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Location: Oklahoma | I seen these at the local feed store this morning. Has anyone used either of these? Results? Feedback? Thanks in advance. |
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| Also interested in this. Does anyone know how many pounds are in a bag of Purina Outlast and what is the cost of a bag of this is? |
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| There was another thread on this a bit ago, one person indicated she was not impressed with the Ultium gastric care and actually had a horse choke on it.
I just saw that my feed store has it in stock, but I think we will stick with the Ultium, love how everything looks and works on it. |
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Location: Oklahoma | it's a 40 pound bag and I think they told me $36 for the Outlast
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| OhMax - 2017-07-28 12:24 PM
There was another thread on this a bit ago, one person indicated she was not impressed with the Ultium gastric care and actually had a horse choke on it.
I just saw that my feed store has it in stock, but I think we will stick with the Ultium, love how everything looks and works on it.
Yes, it was my horse that choked on it. It's nothing like the original ultium as far as texture and smell.. very dry and had lots of beet pulp in it. I was not impressed at all. It's still sitting in my feed room, I'm going to dump it in the field behind us, maybe the deer will enjoy it. I haven't tried the outlast supplement itself but it was priced at $40 at my feed store, the gal said the recommendation was for a cup a day ... I believe it's a 40 lb bag. I'm just sticking with the platinum performance. I will add, I think purina puts out a great product... and my horse is very choke prone but he never had an issue with the original ultium.
Edited by want2chase3 2017-07-28 4:46 PM
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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | I'm currently doing a trial with the Outlast. |
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| My trainer has two of my horses on OUTLAST. She likes it. She gives to one horse at barrel races as a treat. Purina recommends this. |
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Location: MO | It is a 40# bag and ranges between $35-$40.
Purina suggests a cup (8 oz), twice a day and to use it as a 'treat' about half hour before a stressful situation, such as hauling, racing, etc.
You HAVE to think of the outlast as Tums for horses. It lasts approx 2 hours after given. I don't see it being used twice a day unless your horse stresses in a stall, etc...but again the affects only last about 2 hours so is it really necessary to use it twice a day? Not sure. I would def consider using it before a stressful sitation, sinilar to anything else you may use to calm nerves or stomachs (Equi-Sure comes to mind).
You may want to use it as a top dressing if you think your feed can cause more acid production or indigestion symptoms, just like if you get indigestion eating crap food. I love Fritos and white cheese dip, but also know how I feel after and have the tums bottle on stand by. LOL
I have a horse (not mine) get fed outlast about 15 or so minutes before saddling up and the horse basically quit trying to bite the owner when they cinched up. Said horse was also being treated for ulcers at the same time and is now on a maintenance dose of omeprazole. This did seem to help with symptons while going through the treatment. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I would like to hear your experience with the Outlast
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| I have only been feeding it for a month-ish because it is so new to the market. So far I like what I see. I have a mare that has a sensitive tummy from the pasture and her poop looks MUCH better than normal. Both horses seem to have good energy without being sugar crazy and have good endurance.
I also had a mare get REALLY sick. (8 days at the vet and came back looking like a rescue recovery in progress horse...) She has picked up weight AMAZING on the Gastric Care the last couple weeks. |
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Location: SE KS | I had a horse leased out, leasee "oiled" him said he had "bugs", would the Gastric Care help with this? |
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| I just bought a 40# bag of Outlast today for $32 so I'll update in a couple weeks when I get a chance to try it on my two boys.
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Location: SE KS | Any updates with how this feed is working for you??? |
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| I was curious how the Outlast "worked" The ingredient label I saw I thought it was mainly a calcium supplement??? Does the calcium just soothe the stomach and then I wondered why plain old alfalfa wouldn't work?
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| I have put both of mine on the Outlast and just put a few ounces in their feed in the evenings or in the mornings before we run. Will see how it goes by end of the bag. |
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| oranges - 2017-08-08 4:34 PM
I was curious how the Outlast "worked" The ingredient label I saw I thought it was mainly a calcium supplement??? Does the calcium just soothe the stomach and then I wondered why plain old alfalfa wouldn't work?
The magnesium oxide helps too. Download the pdf file for Outlast and there's a study done on there comparing the buffering capacity of Outlast to different things including alfalfa. I've been feeding it for about a week now but haven't been able to ride much due to rain. Have a barrel race Wednesday and usually my horse gets pretty loose stool so I'll feed it beforehand and see how it goes. |
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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | I'm starting to see what looks like some positive results from the Outlast. I currently am giving it to a 3 yo in pasture who is a hard keeper and paces the fence some.
She is more chilled and has gained weight. |
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| Bumping this back up. I just started it over the weekend. THey may have tweeked the formula since summer cause it is certainly NOT DRY like the person said above that had the choke issue. It has nearly the same consistency as the regular ultium and even MORE moisture than the regular. If you have ever seen Triple Crown senior, looks identical. My horses have been on regular ultium for long time and the ingredients are almost identical so I'm pretty much switching over and not really doing as slow of a change like I would with a new feed. I like that the gastric care has LESS fat, and couple hundred less calories per pound. |
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| I went through two bags of Outlast to give it the ol' college try but I wasn't super impressed. Didn't see much of a change as far as needing to treat for ulcers less and he still had his super runny stool that he gets at races and hauling. One of the things I've noticed is he'll grind his teeth as soon as I put the saddle on if he's having issues with ulcers, and after about a two weeks on the Outlast the teeth grinding was getting progressivly worse. I ended up taking him off of it, treating with omeprazole for 10 days and now he's on the MVP gastroplex. Hasn't ground his teeth since then but I also haven't been able to haul lately due to lack of time and snow. I'm headed to Arizona in the next couple weeks so I'll update after that if it helped at all. |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | Just started my 3 year old colt on the ultium gastric care. He's had some gut issues so we'll see how this turns out. got a screaming deal on it So i was like sure... why not. i'll update in 30 to 60 days |
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