 7:39 PM
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Banning the horses and trainers and fining owners. That might work. If I were an owner and knew my 75000 two year old could be sidelined, I'd think twice about my trainer and what he was doing.

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uno-dos-tres!
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2017-07-24 10:54 PM
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PLEASE, Write letters to [email protected] we need the state to move quickly on the handout of reprimands. We will lose this industry at the cost of a few bad apples.  
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total performance
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2017-07-25 8:34 AM
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CanCan - 2017-07-24 7:39 PM Banning the horses and trainers and fining owners. That might work. If I were an owner and knew my 75000 two year old could be sidelined, I'd think twice about my trainer and what he was doing.

In Oklahoma they are suspending the horses for 60 days.  Owners are an entirely different story.  
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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2017-07-25 1:36 PM
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uno-dos-tres! - 2017-07-24 10:54 PM PLEASE, Write letters to [email protected] we need the state to move quickly on the handout of reprimands. We will lose this industry at the cost of a few bad apples.  

Yes we will, the owners who want to run clean are leaving and I can't say I blame them.  One of our past owners felt strongly enough about the problem he is now a state vet with the Texas racing commission.  

?The "clique" that has the positives in TX is in with some trainers in OK that have so far flown under the radar except for one positive for a migraine med out of the UK.  Despite the positive test, they got a judge to allow them to run in the Remmington futurity and they won it.  Same group has trainers running in LA and NM, time to shut them down but I bet they won't especially when one is poised to win the Triple Crown of QH racing.

?I don't mean to wish bad vibes on anyone, some of these people are friends but it's time to clean this industry up before QH racing goes the way of the QH racing in Hialeah.   
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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2017-07-25 1:37 PM
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total performance - 2017-07-25 8:34 AM
CanCan - 2017-07-24 7:39 PM Banning the horses and trainers and fining owners. That might work. If I were an owner and knew my 75000 two year old could be sidelined, I'd think twice about my trainer and what he was doing.
In Oklahoma they are suspending the horses for 60 days.  Owners are an entirely different story.  

I didn't know that, thats a good start!  Will make owners think twice before picking a trainer because he has the "good stuff". 
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iloveequine40
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2017-07-25 7:27 PM
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Ashley Lynn - 2017-07-24 8:22 AM

I wish the BFA would impose a drug testing law in the futurity world. I think it would be shocking at how many contenders would fall out of the ranks. I have no problem with bute, banimine, ace, lasix, etc. but you'd be surprised at the junk you'd see in SOME of those medicine boxes. It's especially heartbreaking to me with those babies. I realize some things are necessary for the comfort of the horse, but performance enhancing drugs have NO place in that industry IMO.



As a fly on the wall I was floored when I heard some very well known, successful trainers talk so casually about the various things they give to "help"
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